MVP chants for Steph Curry tonight are louder than the MVP chants for Kevin Durant @ Barclays

[K3nny Pow3rs]

the man who would not have a ring without Curry?

The man who came into Curry's team, said "I'm the alpha", and took those two FMVPs.

Curry coulda had a chance at cracking top 15 players all time with a couple FMVPs. Instead, he went the easy route:

https://clutchpoints.com/warriors-news-bob-myers-credits-steph-currys-presence-for-swaying-kevin-durant/

Dude literally sat in the free agent meeting, "checked his ego" essentially saying "You can come and be the alpha, I'll be the Pippen", hence how KD won two FMVPs and bounced.

The same reason that Curry "checked his ego" at the door is the same reason Curry will always be better than Durant. He's selfless and humble, and team success is more important to him than hero ball. So he's fine playing off ball and never yells at teammates to pass it to him, and thats why he got a ring before Durant and will always raise his teams to levels above Durant. Durant is an incredible and legendary scorer, but Curry is more of a winner. Just look at the quality of teammates both have had; Curry has done more with less than Durant has had.

And when Curry lost to the Cavs after winning 73 games. Failed miserably in Game 7 especially. Not a winner in the NBA Finals, certainly not on KD's level. When it matters most, I rely on KD, not Curry.

[WarriorGM]

the man who would not have a ring without Curry?

The man who came into Curry's team, said "I'm the alpha", and took those two FMVPs.

Curry coulda had a chance at cracking top 15 players all time with a couple FMVPs. Instead, he went the easy route:

https://clutchpoints.com/warriors-news-bob-myers-credits-steph-currys-presence-for-swaying-kevin-durant/

Dude literally sat in the free agent meeting, "checked his ego" essentially saying "You can come and be the alpha, I'll be the Pippen", hence how KD won two FMVPs and bounced.

The same reason that Curry "checked his ego" at the door is the same reason Curry will always be better than Durant. He's selfless and humble, and team success is more important to him than hero ball. So he's fine playing off ball and never yells at teammates to pass it to him, and thats why he got a ring before Durant and will always raise his teams to levels above Durant. Durant is an incredible and legendary scorer, but Curry is more of a winner. Just look at the quality of teammates both have had; Curry has done more with less than Durant has had.

I feel for KD when people make comments like this. KD can be selfless and humble—at least I think he genuinely tries to be. If at times he comes off a little fake in that department it's because he's human and it must be infuriating being constantly compared to Curry after being set up as the guy to follow LeBron.

[Raonak]

Who wouldn't want to chant MVP for Curry? Hes the Kobe of the modern era

[HollowEarth]

I didnt know there was this many Warrior fans in NY

Read on Twitter

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At this stage in his career Curry is one of those players who has a cult like following. He’ll attract large groups of fans where ever

Absolutely. My friends and I were checking prices on tickets and to see Denver was just $30 ($4 for nosebleeds) but Golden State was $200 and the Lakers were up around $300. We're not going to cheer for Curry (or Jokic or Lebron) but people are definitely showing up to see him

[mcmurphy]

You can also be the best scorer of all time but that doesn't mean to be a winner... a winner must also be a leader, a player for whom his teammates are willing to dive for a turnover because they know he is what he would do... that they would shoot fearlessly because they know their leader doesn't care about his percentage but only about winning... this will always separate KD from winners like Bird, Magic, MJ or Curry. Period.

[nfmos]

The man who came into Curry's team, said "I'm the alpha", and took those two FMVPs.

Curry coulda had a chance at cracking top 15 players all time with a couple FMVPs. Instead, he went the easy route:

https://clutchpoints.com/warriors-news-bob-myers-credits-steph-currys-presence-for-swaying-kevin-durant/

Dude literally sat in the free agent meeting, "checked his ego" essentially saying "You can come and be the alpha, I'll be the Pippen", hence how KD won two FMVPs and bounced.

The same reason that Curry "checked his ego" at the door is the same reason Curry will always be better than Durant. He's selfless and humble, and team success is more important to him than hero ball. So he's fine playing off ball and never yells at teammates to pass it to him, and thats why he got a ring before Durant and will always raise his teams to levels above Durant. Durant is an incredible and legendary scorer, but Curry is more of a winner. Just look at the quality of teammates both have had; Curry has done more with less than Durant has had.

And when Curry lost to the Cavs after winning 73 games. Failed miserably in Game 7 especially. Not a winner in the NBA Finals, certainly not on KD's level. When it matters most, I rely on KD, not Curry.

