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Re: Kyrie is a Snake in the Grass 

Post#61 » by sp6r=underrated » Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:19 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:Ya Im not sure "snake in the grass" is the term Id use for Kyrie. There is really nothing secretive or deceptive with Kyrie. He is pretty forthcoming in the what he thinks. Hell I think a lot of people think some of Kyrie's biggest issues are that he talks too much.

So ya you can say you disagree with Kyrie, think he's narcissistic, and an idiot. But snake in the grass wouldnt be something Id use to describe him. Probably one of the last ways I would describe him.


Yup, Kyrie is pretty much the inverse of a snake in the grass. He is uniformly direct with his intentions.

Kyrie's problem is he is quintessential autodidactic. Self-education is helpful but individuals who engage solely in self-education are likely to engage in irrational behavior when they rely on the wrong texts. That is what happened with the vaccine and much of his other actions.
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Re: Kyrie is a Snake in the Grass 

Post#62 » by BBgun » Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:21 pm

Snake is the wrong choice Imo. I'd go with donkey because he's a stubborn ass.
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Re: Kyrie is a Snake in the Grass 

Post#63 » by KGtabake » Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:23 pm

Bill Bradley wrote:He’s a lot smarter and stronger in his convictions than 99% of this board, seemingly.


99% of this board didn't believe that the earth was flat.
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Re: Kyrie is a Snake in the Grass 

Post#64 » by nikster » Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:53 pm

KGtabake wrote:
Bill Bradley wrote:He’s a lot smarter and stronger in his convictions than 99% of this board, seemingly.


99% of this board didn't believe that the earth was flat.

I dont know why strong conviction is supposed to be a good thing anyway if your ideas are ****. The worst of conspiracy theorists etc are full of conviction
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Post#65 » by nikster » Sun Nov 21, 2021 10:00 pm

sp6r=underrated wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:Ya Im not sure "snake in the grass" is the term Id use for Kyrie. There is really nothing secretive or deceptive with Kyrie. He is pretty forthcoming in the what he thinks. Hell I think a lot of people think some of Kyrie's biggest issues are that he talks too much.

So ya you can say you disagree with Kyrie, think he's narcissistic, and an idiot. But snake in the grass wouldnt be something Id use to describe him. Probably one of the last ways I would describe him.


Yup, Kyrie is pretty much the inverse of a snake in the grass. He is uniformly direct with his intentions.

Kyrie's problem is he is quintessential autodidactic. Self-education is helpful but individuals who engage solely in self-education are likely to engage in irrational behavior when they rely on the wrong texts. That is what happened with the vaccine and much of his other actions.

I dont think the texts matter, its a lack of critical thinking. He has an anti-conformist attitude which causes him to actively seek out info that fits this world view and disregard the rest. which is why flat earth and anti-vax stances are so attractive
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Post#66 » by sp6r=underrated » Sun Nov 21, 2021 10:07 pm

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sp6r=underrated wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:Ya Im not sure "snake in the grass" is the term Id use for Kyrie. There is really nothing secretive or deceptive with Kyrie. He is pretty forthcoming in the what he thinks. Hell I think a lot of people think some of Kyrie's biggest issues are that he talks too much.

So ya you can say you disagree with Kyrie, think he's narcissistic, and an idiot. But snake in the grass wouldnt be something Id use to describe him. Probably one of the last ways I would describe him.


Yup, Kyrie is pretty much the inverse of a snake in the grass. He is uniformly direct with his intentions.

Kyrie's problem is he is quintessential autodidactic. Self-education is helpful but individuals who engage solely in self-education are likely to engage in irrational behavior when they rely on the wrong texts. That is what happened with the vaccine and much of his other actions.

I dont think the texts matter, its a lack of critical thinking. He has an anti-conformist attitude which causes him to actively seek out info that fits this world view and disregard the rest. which is why flat earth and anti-vax stances are so attractive


You may be right. I read book years ago. It was about a police case in which the police just assumed the family was guilty despite all evidence to the contrary. It had a term that has always stayed with me: naive cynicism.

