NBA TV Viewership Down: Warriors Dominance to Blame

[ThunderBolt]

why go thru the apple tv app then? why not just stream from nba.com?

when i stream league pass thru nba.com it runs more smoothly than anything else i stream.

I assume he wants to view it on a tv with the relative ease of an app.

then stream and mirrorcast? and doesn't nba.com have an app?

I’m talking about using the nba app for Apple TV and Roku so I don’t have to watch it on my tablet. The apps are poorly designed and freeze over WiFi. I can plug one device into the modem but whichever one is on WiFi constantly freezes. It’s not my internet because this is the only streaming tv app that does it. I don’t mind paying the subscription but it’s unwatchable in my bedroom.

[slamilcarBarca]

the NBA basically begged me to cancel league pass after being a customer for 10 years. every year they gutted features and redid the whole UX. when I first bought it, you could open 4 games at a time, pause, rewind, etc. at any point. the last year I had it, a couple seasons ago, it was one game at a time with no ability to rewind. meaning if you started watching late you couldn't watch from the start and catch up by skipping commercials.

they also added forced ads that played over the video so you couldn't skip them, like this is fckin free youtube and not a premium subscription service that costs $200. it was insulting. they robbed me for several years.

with the use of those streams and tweaking i set it up to mimic those same features LP once had... on those streams...[/quote]

hmmm . . . i don't know if they've corrected the areas in your complaint (i rarely watch live; recorded games have no commercials and you can always pause, rewind etc). i don't know about the 4 games at a time split screen as i've never known about/tried that as a feature.

i agree there should be no adds. i pay for a premium tennis channel and there are no adds. i imagine if they forced me to sit thru adds i'd be pretty pissed. especially if they laid it over the content i am paying for.

actually thats why i dumped hulu - you can't fast forward thru commercials on a live sports recording. what the flip is the point of that?

[trending]

if kawhi stayed with the raptors viewship in cali would've been up.
are the clippers invisible or something ?

[slamilcarBarca]

I assume he wants to view it on a tv with the relative ease of an app.

then stream and mirrorcast? and doesn't nba.com have an app?

I’m talking about using the nba app for Apple TV and Roku so I don’t have to watch it on my tablet. The apps are poorly designed and freeze over WiFi. I can plug one device into the modem but whichever one is on WiFi constantly freezes. It’s not my internet because this is the only streaming tv app that does it. I don’t mind paying the subscription but it’s unwatchable in my bedroom.

so it goes wifi to tv and then the app?. and the stream also freezes on other devices? or is it tv app specific?

if i understand correctly you have problems only with one specific app and only on your tv?

mainly wondering because i'm planning out a sports cave in my detached garage and want to do it wirelessly.

[Scott Hall]

NFL ratings have gone up for 2 or 3 consecutive seasons now and NHL ratings have gone up for 4 consecutive years. When they talk about ratings its not just cable ratings, they include streaming (legal) numbers in this as well.

Let's face it with NHL ratings there was only one way to go but up lol...

Heard NFL ratings were up since they plummeted a few years ago but is it substantially up?

Also what's the point of legal streaming? lol

whats the point of legal streaming?

maybe the principle that if you want something that someone else is selling you pay for it?

do you stand outside people's house and watch tv thru their window?

what else do you steal?

I haven't bought a CD in 20 years and never bought anything off Itunes

[slamilcarBarca]

Let's face it with NHL ratings there was only one way to go but up lol...

Heard NFL ratings were up since they plummeted a few years ago but is it substantially up?

Also what's the point of legal streaming? lol

whats the point of legal streaming?

maybe the principle that if you want something that someone else is selling you pay for it?

do you stand outside people's house and watch tv thru their window?

what else do you steal?

I haven't bought a CD in 20 years and never bought anything off Itunes

well you're just a digital john dillinger, huh?

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

are the clippers invisible or something ?

It's the same market, they split fans.

That and east coast fans don't watch 10:30 starts.

[Scott Hall]

whats the point of legal streaming?

maybe the principle that if you want something that someone else is selling you pay for it?

do you stand outside people's house and watch tv thru their window?

what else do you steal?

I haven't bought a CD in 20 years and never bought anything off Itunes

well you're just a digital john dillinger, huh?

Since we're going old school was it illegal to record music off the radio with a blank cassette and play
it on a walkman or in your car?

