OT: Tampa Bay fan is given Brady's 600th TD ball, gives it back a few minutes later

durden_tyler · Post #61 » by **durden_tyler** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:34 am

Secret Lover14 wrote:Does Tom Brady deserve this in a basketball forum?

GOATS gets free passes everywhere, much like Jordan is mentioned in any forum.

Joshyjess · Post #62 » by **Joshyjess** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:20 am

NyKnicks1714 wrote:Brady just said he's giving the guy 1 bitcoin, so in fairness things are looking a little better for him than what was offered originally.

Yeah, I just read that. Apparently the bitcoin is worth about 63,000 dollars - not too bad.
Brady also said that Byron (the fan) should have held onto the ball longer, and that by giving it back when he did, he lost all of his leverage. :lol:

Peja Stojakovic · Post #63 » by **Peja Stojakovic** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:22 am

Joshyjess wrote:
NyKnicks1714 wrote:Brady just said he's giving the guy 1 bitcoin, so in fairness things are looking a little better for him than what was offered originally.

Yeah, I just read that. Apparently the bitcoin is worth about 63,000 dollars - not too bad.
Brady also said that Byron (the fan) should have held onto the ball longer, and that by giving it back when he did, he lost all of his leverage.

lol what a douche

Tor_Raps · Post #64 » by **Tor_Raps** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:27 am

Peja Stojakovic wrote:
Joshyjess wrote:
NyKnicks1714 wrote:Brady just said he's giving the guy 1 bitcoin, so in fairness things are looking a little better for him than what was offered originally.

Yeah, I just read that. Apparently the bitcoin is worth about 63,000 dollars - not too bad.
Brady also said that Byron (the fan) should have held onto the ball longer, and that by giving it back when he did, he lost all of his leverage.

lol what a douche

If he's getting season tickets for this and next year, plus all those signed things... it's really not too bad of a consolation prize. He could easily put those items up for auction and maybe get up to 100,000 in value.

Golden Knight · Post #65 » by **Golden Knight** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:39 am

Tor_Raps wrote:If he's getting season tickets for this and next year, plus all those signed things... it's really not too bad of a consolation prize. He could easily put those items up for auction and maybe get up to 100,000 in value.

Yeah that's not really bad plus he came out of it as the "good guy" even though some may be clowning him for "losing" all that value.

I'd imagine more and more stuff will be given to him too as this progresses, possibly being allowed to hang out in the locker room or in the bench for some games...

rand · Post #66 » by **rand** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:53 am

Tor_Raps wrote:
Peja Stojakovic wrote:
Joshyjess wrote:Yeah, I just read that. Apparently the bitcoin is worth about 63,000 dollars - not too bad.
Brady also said that Byron (the fan) should have held onto the ball longer, and that by giving it back when he did, he lost all of his leverage.

lol what a douche

If he's getting season tickets for this and next year, plus all those signed things... it's really not too bad of a consolation prize. He could easily put those items up for auction and maybe get up to 100,000 in value.

If he manages to get that $100k value then he may have only lost around $400k value. Assuming Brady was going to buy the ball either directly from him or from whichever merch would have bought the ball from the fan, this regular guy just gave a megamillionaire a gift of a few hundred thousand dollars. It's pretty disgusting actually.

Monky15 · Post #67 » by **Monky15** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:57 am

What's sad is that the guy who got the ball and gave it back probably has more love for the team than Brady ever will but will be forgotten about in 2 weeks.

righterwriter · Post #68 » by **righterwriter** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:01 am

The guy got handed a free gift. Weird how people think he's entitled to hundreds of thousands of dollars of stuff now.

rand · Post #69 » by **rand** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:02 am

Golden Knight wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:If he's getting season tickets for this and next year, plus all those signed things... it's really not too bad of a consolation prize. He could easily put those items up for auction and maybe get up to 100,000 in value.

Yeah that's not really bad plus he came out of it as the "good guy" even though some may be clowning him for "losing" all that value.

I'd imagine more and more stuff will be given to him too as this progresses, possibly being allowed to hang out in the locker room or in the bench for some games...

I don't think he comes out of it looking like the "good guy" at all, not if you know that when he was asked to return the ball he said no twice and then caved to pressure. He comes out of it looking like a weak-willed chump who decided to sell a $500k winning lotto ticket to a megamillionaire for $100k. In case anyone couldn't figure that last part out themselves, Brady -- the guy to whom our man sold the winning lotto ticket for 20 cents on the dollar -- made sure to educate them himself.

Our guy's problem was having regular human emotions while dealing with predators who don't give any sh*ts about him. Even this gift package he's receiving is not a reward for being a good guy, it's so the general public doesn't view Brady and the Bucs as big bad guys for robbing the poor little guy.

rand · Post #70 » by **rand** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:05 am

righterwriter wrote:The guy got handed a free gift. Weird how people think he's entitled to hundreds of thousands of dollars of stuff now.

