Brandon Jennings: "It’s easier to be KD, Bron, and etc, You gone need a a lot of training trying be Steph Curry though"

[Soca]

ok 99.9999999% genetics then

You clearly have no idea how hard it is to revamp your shot. That takes a lot more than 10 percent of work with muscle memory and having retrain your brain when you've been shooting a certain way for so long.

Revamping your shot is harder the older you are. Most guys can do it pretty easily in highschool. I say this from experience, I've revamped my shot 3 times now, first in highschool, then twice after because of injuries that made it difficult to shoot like I used to. It's a lot of work, but it was pretty easy when I was in highschool. The other two times, there are more growing pains.

Clearly it wasn't that easy if you had to do it three different times.

[DCasey91]

There’s zero people like Curry that’s played NBA like this zero.

You have freaks all the time playing, size, body, skill whatever. But actually look at him.

He’s most underrated trait is he doesn’t stop moving. Some superstars/stars are anemic without the ball in hand. Said before there is literally zero factors involved to move around the court. None no excuse

How bad would Westbrook’s mind be in Curry’s body average to sub average player... now flip it undisputed GOAT. Wade that shoots like Reggie Miller? Broken.

Boxing/fighting have weight classes for a reason. Pound for Pound Steph is right up there with anyone ever.

[johanliebert]

I'm firmly convinced that a good part of Curry's ability is God-given. It's not all work ethic.

then you're ignorant. HIs father played pro basketball and passed down everything he learned from skilled trainers.

I get where BJ is coming from but i wish it was framed better. The NBA went from being an inner city game to now being dominated by the children of pro athletes/d1 players. It's a game of trainers/aau now making it about lbj/steph is just faulty reasoning.

[Danny1616]

I'm firmly convinced that a good part of Curry's ability is God-given. It's not all work ethic.

then you're ignorant. HIs father played pro basketball and passed down everything he learned from skilled trainers.

I get where BJ is coming from but i wish it was framed better. The NBA went from being an inner city game to now being dominated by the children of pro athletes/d1 players. It's a game of trainers/aau now making it about lbj/steph is just faulty reasoning.

So why is his brother Seth simply an NBA role player and not an MVP player like Steph?

Nobody is disputing Curry had a built-in advantages from a resources standpoint, but genetics and natural talent still played a big role.

[G35]

No, it's not any easier to be any of them. The amount of people who continue to argue that LeBron simple has the benefit of being big and strong is staggering. The problem isn't really disregarding his skill level, but ignoring the amount of work that goes into keeping his body in the shape it's in. If we were to oversimplify, what's the difference between putting in hours a day in the weight room and putting in hours a day on the court shooting jumpers? I don't care who the star in question is, there's nothing easy about it. It all takes a ton of hard work.

The same thing was said about Shaq.

I criticized Shaq in his earlier years because I thought he was bigger and stronger than everyone else. But then you see other bigs as big as Shaq who do not have nearly the agility, footwork or touch that Shaq had like:

Greg Ostertag
Kwame Brown
Nazr Mohammad
Bryant Reeves
Joe Klein


These guys are not even as big as Shaq and if you made them dribble more than two times they would turn the ball over. I was wrong about Shaq just being big and unskilled. Shaq was a uniquely skilled human.....

[Rakkasan]

This has to be one of the most ignorant posts I've read in a while.

[FrodoFraggins]

I mean yeah, KD and LeBron have better natural gifts to excel in the NBA.

[Blacksheep25]

I voted yes because we are talking about two of the biggest freaks ever in LeBron and Durant, but having a dad who gave you great shooting genetics, being raised in wealth and having access to elite coaching and immersed in the game your whole life is also a huge advantage.


I’m sure it was harder to become elite for Steph over the other two, but there are other guys who had a tougher road than Steph I’m sure. I’d guess It’s harder to become Isiah Thomas at 5’8 and be a multiple all star, or Lowry at 6’ and become a 6 time all star. Or a 6’1 Chris Paul and become an 11x all star and 4 time first team all NBA guy. All the little guys have to work harder as the world is full of guys their height. Some have become better defenders than Steph.

Steph is amazing, but I don’t know what he’d be if he was 5’8 or 6’. There is a huge difference between being a 6’3 guard and 6’1 guard even. He already has to be in constant movement to get his shot off. What would he be 3 inches shorter? He’d be great, but I don’t know if he’d be as great.

[Cavsfansince84]

Steph has a lot of natural ability that has helped him along the way. It's just that fans are too used to measuring such gifts in terms of height, speed and jumping ability. Its not a coincidence for instance that his dad is one of the best shooters of all time. There's a high degree of hand eye coordination and distance control that he inherited from him.

[Cavsfansince84]

I voted yes because we are talking about two of the biggest freaks ever in LeBron and Durant, but having a dad who gave you great shooting genetics, being raised in wealth and having access to elite coaching and immersed in the game your whole life is also a huge advantage.


I’m sure it was harder to become elite for Steph over the other two, but there are other guys who had a tougher road than Steph I’m sure. I’d guess It’s harder to become Isiah Thomas at 5’8 and be a multiple all star, or Lowry at 6’ and become a 6 time all star. Or a 6’1 Chris Paul and become an 11x all star and 4 time first team all NBA guy. All the little guys have to work harder as the world is full of guys their height. Some have become better defenders than Steph.

Steph is amazing, but I don’t know what he’d be if he was 5’8 or 6’. There is a huge difference between being a 6’3 guard and 6’1 guard even. He already has to be in constant movement to get his shot off. What would he be 3 inches shorter? He’d be great, but I don’t know if he’d be as great.