[Cactus Jack]

whats the point of legal streaming?

maybe the principle that if you want something that someone else is selling you pay for it?

do you stand outside people's house and watch tv thru their window?

what else do you steal?

I haven't bought a CD in 20 years and never bought anything off Itunes

Neighbors WiFi.

I think the last CD I bought was in the early 2000's lol. Why would anyone pay for iTunes?

[bondom34]

Most I've enjoyed a season in years, though only Sixers games are on local TV.

[LivingLegend]

NFL/Monday night football is American "culture". Its not going away. And its on local channels.

I live in the bay area. I'm about 15 mins driving distance from Oracle Arena (back when the Warriors were good and played there)... and on my local TV stations, I cannot watch Warrior games. Netflix/Hulu has made it pointless for a lot of people to pay for TV cable.. and when Game of Thrones was on, Comcast had a promotion which gave HBO for free.

I believe this Viewership issue is due to technology changes coupled with the inaccessibility of NBA games.

Problem is cable/internet providers have caught up to this and apps like YoutubeTV/Sling/HuluTV are not a means for saving much, if any money over just having a cable subscription.

At least where Im at, standalone Spectrum 100mbps is around $70 per month. A YoutubeTV/Hulu monthly subscription is $55 per month. That comes out to be $125/$135 per month after all of the fees and taxes just to 'cut the cord'. I signed up with them and got internet + 2 digital boxes with all of the sports channels you want for $130 per month.

When you factor in the crazily inflated cost of standalone internet, cable cutting rarely saves you any money from just getting normal cable boxes. Plus you have to deal with stream delay and be 30 sec - 1 min behind the live action so if your looking at your phone during a game you are screwed with spoliers.

The other thing I noticed is a lot of these streaming services dont have NFLN which leaves you in the dark for Thursday Night games and NFL specific content which sucks.

Or you live in a place like where I live where the only internet you can get is 6 mbps and with a data cap. So by the end of the month if you stream the quality is extremely poor and you end up with a 200+ dollar internet bill. I tried the cutting cable thing, Im back with DirectTv now.

Right, rolling with a cord cutting streaming service only makes sense to me if your able to get good internet for around $40/$50 per month--which I have yet to see anyone able to. I also cant get past the stream delay thing. Unless boxes become obsolete I dont think I will ever be able to make the switch.

[clyde21]

We all knew it was going to be bad for the league long term when Kd joined the Warriors.

lol you do know KD isn't on the Warriors this year right?

what happened, thought a more 'competitive' league would lead to more people watching and higher ratings? not working out so well for ya huh?

[Tiny ball]

I think the league passes for the major sports are all too expensive in comparison to how many games you actually end up watching.

I paid for 25 years or so done with that. Lived very rural or out of area Totally so had no choice if I wanted to watch Celtics Basketball.

[clyde21]

but now that the Warriors are gone and the league is more competitive more people are gonna watch?

right? right? amirite?

Great point. I wonder if anyone is actually gonna try to argue that point.

History has shown us that dominant teams are good for the league. The NBA's popularity didn't decrease after the Celtics won 11 titles in 13 years. The NBA's popularity didn't decrease with the dominance of the Lakers and Celtics during the 1980s. The NBA's popularity also didn't decrease when the Bulls won six titles in eight years.

Taking all of that into account, why would the NBA be "ruined" by the Warriors winning three titles in five years? There wasn't even a three peat, yet there are some people who act like they broke the league lol.

bunch of whiners with no sense of reality or logic really.

[Triples333]

Problem is cable/internet providers have caught up to this and apps like YoutubeTV/Sling/HuluTV are not a means for saving much, if any money over just having a cable subscription.

At least where Im at, standalone Spectrum 100mbps is around $70 per month. A YoutubeTV/Hulu monthly subscription is $55 per month. That comes out to be $125/$135 per month after all of the fees and taxes just to 'cut the cord'. I signed up with them and got internet + 2 digital boxes with all of the sports channels you want for $130 per month.

When you factor in the crazily inflated cost of standalone internet, cable cutting rarely saves you any money from just getting normal cable boxes. Plus you have to deal with stream delay and be 30 sec - 1 min behind the live action so if your looking at your phone during a game you are screwed with spoliers.

