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Re: Shams Bomb!: Grizzlies Trading Jonas Valunciunas + Nos. 17 & 51 Picks to NOLA for Steven Adams, Eric Bledsoe, Draft 

Post#61 » by ayyayyron » Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:51 pm

Zombiesonics wrote:Memphis has been drafting pretty well recently, i'll give them some benefit of the doubt. maybe they have their eye on a specific player. three players who might be gone but really fit: sengun, wagner, and kuminga. I dont see a need for a sg when you have brooks and bane already.

Kuminga won't fall past 8, Kings love Wagner. Sengun might be available
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Post#62 » by Bologna Smasher » Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:51 pm

I think this trade works out for both teams. Each team gets what they want. Memphis must be really high on someone, though.

I'm sad to see Valanciunas getting bounced around again. Hopefully he can help take the Pelicans to the next stage.
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Re: Shams Bomb!: Grizzlies Trading Jonas Valunciunas + Nos. 17 & 51 Picks to Pelicans for Steven Adams 

Post#63 » by Domejandro » Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:52 pm

Onus wrote:
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Onus wrote:Who does Memphis want at 10? Moody?


that's not bad if he's still there at 10 but rumor is Giddey?

Why would memphis want Giddey? They have Ja ...

He is 6'8", they could probably coexist.
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Post#64 » by Bruin » Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:52 pm

This trade might not look great now but in a year or 2 it could be looked back as a major W if the guy they take at 10 turns out to be good
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Post#65 » by kg01 » Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:52 pm

I mean, this is David Griffin we're talking about. Surely he'll find a way to lose this deal. :)
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Post#66 » by John Murdoch » Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:53 pm

Bologna Smasher wrote:I think this trade works out for both teams. Each team gets what they want. Memphis must be really high on someone, though.

I'm sad to see Valanciunas getting bounced around again. Hopefully he can help take the Pelicans to the next stage.


Spacing will be once again an issue for Zion now , nobody falls for jonas pump fake 3 ball
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Post#67 » by Mos_Heat » Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:53 pm

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Mos_Heat wrote:I don't know why people like it so much for the Pelicans, Griffin just wasting assets left and right for nothing


Clearing capspace, they can go after Lowry or retain Ball. They need to surround Zion with better players. JV>Adams.

Very meh justification to me
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Re: Shams Bomb!: Grizzlies Trading Jonas Valunciunas + Nos. 17 & 51 Picks to Pelicans for Steven Adams 

Post#68 » by JimmyPlopper » Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:53 pm

Jellybeans wrote:Drugs legal in Memphis? :lol:


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Post#70 » by Onus » Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:55 pm

Domejandro wrote:
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that's not bad if he's still there at 10 but rumor is Giddey?

Why would memphis want Giddey? They have Ja ...

He is 6'8", they could probably coexist.

Could they? having 2 non shooters that both need the ball in their hands to maximize their impact? I think Sengun is more likely but they have JJJ and Tillman and now Adams.
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Post#71 » by Nuntius » Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:55 pm

Mamba Mentality wrote:What the **** is Memphis doing?


Memphis is trading up in a draft that appears to be very good and they're also picking up a future 1st. I think that this is a great move for them.
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Post#72 » by clyde21 » Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:55 pm

Domejandro wrote:
Onus wrote:
Marcus wrote:
that's not bad if he's still there at 10 but rumor is Giddey?

Why would memphis want Giddey? They have Ja ...

He is 6'8", they could probably coexist.


not unless Giddey develops some spot up shooting. i like Giddey, but he's much more of an on-ball guy right now, and is not an off-ball slasher type at all.
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Post#73 » by JimmyPlopper » Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:57 pm

How close does this get Pelicans to being able to afford Lowry
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Re: Shams Bomb!: Grizzlies Trading Jonas Valunciunas 

Post#74 » by clyde21 » Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:57 pm

Nuntius wrote:
Mamba Mentality wrote:What the **** is Memphis doing?


Memphis is trading up in a draft that appears to be very good and they're also picking up a future 1st. I think that this is a great move for them.


yea, I think they are ready to move forward with JJJ @ center, they also have Clarke and Tillman, might even take another big @ 10 if they really like someone (Garuba? Sengun?)

but yea, this doesn't really matter for Memphis at all, and they get an extra 1st next yr as well most likely.
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Post#75 » by sca » Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:58 pm

What a stupid trade for the Grizzlies. :nonono:

Significantly downgrading at the center position while giving up your second best player? Check.

Taking on two horrible contracts? Check.

Unless the guy they’re picking at 10 turns into a perrenial all-star, it makes absolutely zero sense.
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Post#76 » by illuminati666 » Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:58 pm

Fantastic trade for the Pelicans. I wasn't expecting them to be able to offload both of those guys this easily. Only move 7 spots back and get back the most underrated big man in the league. Griffin may have redeemed himself here.

Don't get this from Memphis' end unless they really like a player that may be available at 10. I don't see a player like that here but meh who knows. Tough giving up JV, he was their second best player. Maybe they just want to be a bit worse and collect more assets try and get another all star level player. If JV wasn't a part of their future plans I guess its not as bad as ppl are making it out to be, but def a head scratcher. They need to hit on 10 now. Maybe Jalen Johnson or Sengun, both high risk high upside players.
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Post#77 » by canada_dry » Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:58 pm

Marcus wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:I think this is a bad trade for both teams.


JV do something different next to Zion than what Adams was doing?
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Post#78 » by Marcus » Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:59 pm

Onus wrote:
Marcus wrote:
Onus wrote:Who does Memphis want at 10? Moody?


that's not bad if he's still there at 10 but rumor is Giddey?

Why would memphis want Giddey? They have Ja ...


im with you. i got nothing....still trying to understand this whole thing.
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Post#79 » by jwise44 » Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:00 pm

Mos_Heat wrote:
Jadoogar wrote:
Mos_Heat wrote:I don't know why people like it so much for the Pelicans, Griffin just wasting assets left and right for nothing


Clearing capspace, they can go after Lowry or retain Ball. They need to surround Zion with better players. JV>Adams.

Very meh justification to me

Gaining cap space to chase big targets and getting a much better player (and better fit) by giving up picks that they have plenty of is not a good justification?
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Post#80 » by Marcus » Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:02 pm

canada_dry wrote:
Marcus wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:I think this is a bad trade for both teams.


JV do something different next to Zion than what Adams was doing?
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one of the main complaints about fit was Steven clogging paint for Zion JV more of a spacer now?
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