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Another solid player who had his career cut short cause of injuries.
Lin definitely helped break barriers for Asian PG's and I'm sure we'll see one better than him in the league soon.
Lin definitely helped break barriers for Asian PG's and I'm sure we'll see one better than him in the league soon.
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You were apart of history in multiple ways. Now go overseas and make that gwap.
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I don't know why he isn't even on a minimum contract on a team, he's not a superstar but he's a solid backup pg in this league.
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He and Isaiah Thomas are all the All-NBA "beg for a job when you are washed" team.
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JN61 wrote:KnicksGadfly wrote:iLLmatic860 wrote:Melo basically just said Lin wasnt worth a big contract
He wasnt wrong
He wasn’t but bet you Melo never called out anyone else in his career regarding his contract. Just the Asian guy who got a lot more love in NYC than Melo ever got. Also Melo wasn’t worth any of the love or money NYC gave him.
Not sure if Knicks fans can afford saying that. Since Melo Knicks have been irrelevant and by looks of it that trend will continue after this year.
Lol by the looks of what?
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kuclas wrote:Jeremy Lin had ruptured patellar injury 3-4 years ago. He was playing well before that injury. That’s the problem. He has a big injury history. Not many players return to play well after the patellar injury. And that’s in lin case. I don’t know why he’s so whiny. He made a lot of money for an undrafted free agent. He has a ring. Toronto gave him a chance as a buyout during their title run. He played minutes down the stretch of the regular season for them. Big minutes. So really didn’t have much left. Thus why he wasn’t in rotation in the playoffs for them.
Lots of nba players flame out by age 30. Lin is just another player. Bigger “stars”. Gilbert arenas, starbury.
The real facts is he tweaked his back during the bubble this year in the g league. Another minor injury. Teams just don’t need him. Maybe if he were a 3 point shooting specialists. Or a big a team could use as a 11/12 guy off the bench. But nba teams have other players available.
Seems to me as if he’s playing victim. The nba gave him lots of contracts. He’s made millions. Go to China where he can continue to make millions like Marbury.
i think prior to his injury, Lin was definitely underappreciated at times, and definitely got the raw end of the deal many times
..so can understand why he feels this way now....
that said, i think he can still be a good end of the bench player,
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13th Man wrote:Lin got screwed this year, too much political crap in the NBA. Best of luck to him.
Publicly saying that he got called coronavirus on the court by players probably did he in, which is unfortunate. But at least he stayed true to himself
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Seriously...on what possible grounds could you posters be claiming Lin wasn't called up because he's asian? Sounds like a bunch of virtue signalers trying to broadcast how "woke" you are. Give me a break. He was given his chances in the same NBA that some of you are trying to imply is racist. Throughout his time in the league, Lin's game was at best good, not great. His assists, even as a starter, were meager. His 3 pt shot was below avg. for guards and got worse as he aged. His defense was never "good" but it too got worse over time. And, his biggest detraction was that he simply got injured and older. Teams didn't want to invest in a broken down, no-defense, limited playmaking guard with a poor shot. News flash...teams do that every year, to players of every race, color, persuasion. Like the NFL, the NBA is Not For Long...there's always someone new with potential that teams are more interested in investing their time and money in.
Lin is a great guy, with a great story and a great education. He'll have lots of opportunities when he decides to hang em up, either surrounding basketball, or outside of it. Either way, he should be grateful for having a had an improbable career...one that very few players will ever experience.
Lin is a great guy, with a great story and a great education. He'll have lots of opportunities when he decides to hang em up, either surrounding basketball, or outside of it. Either way, he should be grateful for having a had an improbable career...one that very few players will ever experience.
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ropjhk wrote:BallinBug wrote:Raptors_Dynasty wrote:As an Asian Canadian I salute him for giving us a role model to look up to
We're all human. I really don't understand why people feel the need to look for same race role models.
It gives people confidence that race doesn't have to prevent one from achieving a certain position in life.