The police assumed that perfectly, normal people must have dark secrets. When in reality most perfectly, normal are just that.

Kyrie is naively cynical about the establishment. He assumes they are full of bull on all fronts which is just as naive as assuming they are perfectly honest.
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Re: Kyrie is a Snake in the Grass 

Post#67 » by Eric Bieniemy » Sun Nov 21, 2021 10:17 pm

sp6r=underrated wrote:
nikster wrote:
sp6r=underrated wrote:
Yup, Kyrie is pretty much the inverse of a snake in the grass. He is uniformly direct with his intentions.

Kyrie's problem is he is quintessential autodidactic. Self-education is helpful but individuals who engage solely in self-education are likely to engage in irrational behavior when they rely on the wrong texts. That is what happened with the vaccine and much of his other actions.

I dont think the texts matter, its a lack of critical thinking. He has an anti-conformist attitude which causes him to actively seek out info that fits this world view and disregard the rest. which is why flat earth and anti-vax stances are so attractive


You may be right. I read book years ago. It was about a police case in which the police just assumed the family was guilty despite all evidence to the contrary. It had a term that has always stayed with me: naive cynicism.

The police assumed that perfectly, normal people must have dark secrets. When in reality most perfectly, normal are just that.

Kyrie is naively cynical about the establishment. He assumes they are full of bull on all fronts which is just as naive as assuming they are perfectly honest.

Saying this in a time where distrust of mainstream media is at an all time high is ironic.

I agree with some of your points here. Like you, I belief that during these times a person is naive if they don't possess a certain level of cynicism.

Maybe the vax stuff is the exception, but, generally speaking, I teach my kids to not always belief what they hear, see, or read.

Your point is taken though. No one should belief all of anything.
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Re: Kyrie is a Snake in the Grass 

Post#68 » by Bill Bradley » Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:39 am

nikster wrote:
KGtabake wrote:
Bill Bradley wrote:He’s a lot smarter and stronger in his convictions than 99% of this board, seemingly.


99% of this board didn't believe that the earth was flat.

I dont know why strong conviction is supposed to be a good thing anyway if your ideas are ****. The worst of conspiracy theorists etc are full of conviction


Strong in his convictions meaning he stands for his rights regardless of the unfair pressures put on him. Like all these wuss posters saying he will give in and get vaccinated despite the fact that he strongly believes he should have a choice on what goes into his body. Basically I’m saying he’s not a sheep and a wimp like others are here.
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Post#69 » by rtiff68 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:09 am

Bill Bradley wrote:
nikster wrote:
KGtabake wrote:
99% of this board didn't believe that the earth was flat.

I dont know why strong conviction is supposed to be a good thing anyway if your ideas are ****. The worst of conspiracy theorists etc are full of conviction


Strong in his convictions meaning he stands for his rights regardless of the unfair pressures put on him. Like all these wuss posters saying he will give in and get vaccinated despite the fact that he strongly believes he should have a choice on what goes into his body. Basically I’m saying he’s not a sheep and a wimp like others are here.


Do you really think this is about his convictions or even the vaccine?

This is about attention.
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Post#70 » by KGtabake » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:40 am

Bill Bradley wrote:
nikster wrote:
KGtabake wrote:
99% of this board didn't believe that the earth was flat.

I dont know why strong conviction is supposed to be a good thing anyway if your ideas are ****. The worst of conspiracy theorists etc are full of conviction


Strong in his convictions meaning he stands for his rights regardless of the unfair pressures put on him. Like all these wuss posters saying he will give in and get vaccinated despite the fact that he strongly believes he should have a choice on what goes into his body. Basically I’m saying he’s not a sheep and a wimp like others are here.