When was KD a winner without Steph again? Do we want to go down the line of Durants failures in playoff games too?

[Cubbies2120]

The same reason that Curry "checked his ego" at the door is the same reason Curry will always be better than Durant. He's selfless and humble, and team success is more important to him than hero ball. So he's fine playing off ball and never yells at teammates to pass it to him, and thats why he got a ring before Durant and will always raise his teams to levels above Durant. Durant is an incredible and legendary scorer, but Curry is more of a winner. Just look at the quality of teammates both have had; Curry has done more with less than Durant has had.

And when Curry lost to the Cavs after winning 73 games. Failed miserably in Game 7 especially. Not a winner in the NBA Finals, certainly not on KD's level. When it matters most, I rely on KD, not Curry.

When was KD a winner without Steph again? Do we want to go down the line of Durants failures in playoff games too?

Without Durant, Curry is 1-2 in the Finals. Zero FMVPs. Hardly a "winner" when comparing him to other winners of the last 20 years (Kobe, Duncan, Shaq, LeBron).

That's Rip Hamilton level of "winner". Key cog on a TEAM championship, but incapable of carrying team to a win by himself.

When KD joined, those extra 2 rings that Durant (alpha, FMVP) helped Curry win are the only reasons that Curry can be mentioned as a true "winner". No KD = 1-2 in the Finals, with KD 2-0, bringing him to a positive win % in the Finals.

[dhsilv2]

I didnt know there was this many Warrior fans in NY

At this stage in his career Curry is one of those players who has a cult like following. He’ll attract large groups of fans where ever

He's reached the point of just being a legit absolute SUPERSTAR, not NBA superstar but a legit superstar. This ain't a cult.

[michaelm]

Your stats prove Curry rarely produces his best on the big stage.
Those stats are well below his best fg% and 3pt%, and below his best scoring.
Not that we needed to see those stats, we saw the Finals.
And that's why he never wins Finals MVP.

Why would one expect to see a player's best numbers in the finals when one assumes the competition is tougher? Because players raise their game? But that would suggest they weren't playing their best at other times wouldn't it?

Something about Curry that is underappreciated is that his level of play is consistently great throughout an entire season. Other players have dogged it in the regular season and just turn on for the playoffs. Why should that be considered better? In fact it's worse.

That's one reason the FMVP is an inferior award. But then you add all the other junk related to it and one wonders why anyone even brings it up. Bill Russell never won it. Magic received it instead of Kareem because Kareem wasn't available to receive it and the network didn't like that. It's the award for who the media wants the public to believe is the best player.

We did see the finals but it appears some people cannot process what they see unless the media tell them what it is.

But there are others like those chanting MVP tonight who know what their eyes are telling them.

Because KD produces the best shooting of his life when he plays NBA Finals, even when he lost to Miami, he averaged 30.6 points, .548 field, .394, all above his career averages, and the fg% is higher than he's ever shot in a season.

Overall in NBA Finals, KD is averaging 30.3 points, .546 field, .448 trey, 7.7 rebounds, 4.5 assists in 15 games.
Overall in the regular season, KD is averaging 27.1 points, .496 field, .385 trey, 7.1 rebounds, 4.2 assists.

KD is the yardstick, since this conversation was comparing the two....
And if you win MVP and never win Finals MVP (and after multiple attempts), you are clearly less suited to the NBA Finals than say a 2-time Finals MVP.

Let’s see.

Curry and his team actually beat KD and his team in the WCF before one of the losing finals series, and I defy Jordan, KD or anyone else to win a finals series with the cast Curry was left with in the 2019 finals, not that this was any concern of the Raptors, GSW paid the price for putting together a top heavy team.

A salient point is that it took KD and Curry together to make 2017 GSW the best team of all time or a close second in that debate, no Curry team without KD has reached those heights, but nor has any KD team without Curry.

It is also vaguely possible some of the Curry and NBA finals story remains to be written, not that playing excellently in 3 title winning teams and making five finals series on a row is anything at which to sneer, sneer though you may be attempting to do.

[ShootersShoot]

And when Curry lost to the Cavs after winning 73 games. Failed miserably in Game 7 especially. Not a winner in the NBA Finals, certainly not on KD's level. When it matters most, I rely on KD, not Curry.

When was KD a winner without Steph again? Do we want to go down the line of Durants failures in playoff games too?

