Zeitgeister wrote:FNQ wrote:Zeitgeister wrote:
Who are we talking about here? That's the complete opposite of the Wiggins I remember.
You guys had him handling a lot, and being a top scoring option.. he is brutal at both of those things
Defensively he's been great here, but our system is a part of it. That said, was told he was lazy, not a NBA rotation player, etc etc... that wasnt true. He was just greatly miscast
We didn't always want him as a top scoring option, he just didn't know how to do anything else but shoot the ball when it met his hands, often to mediocre effect. Also, the concerns about laziness go back to high school, scouts were worried about it, and for legitimate reasons, because he's often played lazy. We're talking about a guy who is 6'8, great physical tools, that has had several years grabbing less than 3 defensive rebounds a game. There were many games where the TImberwolves were losing (shocker) and Wiggins would just disappear for quarters, you hardly knew he was playing. Glen Taylor made Wiggins give him a handshake and promise that he'd try hard to continue to improve, that's not something that typically happens unless there are concerns of laziness.
As for not being an NBA rotation player, I've never heard anyone say that, that's a bit ridiculous. I've often thought he was better suited to a bench role but if he can be more of a roleplayer in the starting lineup that is good too.
I can imagine. I remember seeing him there and thinking he was godawful, but it was just explained to me that he handled too much and couldnt play defense. But the defense thing, I think that's a systemic problem in MIN, because he's fit right in here in a role that's pretty tough (same one weve given to Barnes, Iguodala, Durant, and even gave to Oubre until he proved he couldnt handle it - it requires BBIQ). Offensively though I dont see any potential to develop. His shot form is consistent, but he shoots flat and generally inaccurate. He picks the worst times to ISO. And while he's pretty good at driving, that seems to be a last resort for him more than first option.
Basically, I think we're seeing his peak and its pretty average. But the defense is definitely legit and havent seen much of, if any, of the laziness. Dray might help with that, or it just might be that his body language sucks. He covered the most ground of any Ws player last year per minute (save GP2) and always took the toughest assignment. Considering the trade cost, I'd be estatic if we just swapped him for DLo straight up