The fans, the players, the coaches, the executives, the owners, the reporters and the game itself is tired with Kyrie.
There's always something. Today is the vaccine, yesterday it was something personal, the day before it was the flat earth, tomorrow it will be something about dinosaurs and aliens that don't allow the poor guy to ball.
Kyrie should retire. Right now. Find the things he loves to do elsewhere without the lights upon him. But he can't live without them...
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Post#71 » by art_tatum » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:43 am

Bill Bradley wrote:
nikster wrote:
KGtabake wrote:
99% of this board didn't believe that the earth was flat.

I dont know why strong conviction is supposed to be a good thing anyway if your ideas are ****. The worst of conspiracy theorists etc are full of conviction


Strong in his convictions meaning he stands for his rights regardless of the unfair pressures put on him. Like all these wuss posters saying he will give in and get vaccinated despite the fact that he strongly believes he should have a choice on what goes into his body. Basically I’m saying he’s not a sheep and a wimp like others are here.


I mean would you really commend someone for their conviction for being a racist? At a certain point the better/bigger thing to do is let go of your conviction and realize it's harmful/admit your wrongs. I.e. vaccine misinformation.
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Re: Kyrie is a Snake in the Grass 

Post#72 » by bullsnewdynasty » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:00 am

dautjazz wrote:
bullsnewdynasty wrote:Remember that the Nets were the team that sent him home.

He could be playing in most road games even without getting the injection.


Meh, he's the one refusing to get the jab to make a statement. He himself said it's a statement, that's he's actually not an anti-vaxxer. It's a state wide mandate, he's just being a fool as usual. Remember when he didn't want to go to the bubble saying the NBA shouldn't resume because of the BLM riots going on. He's always looking for an excuse to not play or I guess trying to seek attention one way or another. The team did the right thing by not half assing this, it's either play all games, or none. They really need to just trade him ASAP, I'm guessing at this point they are willing to wait to the trade deadline, as the offers have probably not been very good so far.


Popovich and Kerr get political all the time yet nobody ever calls them a distraction.

I guess it just depends whether you're on the media's side or not
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Post#73 » by ILOVEIT » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:08 am

Duke4life831 wrote:Ya Im not sure "snake in the grass" is the term Id use for Kyrie. There is really nothing secretive or deceptive with Kyrie. He is pretty forthcoming in the what he thinks. Hell I think a lot of people think some of Kyrie's biggest issues are that he talks too much.

So ya you can say you disagree with Kyrie, think he's narcissistic, and an idiot. But snake in the grass wouldnt be something Id use to describe him. Probably one of the last ways I would describe him.


What he thinks...at the moment...

But not what he commits to when he plans his big moves with his boys.

At this point I'm convinced he's recognized that he's either unable to continue his career or, after the Celtics failure, realizes he can't get it done and he's leaning on excuses to avoid revealing it on the floor.

Of course...that's kind of a flat earthy type conspiracy so.... :roll:
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Post#74 » by ILOVEIT » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:10 am

KGtabake wrote:
Bill Bradley wrote:
nikster wrote:I dont know why strong conviction is supposed to be a good thing anyway if your ideas are ****. The worst of conspiracy theorists etc are full of conviction


Strong in his convictions meaning he stands for his rights regardless of the unfair pressures put on him. Like all these wuss posters saying he will give in and get vaccinated despite the fact that he strongly believes he should have a choice on what goes into his body. Basically I’m saying he’s not a sheep and a wimp like others are here.


The fans, the players, the coaches, the executives, the owners, the reporters and the game itself is tired with Kyrie.
There's always something. Today is the vaccine, yesterday it was something personal, the day before it was the flat earth, tomorrow it will be something about dinosaurs and aliens that don't allow the poor guy to ball.
Kyrie should retire. Right now. Find the things he loves to do elsewhere without the lights upon him. But he can't live without them...


Times a MILLION.

He can take a seat next to Latrell Spreewell and some of the other infamous flakes. Bye bye.
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Re: Kyrie is a Snake in the Grass 

Post#75 » by Duke4life831 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:19 am

ILOVEIT wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:Ya Im not sure "snake in the grass" is the term Id use for Kyrie. There is really nothing secretive or deceptive with Kyrie. He is pretty forthcoming in the what he thinks. Hell I think a lot of people think some of Kyrie's biggest issues are that he talks too much.