Without Durant, Curry is 1-2 in the Finals. Zero FMVPs. Hardly a "winner" when comparing him to other winners of the last 20 years (Kobe, Duncan, Shaq, LeBron).

That's Rip Hamilton level of "winner". Key cog on a TEAM championship, but incapable of carrying team to a win by himself.

When KD joined, those extra 2 rings that Durant (alpha, FMVP) helped Curry win are the only reasons that Curry can be mentioned as a true "winner". No KD = 1-2 in the Finals, with KD 2-0, bringing him to a positive win % in the Finals.

Without steph, kd is 0-1 in the finals with 0 fmvps. Even if you value kd more than steph, which is reasonable, comparing steph to rip hamilton is such a low iq take, you should be embarrassed quite frankly.

[JN61]

New York fans were always very casual and band wagon so I don't think anyone is surprised. TheY probably think warriors are the local team if I am being honest.

[Zvaart]

Fans see what we all see: a once-in-history type talent.

when they're looking at james harden amiright?

Only if KD or Steph are behind him

[Zvaart]

Well New Yorkers aren't fond of snakes.

No, they are worst: they are fond of the bloody Knicks

[Henry Turner]

I don't know if it's so much Warriors fans as it is Steph fans.

Or casuals cheering for great play from steph.

[Zvaart]

The same reason that Curry "checked his ego" at the door is the same reason Curry will always be better than Durant. He's selfless and humble, and team success is more important to him than hero ball. So he's fine playing off ball and never yells at teammates to pass it to him, and thats why he got a ring before Durant and will always raise his teams to levels above Durant. Durant is an incredible and legendary scorer, but Curry is more of a winner. Just look at the quality of teammates both have had; Curry has done more with less than Durant has had.

And when Curry lost to the Cavs after winning 73 games. Failed miserably in Game 7 especially. Not a winner in the NBA Finals, certainly not on KD's level. When it matters most, I rely on KD, not Curry.

When was KD a winner without Steph again? Do we want to go down the line of Durants failures in playoff games too?

Shut tf up guys

They are both amazing players, no deed to measure dicks here.

[Zvaart]

I don't know if it's so much Warriors fans as it is Steph fans.

Or casuals cheering for great play from steph.

Neah, is not that, the crowd was cheering every dubs play, not only curry's great ones

[hisairness]

How embarrassing, you never heard "MVP" chants for an opposing player at the mecca, MSG.

[righterwriter]

Finals MVP is what its all about, and Curry rarely produces his best on the big stage.
Finals separates the men from the boys, and KD is the man in this relationship.

Even though it looks like most people rightly ignored this, I'll post Curry's Finals stats for the 10,000th time on RealGM to show what kind of producer he is on the big stage.

Throughout his Finals career, Curry has averaged 26.5 points, 6.2 assists and 5.7 rebounds per game on 42.0 percent shooting from the field and 38.5 percent from 3-point range.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/steph-curry-finals-stats

That ppg average would place him 10th all time, above players like Kobe, Dirk, Dwayne Wade, Larry Bird, Kareem, Duncan, Kawhi, etc.

You might want to reconsider next time you write "rarely produces on the big stage" as the stats prove otherwise.

Your stats prove Curry rarely produces his best on the big stage.
Those stats are well below his best fg% and 3pt%, and below his best scoring.
Not that we needed to see those stats, we saw the Finals.
And that's why he never wins Finals MVP.

Finals MVP is what its all about, and Curry rarely produces his best on the big stage.
Finals separates the men from the boys, and KD is the man in this relationship.

Wonderful to see such progressive, healthy framing of masculinity in this thread!

Progressive is the opposite to masculine, and the most healthy man is masculine.
Boys of course are less masculine and accomplish less than men.
In the Finals, Curry is the boy, and KD is the man.

Tell you what, let's all agree to your statement that Curry's shooting percentages in the Finals went down compared to his regular season averages. You can't argue against stats,right?

Let's also agree that Curry's overall Finals stats would rank him in probably the top-10 all-time of Finals performers. Because you can't argue against stats, right?

Sound good?

[Jadoogar]

But seriously, this has to be KD’s worst nightmare. He was upset Steph got more love and respect in GS so he left…and now Steph comes into town and steals his thunder.

Particularly because KD is having such an incredible season. But KD was always going to be less popular after the Warriors debacle.

[NYPiston]

But seriously, this has to be KD’s worst nightmare. He was upset Steph got more love and respect in GS so he left…and now Steph comes into town and steals his thunder.

I see what you did there?