Why Zion’s Knees Will Never Be Fixed

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Re: Why Zion’s Knees Will Never Be Fixed 

Post#61 » by Shy Gorgeous-Al » Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:34 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Nobody has posted the clips of how Zion walks? That is even more frightening than his knees.

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That's the issue. imbalance that makes his 290 pound body fall on one knee.

During the swing phase (of his walk) he hyperextends his knee because of lack of hip mobility during walking phase.The tightness either stems from tight glutes/ITB and/or tight adductors. This could all stem from a hip pathology like a labrum tear/instability or general imbalance. Either way, it's not about the weight really, it's the imbalance and whatever is happening there. What he does need to do is to lose weight until he fixes that to prevent further injury.
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Re: Why Zion’s Knees Will Never Be Fixed 

Post#62 » by RoyceDa59 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:35 pm

I am so sad by this. Just watched too much basketball and followed too many players for too many years...

ALL signs point to him having injury concerns from day one and never reaching his full potential. I hope I'm wrong.
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Re: Why Zion’s Knees Will Never Be Fixed 

Post#63 » by Yoshun » Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:38 pm

His left (back) leg appears to be behind the other and facing at a different angle. I'd like to see a picture of both feet together and facing forward.
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Re: Why Zion’s Knees Will Never Be Fixed 

Post#64 » by mixerball » Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:00 pm

doesnt harden have somewhat similar situation
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Re: Why Zion’s Knees Will Never Be Fixed 

Post#65 » by Lalouie » Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:51 pm

Memgrizz0 wrote:https://www.jordanthrilla.com/post/anonymous-doctor-explains-why-zion-williamson-knee-soreness-issue-can-t-be-fixed

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In the photo above, you see a picture from Zion's rookie photo shoot. If you look closely at his knees you realize he is extremely knock kneed. This means his knees point inward at a concave angle, almost like a slight L shape.


What this does is put extreme pressure on the MCL region of the inside of his knee. It also causes the outside LCL region of his knee to bump against each other, every time he jumps and lands, since the knee is folding inward. His knee structure causes his knee joint to become the extreme pressure point on all his jumping and landing movements, a quick recipe for knee soreness. This may be the reason why he is battling knee soreness only after light minutes in a few preseason games.


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Lebron James has the ideal knee structure. He is slightly bow legged, yet still has a straight line structure on the outside of his knee. This type of knee structure balances forces well, taking pressure off the joint itself. This is why Lebron James has never had knee issues. As you can see, Zion's knee structure is drastically different. His knees are bending in, which makes his knee joint become the place on his leg that takes the brunt of all force when he lands from jumping or running.


Pelicans can make him lose weight, but it still wouldn't fix the underlying problem. Zion Williamson will likely have to battle severe knee soreness as long as he is in the NBA. You can't really blame him for it either, because the issue is likely the natural knock knee structure of his knees.


i never believed in two things in sports, knocked-knees and duck feet.
lebron has duck feet.

the first thing that struck me is, why hadn't anyone else noticed this? were they willing to overlook it? since zion was injured at duke, then why wasn't a red flag thrown?

the second is, i started looking for other pics of zion because there's something not right here about this pelican photo. well, i found a couple, hardly any though, of zion in a team pic. in the one i found there is a SLIGHT knock-kneed. now, that is not to say well that's a relief. knock-knee is knock-knee. but let me point out that the medical diagram is nowhere near as severe as the real photo. the medical diagram looks like something you'd see in a 5'7, 240lb woman.

to wit: the anonymous medical guy has to get his eyes fixed. the photo of zion is largely illusory. if you follow the outline of the inner thigh on his LEFT LEG you will see it's not what the medical guy THINKS.

that is just to say that AT SOME POINT, the nba/duke medical team(and don't tell me duke has a mediocre medical school) should have noticed this
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Re: Why Zion’s Knees Will Never Be Fixed 

Post#66 » by Lalouie » Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:06 pm

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i dotted the outline of the leg so you can see the contour.

it is not as the dr imagines. he needs glasses. IN PARTICULAR the dr's random red line on the far left, zion's right outer thigh, is grossly poorly interpreted by the dr. the outline of that part of zion's leg DOES NOT cut in as imagined by the dr. it is straighter. furthermore, knock-kneed people's knees are literally on the verge of touching each other then the lower leg flairs out,,,,like in the diagram, which is not what zion's leg does. if anything neither the dr nor i nor anyone can see the contour of the leg underneath the jersey.

but i'll tell you who could've seen it...the doctors from duke and the pels.
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Re: 6 year #1 pick curse strikes again... 