The other thing I noticed is a lot of these streaming services dont have NFLN which leaves you in the dark for Thursday Night games and NFL specific content which sucks.

Or you live in a place like where I live where the only internet you can get is 6 mbps and with a data cap. So by the end of the month if you stream the quality is extremely poor and you end up with a 200+ dollar internet bill. I tried the cutting cable thing, Im back with DirectTv now.

Right, rolling with a cord cutting streaming service only makes sense to me if your able to get good internet for around $40/$50 per month--which I have yet to see anyone able to. I also cant get past the stream delay thing. Unless boxes become obsolete I dont think I will ever be able to make the switch.

Interesting.

I'm in a mountain town and have highspeed internet for $65 (can stream essentially as many HD streams as need be. Regularly have 4-5 going if I'm home and have bets going), Netflix ($12), ESPN+/Disney/Hulu bundle for $12, along with Amazon Prime (would have it anyway) and I'm all set for under $100. Plus I have a FireTV 4k (not pricey) that has apps like Pluto TV which is just free cable TV.
There's no delay anymore on any HD streams that I would theoretically use for sports, and they've become 100% reliable.

[Kabaum]

Product is fine. The NBA and local sports need to find a better way to stream. Pretty sure they have no way to account for the viewers that are using steams from online. It isnt the easiest for me to watch the Kings on TV because they suck but I can always find a way online. Blaming the Warriors is a joke and sounds easier to just point fingers then look at the bigger picture.

[Tiny ball]

but now that the Warriors are gone and the league is more competitive more people are gonna watch?

right? right? amirite?

Players threatening fans. bad basketball players making 100 million bucks it gets old. I could not imagine being a fan of some of these teams. There is really no hope for so many teams.

[Duke4life831]

Or you live in a place like where I live where the only internet you can get is 6 mbps and with a data cap. So by the end of the month if you stream the quality is extremely poor and you end up with a 200+ dollar internet bill. I tried the cutting cable thing, Im back with DirectTv now.

Right, rolling with a cord cutting streaming service only makes sense to me if your able to get good internet for around $40/$50 per month--which I have yet to see anyone able to. I also cant get past the stream delay thing. Unless boxes become obsolete I dont think I will ever be able to make the switch.

Interesting.

I'm in a mountain town and have highspeed internet for $65 (can stream essentially as many HD streams as need be. Regularly have 4-5 going if I'm home and have bets going), Netflix ($12), ESPN+/Disney/Hulu bundle for $12, along with Amazon Prime (would have it anyway) and I'm all set for under $100. Plus I have a FireTV 4k (not pricey) that has apps like Pluto TV which is just free cable TV.
There's no delay anymore on any HD streams that I would theoretically use for sports, and they've become 100% reliable.

Im out on the California coast (Monterey) and all I can get is 6 mbps and that's just what they advertise (currently mid day Im at 2.34 mbps haha). Maybe one day I can catch up to y'all fancy future folk haha.

[Brofessor24]

but now that the Warriors are gone and the league is more competitive more people are gonna watch?

right? right? amirite?

Players threatening fans. bad basketball players making 100 million bucks it gets old. I could not imagine being a fan of some of these teams. There is really no hope for so many teams.

Players threatening fans?

What are you talking about?

[Tiny ball]

Or you live in a place like where I live where the only internet you can get is 6 mbps and with a data cap. So by the end of the month if you stream the quality is extremely poor and you end up with a 200+ dollar internet bill. I tried the cutting cable thing, Im back with DirectTv now.

Right, rolling with a cord cutting streaming service only makes sense to me if your able to get good internet for around $40/$50 per month--which I have yet to see anyone able to. I also cant get past the stream delay thing. Unless boxes become obsolete I dont think I will ever be able to make the switch.

Interesting.

I'm in a mountain town and have highspeed internet for $65 (can stream essentially as many HD streams as need be. Regularly have 4-5 going if I'm home and have bets going), Netflix ($12), ESPN+/Disney/Hulu bundle for $12, along with Amazon Prime (would have it anyway) and I'm all set for under $100. Plus I have a FireTV 4k (not pricey) that has apps like Pluto TV which is just free cable TV.
There's no delay anymore on any HD streams that I would theoretically use for sports, and they've become 100% reliable.

Don't think any younger person will be paying lots to watch tv. Those days might just be over.