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azcatz11 wrote:dhsilv2 wrote:D.Brasco wrote:
17 games a year vs 82 has to be tantalizing for him as well.
Not sure the nike deals will be as impressive though.
Yes, the money would be there. Trust me.
Cavsfansince84 wrote:Pharmcat wrote:Wolfgang630 wrote:Luka has so much more potential. I don’t get him and this pathetic laziness. Where’s the drive to be at the very top?
Zion I’ll give a little bit more break. His ceiling is very high too. I hope he’s learning to take his weight serious throughout this injury.
When the mavs made no moves to get better I can see why luka would mail it in , team isn’t good enough to win so what’s the point of coming in and hitting the ground hard vs playing yourself into shape
Couldn't LeBron have done the same in 07 and 08? For all the crap he tends to get at least he had the mindset to try and become a goat. Luka having been a pro for 6 years should have the fitness/diet thing down at this point. It's disappointing tbh.
dhsilv2 wrote:azcatz11 wrote:dhsilv2 wrote:
Not sure the nike deals will be as impressive though.
Yes, the money would be there. Trust me.
Really? Why? Odds are he'd be a pretty average nfl player and do non QB's really get mega deals in the NFL?
DuallyNoted wrote:Complete hearsay on my part and I apologize if anyone has an issue with alcoholism but someone I know said that Doncic has a bit of a drinking problem. Neither of us are either fans of his or the Mavs or any of their rivals so it seemed like an honest statement. Grain of salt definitely needed, feel free to remove this comment if the mods don't think it's appropriate.
azcatz11 wrote:DuallyNoted wrote:Complete hearsay on my part and I apologize if anyone has an issue with alcoholism but someone I know said that Doncic has a bit of a drinking problem. Neither of us are either fans of his or the Mavs or any of their rivals so it seemed like an honest statement. Grain of salt definitely needed, feel free to remove this comment if the mods don't think it's appropriate.
What kind of drinking problem does he have? If he's chugging a 5th of vodka a night, that's an issue. If he's partying during off days, that's not nearly the issue.
azcatz11 wrote:dhsilv2 wrote:azcatz11 wrote:
Yes, the money would be there. Trust me.
Really? Why? Odds are he'd be a pretty average nfl player and do non QB's really get mega deals in the NFL?
He would not be a normal NFL star. He'd be a #1 NBA pick who went to the NFL. Never been done before. Bo Jackson on steroids. He could probably secure at least $20M a year from Nike
DuallyNoted wrote:azcatz11 wrote:DuallyNoted wrote:Complete hearsay on my part and I apologize if anyone has an issue with alcoholism but someone I know said that Doncic has a bit of a drinking problem. Neither of us are either fans of his or the Mavs or any of their rivals so it seemed like an honest statement. Grain of salt definitely needed, feel free to remove this comment if the mods don't think it's appropriate.
What kind of drinking problem does he have? If he's chugging a 5th of vodka a night, that's an issue. If he's partying during off days, that's not nearly the issue.
It was said in passing while there was a Mavericks game on. I was just thinking about it when I saw the thread title. Booze calories add up quick.
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dhsilv2 wrote:DuallyNoted wrote:azcatz11 wrote:
What kind of drinking problem does he have? If he's chugging a 5th of vodka a night, that's an issue. If he's partying during off days, that's not nearly the issue.
It was said in passing while there was a Mavericks game on. I was just thinking about it when I saw the thread title. Booze calories add up quick.
if he's drinking vodka and mountain dew that can add up REAL fast. If it's straight whisky he'd be drinking a LOT.
dhsilv2 wrote:
if he's drinking vodka and mountain dew that can add up REAL fast. If it's straight whisky he'd be drinking a LOT.
DuallyNoted wrote:dhsilv2 wrote:DuallyNoted wrote: It was said in passing while there was a Mavericks game on. I was just thinking about it when I saw the thread title. Booze calories add up quick.
if he's drinking vodka and mountain dew that can add up REAL fast. If it's straight whisky he'd be drinking a LOT.
I can't even imagine the amount of calories I was drinking when I was Doncic's age. I don't think a 21 year old millionoaire is going to be drinking Hot Toddys and counting calories.
Cavsfansince84 wrote:dhsilv2 wrote:
if he's drinking vodka and mountain dew that can add up REAL fast. If it's straight whisky he'd be drinking a LOT.
My sense with Luka for the last couple years is too much too fast. Too much money, too much fame, too much partying and too much food. I get the feeling he may grow out of it in a couple years but then again maybe he doesn't. Maybe he's ok just being thought of as a top 10 player and making $50m a year.