So ya you can say you disagree with Kyrie, think he's narcissistic, and an idiot. But snake in the grass wouldnt be something Id use to describe him. Probably one of the last ways I would describe him.


What he thinks...at the moment...

But not what he commits to when he plans his big moves with his boys.

At this point I'm convinced he's recognized that he's either unable to continue his career or, after the Celtics failure, realizes he can't get it done and he's leaning on excuses to avoid revealing it on the floor.

Of course...that's kind of a flat earthy type conspiracy so.... :roll:


Again a snake in the grass is someone who is purposely going behind another's back and is deceiving. That clearly isn't Kyrie. Again you dont have to agree with him, you can think he is a narcissistic A hole and a flat out idiot. Doesnt make him a snake in the grass. That description isn't even close to describing Kyrie.

Also the bold is another thing I dont think anyone would honestly say about Kyrie. Kyrie has never lacked confidence on the court, this is the dude who first came into the NBA calling Kobe out to play him 1 on 1 in front everyone. Kyrie and lack of confidence with his basketball game is something no one would ever really say about him. If anything, the dude is too confident and too cocky with his ability on the court.

Sometimes the most obvious answer is the correct answer. The dude doesnt want to take the shot for whatever reason. He thinks he is being the voice of whoever by doing this. That is the most likely scenario on why he hasnt taken the shot. Its probably not because he has no confidence with his on court ability.
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Post#76 » by LightTheBeam » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:22 am

Hes more of a leading lion!

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Post#77 » by gavran » Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:08 am

Only if the grass is from a golf course.
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Post#78 » by God Squad » Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:16 am

You ain't woke enough to speak on Kyrie.
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Post#79 » by Bill Bradley » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:20 am

art_tatum wrote:
Bill Bradley wrote:
nikster wrote:I dont know why strong conviction is supposed to be a good thing anyway if your ideas are ****. The worst of conspiracy theorists etc are full of conviction


Strong in his convictions meaning he stands for his rights regardless of the unfair pressures put on him. Like all these wuss posters saying he will give in and get vaccinated despite the fact that he strongly believes he should have a choice on what goes into his body. Basically I’m saying he’s not a sheep and a wimp like others are here.


I mean would you really commend someone for their conviction for being a racist? At a certain point the better/bigger thing to do is let go of your conviction and realize it's harmful/admit your wrongs. I.e. vaccine misinformation.


He’s not wrong here. Especially as a relatively young pro athlete, he has no chance is dying from COVID. Much more likely to die of vaccine side effects. And yeah, mainstream news will not tell you this so I expect you believe that isn’t happening.
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Post#80 » by art_tatum » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:05 am

Bill Bradley wrote:
art_tatum wrote:
Bill Bradley wrote:
Strong in his convictions meaning he stands for his rights regardless of the unfair pressures put on him. Like all these wuss posters saying he will give in and get vaccinated despite the fact that he strongly believes he should have a choice on what goes into his body. Basically I’m saying he’s not a sheep and a wimp like others are here.


I mean would you really commend someone for their conviction for being a racist? At a certain point the better/bigger thing to do is let go of your conviction and realize it's harmful/admit your wrongs. I.e. vaccine misinformation.


He’s not wrong here. Especially as a relatively young pro athlete, he has no chance is dying from COVID. Much more likely to die of vaccine side effects. And yeah, mainstream news will not tell you this so I expect you believe that isn’t happening.


Ugh no lol provide the numbers that young healthy people are more likely to die from vaccine side effects than COVID. Cause I've seen them and it's not true. Side effects are pretty much from allergic reactions to components in the vaccine like antibiotics that are normal in all vaccines.
Also Healthy people taking the vaccine was not really about them, but about protecting others. It's always with the selfish logic.

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