I mean, Lin or not, your odds of making the NBA are about one in 10+ million. As an Asian, it's probably 10 times lower than that. Sure, if this guy was a doctor or something, maybe it would make sense, but seeing Lin in the league really shouldn't give your average person any confidence of making it themselves.
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BallinBug wrote:ropjhk wrote:BallinBug wrote:
We're all human. I really don't understand why people feel the need to look for same race role models.
It gives people confidence that race doesn't have to prevent one from achieving a certain position in life.
I mean, Lin or not, your odds of making the NBA are about one in 10+ million. As an Asian, it's probably 10 times lower than that. Sure, if this guy was a doctor or something, maybe it would make sense, but seeing Lin in the league really shouldn't give your average person any confidence of making it themselves.
Yeah why should Asian kids dream about becoming an NBA player? We should just stick to becoming a doctor, lawyer, or accountant since we're 10x less likely to succeed! Positive Asian representation in the media is totally meaningless since we're all just human!
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That's some freaking real talk.
sikma42 wrote:Weird thing about Lin is he was a uber atheltic pg with marginal basketball iq. But he got treated like a smart pg with low athletism for a long time.
Overall, I think his career was defined by his lack of mental toughness. He had the talent to do much better...but he ended up being basically Asian Ramon Sessions
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slicedbread2 wrote:KnicksGadfly wrote:iLLmatic860 wrote:Melo basically just said Lin wasnt worth a big contract
He wasnt wrong
He wasn’t but bet you Melo never called out anyone else in his career regarding his contract. Just the Asian guy who got a lot more love in NYC than Melo ever got. Also Melo wasn’t worth any of the love or money NYC gave him.
It's actually funny in the end that Lin managed to get a ring and $60M out of it all while Carmelo still doesn't have a ring and has become what he thought he was too good to be: a bench player.
Lins championship ring is equivalent to Tmacs ring
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BallinBug wrote:ropjhk wrote:BallinBug wrote:
We're all human. I really don't understand why people feel the need to look for same race role models.
It gives people confidence that race doesn't have to prevent one from achieving a certain position in life.
I mean, Lin or not, your odds of making the NBA are about one in 10+ million. As an Asian, it's probably 10 times lower than that. Sure, if this guy was a doctor or something, maybe it would make sense, but seeing Lin in the league really shouldn't give your average person any confidence of making it themselves.
NBA players are not meant to inspire average people to become ball players. Not sure why you would even steer the conversation that way. Sure, some people may be inspired by characteristics such as work ethic or perseverance, but that inspiration doesn't need to come from someone of the same race and it doesn't need to come from an athlete.
That's not the type of inspiration I had in mind when I made my earlier post. I'm talking about seeing someone help break a race barrier and how that could inspire people of the same race who have aspirations to achieve the same goal.
As the first Asian American to make it to the NBA Jeremy Lin can be an inspiration to other Asian Americans who have a chance to pursue an NBA career. It's the same reason why Barrack Obama can be an inspiration to minorities who have aspirations of becoming president of the USA.
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Reflexx wrote:That's some freaking real talk.sikma42 wrote:Weird thing about Lin is he was a uber atheltic pg with marginal basketball iq. But he got treated like a smart pg with low athletism for a long time.
Overall, I think his career was defined by his lack of mental toughness. He had the talent to do much better...but he ended up being basically Asian Ramon Sessions
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If it were not for his mental toughness, he would probably have given up a long time ago... I think he is a mentally tough guy... but he does have some of those elite Asian kids syndrome which over analyze things at time... take themselves too seriously to a fault, could not loosen up... but he is very strong minded
I agree Lin’s strength is his quickness and body strength... he has a little above average bb IQ as a pg, not elite but not bad either... what he is really lack of is the next level skills, particular his dribbling skills at times were embarrassing... never really developed a steady shooting, again over analyzed his own shooting skills, changed forms from time to time...
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poultryfan wrote:BallinBug wrote:ropjhk wrote:
It gives people confidence that race doesn't have to prevent one from achieving a certain position in life.