He'd still be as good or better than Dame imo.

[Clyde Frazier]

This weird debate, especially with the socioeconomic
implications is just stupid. These are all time great players with truly unique archetypes who are extremely committed to their profession. Attempting to argue who the average kid has a better chance of replicating is ludicrous.

[JN61]

I get where he is coming from but I am not sure it applies to KD. KD is a stick figure who couldn't bench what I can bench. His height and wingspan definitely helps him a lot but he is always an elite shooter and that is come from training and hard-work.

Shooting is 90% genetics 10% work...

Are you Brandon Jennings?

[og15]

You clearly have no idea how hard it is to revamp your shot. That takes a lot more than 10 percent of work with muscle memory and having retrain your brain when you've been shooting a certain way for so long.

Revamping your shot is harder the older you are. Most guys can do it pretty easily in highschool. I say this from experience, I've revamped my shot 3 times now, first in highschool, then twice after because of injuries that made it difficult to shoot like I used to. It's a lot of work, but it was pretty easy when I was in highschool. The other two times, there are more growing pains.

Clearly it wasn't that easy if you had to do it three different times.

Lol, you didn't read. Did you miss the because of injuries part?

The second time was because of an injury, couldn't shoot the same way because it was too painful. The third time was a few years later to go back again to the first shot I changed to. This was after I fully recovered from the pain due to some extended rest and rehab. Of course every shooter is tweaking little things along the way trying to always get just a little bit better, but that's a different process.

[YogurtProducer]

Dumbest **** i've heard in a while. Acting as if KD doesn't live and breath basketball everyday. To be that good takes countless hours put in everyday. Hate it when scrubs downplay greatness by acting as if it's all unexplained talent. Lebron and KD are that good because they put the work in.

The point being that if KD and Bron were 6’3 they’d be ordinary.

[Flash Falcon X]

I don't think it's so black and white.

Steph is unbelievable but it's hard to play like a guard at 7 feet like KD does, and hard to do the same with LeBron's build, too. Most guys if they had the build of KD and LeBron would try to be power forwards and centers instead of expanding their game to be more versatile.

[SweetTouch]

In order to be steph you need
to have a rich family
access to pro players training
Ability to give basketball your life


Shouldn’t be that difficult for young bloods trying to get out of the tough streets with no father figure and mothers working minimum wage

[mademan]

Dumbest **** i've heard in a while. Acting as if KD doesn't live and breath basketball everyday. To be that good takes countless hours put in everyday. Hate it when scrubs downplay greatness by acting as if it's all unexplained talent. Lebron and KD are that good because they put the work in.

The point being that if KD and Bron were 6’3 they’d be ordinary.

And if Steph didnt have other worldly hand eye coordination, he'd be ordinary too. I mean Steph's awesome, but people think genetics didnt play a huge role for him? Plenty of guys put up 500+ shots a day in the NBA. I'd imagine plenty of guys train shooting as much he does, and none of them are close to what he is.

He too is uniquely blessed

[KrAzY3]

Obviously it is true. Curry is far less physically gifted.

If any of us had the physical tools that KD or LeBron had we'd probably be NBA players. We probably wouldn't be great NBA players but we darn sure would be NBA players. Curry? If we had Curry's physical gifts we'd probably be playing pickup games at the YMCA.

[Haldi]

If hard work and training is all it took, you'd see lots of Steph Currys. For example, by all accounts Avery Johnson had an insane work ethic, and he wasn't in the same galaxy as a shooter. It's easy to look at freak athletes/specimens and see their gifts, but something like, say, hand-eye coordination doesn't register. Another example, I remember reading an anecdote about Steve Nash that he could pick up his golf clubs after not playing for extended periods and still hit in the low 70s. That's nuts. Many people play their entire lives and don't shoot that well, let alone with little to no practice. So while you obviously have to work your ass off to hone skills like his, it's always seemed pretty obvious that Steph is insanely gifted, to an extent we've never really seen before.

You will see more Stephen Curry soon in the future, lil kids will be growing up shooting threes. Jordan was a prime example of this, it will be the same with Curry.

This… along with basketball getting more and more popular worldwide, we will continue to see strides taken in the sport. Just like this class of players are generally better shooters, ball handlers and finishers than eras in the past, it will continue to go forward… only thing that would change that is if the sport died down in popularity. Most guards in past eras had little to no left at all. You can’t be a guard in the NBA today without a left. Mark Jackson, who was a great point guard never even attempted a left finish, and you would look at more and realize how much that alone has evolved, its not just shooting like everyone here says. The game has evolved a ton and will continue to. Weirdly, its also the only sport that the fans, ex players and media actively deny this to prop up the “golden” eras of the sport.

And Curry’s skills are 100% a result of his training. Its ALL reps and more reps… and then even more reps. I was a really good 3 point shooter and played up until college and I trained a ton, but compared to today’s players, it was a complete joke, maybe a 10th of the time they spent playing ball from ages 10 to college lets say.
And no I wasn’t born with good shooting genes or dribbling genes lol. The reason my hand eye coordination was so good was 100% a result of playing triple A baseball from a very young age, tons of basketball and a lot of football too. Now genetically, my 6’3 height surely helped but by NBA standard, at 6’3, you better be more skilled than the big guys, yes.

[Bum Adebayo]

I think the argument is correct, it's just the names that are wrong, curry is very talented with his handeye coordination. He should've used a guy like Jimmy Butler as a guy who doesn't really has anything that is elite at a genetic level compared to other players.