Post#67 » by BallSacBounce » Wed Oct 23, 2019 12:25 am

macNcheese3 wrote:
cursedsportsfan wrote:How many Zion topics do we need...?


never too many

I'm thinking of starting one now. Tempting, isn't it?
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Re: Why Zion’s Knees Will Never Be Fixed 

Post#68 » by ThomYorke » Wed Oct 23, 2019 12:33 am

Professional sporting teams spend millions on their medical departments, yet an undiagonsed condition was discovered by a REALGM poster, via a photo?
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Re: Why Zion’s Knees Will Never Be Fixed 

Post#69 » by BallSacBounce » Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:11 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Nobody has posted the clips of how Zion walks? That is even more frightening than his knees.

Read on Twitter

Found an even more disturbing walk. RealGM's immediate help and diagnosis is imperative.
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Re: Why Zion’s Knees Will Never Be Fixed 

Post#70 » by Hindenburg » Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:12 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Nobody has posted the clips of how Zion walks? That is even more frightening than his knees.

Read on Twitter

He walks like a penguin :lol:
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Re: 6 year #1 pick curse strikes again... 

Post#71 » by TdotRap4Lyfe » Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:18 am

Pennebaker wrote:What's the curse again? Oden, Rose and Griffin were all drafted back to back to back and all had injury problems. Bennett and Wiggins were drafted back to back and both suck. Fultz was just drafted and he's terrible. #1 picks are cursed in general.

Basically if you aren't an all-star out of the gate, you suck and the pick was wasted.
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Re: Why Zion’s Knees Will Never Be Fixed 

Post#72 » by Maury2423 » Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:38 am

Genu valgum is likely due to muscle imbalance or if he's flat footed and doesn't have the appropriate inserts.

His is likely due to muscle balance going on at the hips.

I would be worried about their training staff not being more proactive about aligning his body properly and their lack of diet plan to help him lose weight.

He should be fine but the things I mentioned above need to happen
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Re: Why Zion’s Knees Will Never Be Fixed 

Post#73 » by Ericb5 » Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:45 am

As a Sixers fan I went through this stuff with Embiid and it was very frustrating.

Embiid was a punchline for damaged goods by uninformed fans. We knew that, despite having a very dangerous injury, that he was not destined to medical failure.

It was touch and go at times, but he pulled through.

Zion has a knee injury right now, but that doesn’t mean anything about his future.

I hope and expect that it all works out for him because he is a great kid and is great for basketball.


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Re: Why Zion’s Knees Will Never Be Fixed 

Post#74 » by SkyHookFTW » Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:48 am

This reminds me of the issues with RG3 in the NFL. I recall a doctor talking about RG3’s knees and how he walked/ran being a severe injury risk. Well, he injured a knee and has been nowhere near the same player that he was before the injury.
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Re: Why Zion’s Knees Will Never Be Fixed 

Post#75 » by mudsak » Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:53 am

This has to be one of the funniest threads I've ever seen... wtf?
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Re: Why Zion’s Knees Will Never Be Fixed 

Post#76 » by blueNorange » Wed Oct 23, 2019 5:14 am

this the same thing with kristaps fyi.
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Re: Why Zion’s Knees Will Never Be Fixed 

Post#77 » by blueNorange » Wed Oct 23, 2019 5:21 am

GhostOfChicago wrote:I'll admit, I've never seen anything like this.

this dude predicted kristaps' knee would injure for the same exact reason, months before it even happened based off kristaps lifting weights.

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Re: Why Zion’s Knees Will Never Be Fixed 

Post#78 » by blueNorange » Wed Oct 23, 2019 5:41 am

Darth Celtic wrote:yes, i feel the guy using gettyimage photos to let us know of future medical concerns over the doctors prior to and after the draft that evaluated him and never red flagged him for injury concerns.

that's because it's nothing that can be red flagged as it's just the way his body is.

when he lands on his feet, his knees bend inward vs outward. just like how some are pigeon toed.

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Re: Why Zion’s Knees Will Never Be Fixed 

Post#79 » by levon » Wed Oct 23, 2019 6:07 am

Myth wrote:I honestly have no idea how LeBron even walks.
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Re: Why Zion’s Knees Will Never Be Fixed 

Post#80 » by mcmokken » Wed Oct 23, 2019 7:36 am

Have the same knock knee issue myself and tore my meniscus on two separate occasions playing basketball back in high school. Wish him the best of luck.

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