I mean, Lin or not, your odds of making the NBA are about one in 10+ million. As an Asian, it's probably 10 times lower than that. Sure, if this guy was a doctor or something, maybe it would make sense, but seeing Lin in the league really shouldn't give your average person any confidence of making it themselves.
Yeah why should Asian kids dream about becoming an NBA player? We should just stick to becoming a doctor, lawyer, or accountant since we're 10x less likely to succeed! Positive Asian representation in the media is totally meaningless since we're all just human!
I mean if you like having pipe dreams that will come crashing down when reality hits you, sure, dream about being an NBA player. The best dreams are the ones that go up in flames right?
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If that's it for him, congrats on surpassing expectations and having a nice career. Linsanity was a phenomena to say the least, but a 9 year career along with $65+ mil in career earnings is nothing to scoff at. Looking forward to seeing what he does next.
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BallinBug wrote:poultryfan wrote:BallinBug wrote:
I mean, Lin or not, your odds of making the NBA are about one in 10+ million. As an Asian, it's probably 10 times lower than that. Sure, if this guy was a doctor or something, maybe it would make sense, but seeing Lin in the league really shouldn't give your average person any confidence of making it themselves.
Yeah why should Asian kids dream about becoming an NBA player? We should just stick to becoming a doctor, lawyer, or accountant since we're 10x less likely to succeed! Positive Asian representation in the media is totally meaningless since we're all just human!
I mean if you like having pipe dreams that will come crashing down when reality hits you, sure, dream about being an NBA player. The best dreams are the ones that go up in flames right?
You're totally right! Asian kids should only have totally attainable and realistic dreams like being a lawyer or a doctor since there's so many of us in those professions. By the same token, black people shouldn't dream about becoming president of the US since there's been like what, one black US president since the beginning of time? Right?
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ropjhk wrote:BallinBug wrote:ropjhk wrote:
It gives people confidence that race doesn't have to prevent one from achieving a certain position in life.
I mean, Lin or not, your odds of making the NBA are about one in 10+ million. As an Asian, it's probably 10 times lower than that. Sure, if this guy was a doctor or something, maybe it would make sense, but seeing Lin in the league really shouldn't give your average person any confidence of making it themselves.
NBA players are not meant to inspire average people to become ball players. Not sure why you would even steer the conversation that way. Sure, some people may be inspired by characteristics such as work ethic or perseverance, but that inspiration doesn't need to come from someone of the same race and it doesn't need to come from an athlete.
That's not the type of inspiration I had in mind when I made my earlier post. I'm talking about seeing someone help break a race barrier and how that could inspire people of the same race who have aspirations to achieve the same goal.
As the first Asian American to make it to the NBA Jeremy Lin can be an inspiration to other Asian Americans who have a chance to pursue an NBA career. It's the same reason why Barrack Obama can be an inspiration to minorities who have aspirations of becoming president of the USA.
I'm confused. First you say this:
NBA players are not meant to inspire average people to become ball players. Not sure why you would even steer the conversation that way. Sure, some people may be inspired by characteristics such as work ethic or perseverance, but that inspiration doesn't need to come from someone of the same race and it doesn't need to come from an athlete.
But then you say this (below), which does imply that the inspiration is seeing someone of your own race achieve your own dream - which in this case is to be a Ball player or a President.
"I'm talking about seeing someone help break a race barrier and how that could inspire people of the same race who have aspirations to achieve the same goal."
Both of those examples are less likely to happen than winning the lotto, so to me nursing those kind of dreams in kids sets them up for disappointment.
Your very first post said this:
It gives people confidence that race doesn't have to prevent one from achieving a certain position in life.
But that's not true. We've seen that for decades. Minorities have broken through in various walks of life - sports, entertainment, politics, etc. However that does not mean that race won't prevent someone else (or even most others) from achieving the same success, it just means that person was able to overcome it with a combination of determination and and a lot of luck.