Assuming the ball was actually his property, he was entitled to hundreds of thousands of dollars just so long as he didn't shoot himself in the foot by throwing his windfall away (which he did)

NyKnicks1714 · Post #71 » by **NyKnicks1714** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:10 am

righterwriter wrote:The guy got handed a free gift. Weird how people think he's entitled to hundreds of thousands of dollars of stuff now.

The ball was his property once it was given to him.

righterwriter · Post #72 » by **righterwriter** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 10:01 am

rand wrote:
righterwriter wrote:The guy got handed a free gift. Weird how people think he's entitled to hundreds of thousands of dollars of stuff now.

Assuming the ball was actually his property, he was entitled to hundreds of thousands of dollars just so long as he didn't shoot himself in the foot by throwing his windfall away (which he did)

I'm not disputing it was his property. I just find it kind of gross that people are saying he should be bilking the team and players out of as much money as possible. It's a strange reaction to what was a kind gesture by Mike Evans initially.

rand · Post #73 » by **rand** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 10:45 am

righterwriter wrote:
rand wrote:
righterwriter wrote:The guy got handed a free gift. Weird how people think he's entitled to hundreds of thousands of dollars of stuff now.

Assuming the ball was actually his property, he was entitled to hundreds of thousands of dollars just so long as he didn't shoot himself in the foot by throwing his windfall away (which he did)

I'm not disputing it was his property. I just find it kind of gross that people are saying he should be bilking the team and players out of as much money as possible. It's a strange reaction to what was a kind gesture by Mike Evans initially.

I understand, but this is life-changing money for most people. And although Evans did a nice thing to mistakenly give you the ball, he's not your family and neither is Brady. They're not even your friends. They're extremely rich people (Brady especially) who aren't going to look after you or your family if severe financial adversity strikes in the future.

By returning the ball you're getting suckered on non-reciprocity too. Brady told the world what he would have done in the fan's shoes: "He should've held it to get as much leverage as possible." If the situation were reversed and it was Brady in the stands with you wanting the ball, he would play hard ball to get as much from you (or a 3rd party) as he can.

basketballRob · Post #74 » by **basketballRob** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 10:53 am

The ball probably doubled in value after all this hoopla.

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God Squad · Post #75 » by **God Squad** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 10:55 am

Honestly it's all subjective. If he's a huge Buccaneers fan then season tickets and potentially meeting the team and whatever perks probably means more to him. But personally I'm taking the ball and selling it to the highest bidder. Either selling it back to the team/Brady or another Bucs super fan.

500K (minimum) is no joke for regular people who don't have, or haven't seen that type of money. Especially when it came from no work/risk on your part.

stillgotgame · Post #76 » by **stillgotgame** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:58 pm

Wow, this thread cracks me up. Sounds like a bunch of people who's goal is to live off handouts.

holdenwait · Post #77 » by **holdenwait** » Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:36 am

happened to see how this worked out in the end for the guy who gave the ball back on Colbert's show. Brady gave him some season tickets , merch and bitcoin (not sure the "amount" lol).

NyKnicks1714 · Post #78 » by **NyKnicks1714** » Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:49 am

holdenwait wrote:happened to see how this worked out in the end for the guy who gave the ball back on Colbert's show. Brady gave him some season tickets , merch and bitcoin (not sure the "amount" lol).

It worked out pretty well for him in the end, even if he still left a good amount of money on the table: A bitcoin from Brady, $30k from Gronk, a bunch of autographed merch, and 2 seasons worth of season tickets.

Richard4444 · Post #79 » by **Richard4444** » Thu Oct 28, 2021 6:43 am

I can not understand Americans.

1) Why value so much a ball from a so arbitrary statistical accomplishment. I bet the value of the 601st or 599th ball will be much lower.

2) How can you prove that the ball is the special one? In Brazil, the man who was given the ball probably would sell it to about 60 people (logically, he would buy identical balls and sell these balls as if it was the special one). Every buyer would not entirely trust the seller and the price would not pass U$500.

JimmyPlopper · Post #80 » by **JimmyPlopper** » Thu Oct 28, 2021 7:03 am

Richard4444 wrote:I can not understand Americans.

1) Why value so much a ball from a so arbitrary statistical accomplishment. I bet the value of the 601st or 599th ball will be much lower.

2) How can you prove that the ball is the special one? In Brazil, the man who was given the ball probably would sell it to about 60 people (logically, he would buy identical balls and sell these balls as if it was the special one). Every buyer would not entirely trust the seller and the price would not pass U$500.

Only been to Brazil once and it was the trip of a lifetime. If you agree to adopt my family, we can move into your house.