DuallyNoted wrote:azcatz11 wrote:DuallyNoted wrote:Complete hearsay on my part and I apologize if anyone has an issue with alcoholism but someone I know said that Doncic has a bit of a drinking problem. Neither of us are either fans of his or the Mavs or any of their rivals so it seemed like an honest statement. Grain of salt definitely needed, feel free to remove this comment if the mods don't think it's appropriate.
What kind of drinking problem does he have? If he's chugging a 5th of vodka a night, that's an issue. If he's partying during off days, that's not nearly the issue.
It was said in passing while there was a Mavericks game on. I was just thinking about it when I saw the thread title. Booze calories add up quick.
dhsilv2 wrote:
All honesty, why not? Hell, I'd be pretty happy coming off the bench making 1-2 million a year. Honestly, the desire to be the absolute BEST and go through that level of work is pretty amazing when there's really no economic incentive. At the income even an ok starter makes in the NBA...it's going to be hard to even know what to do with the difference in 10 a year or 45.
dirkdiggler4177 wrote:XTraderXL wrote:dirkdiggler4177 wrote:People call Doncic lazy, but forget he was dominating the Olympics averaging a triple-double in 32 minutes a game. He had 2 months off and I can't see how he was able to gain 30 pounds during two months. But he is known to be able to eat a ton of food. Ohh, well, he is 22, not 32.
Lazy excuses. Its pretty well known that Luka is lazy when it comes to physical conditioning. It has been the case forever. I am not sure he will ever change. Would be a shame for him not to reach his full potential and stay a borderline MVP candidate for the next 10+ years. Although at this rate he will catch up to Zion within 2-3 years
We have clear evidence that Luka is a hard worker. He would not be where he is at 22 if he wasn't. If you think that a 22-year kid with all the world resources and support can't improve his behavior then there is no reason for humankind to even try. Let's just shut this down.
og15 wrote:Big J wrote:In Luka's case I don't get what the big deal about playing your way into shape throughout the season is. It's better to be peaking when the playoffs start anyway.
Why do you need to play your way into shape in order to peak when the playoffs start? You're talking about things that are mutually exclusive. It's not one or the other. Coming into the season in shape or not overweight doesn't mean you will peak at the beginning of the season.
Being out of shape can increase injury risk, whether that materializes or not, the risk is higher. Missing games due to injury can mean worse W/L record. Worse W/L record will mean tougher early playoff matchups and your team likely being out early.
XTraderXL wrote:dirkdiggler4177 wrote:XTraderXL wrote:
Lazy excuses. Its pretty well known that Luka is lazy when it comes to physical conditioning. It has been the case forever. I am not sure he will ever change. Would be a shame for him not to reach his full potential and stay a borderline MVP candidate for the next 10+ years. Although at this rate he will catch up to Zion within 2-3 years
We have clear evidence that Luka is a hard worker. He would not be where he is at 22 if he wasn't. If you think that a 22-year kid with all the world resources and support can't improve his behavior then there is no reason for humankind to even try. Let's just shut this down.
Yeah, clear evidence he takes his conditioining seriously weighing in at 260lbs+. Real hard worker.
I know first hand he doesnt take his conditioning seriously, he doesnt want to lift weights, doesnt want to do anything without the ball. Thats why he is too heavy and looks like a dumpling.
Think what you want, I am just giving you the facts.
azcatz11 wrote:XTraderXL wrote:dirkdiggler4177 wrote:
We have clear evidence that Luka is a hard worker. He would not be where he is at 22 if he wasn't. If you think that a 22-year kid with all the world resources and support can't improve his behavior then there is no reason for humankind to even try. Let's just shut this down.
Yeah, clear evidence he takes his conditioining seriously weighing in at 260lbs+. Real hard worker.
I know first hand he doesnt take his conditioning seriously, he doesnt want to lift weights, doesnt want to do anything without the ball. Thats why he is too heavy and looks like a dumpling.
Think what you want, I am just giving you the facts.
I honestly hope the dude doesn’t have a drinking problem. It runs in my family and I don’t wish it upon anyone
azcatz11 wrote:dhsilv2 wrote:If true, I'm somewhat encouraged Zion was only 330. That's kinda on the low end of where i'd have guessed. 50-60 extra pounds of fat/water is still awful but he's looked just terrible to date.
This is going to sound absolutely crazy but he should consider a career in the NFL if he can't drop the weight. With his measurables, he can be an elite defensive tackle and won't have to diet.
