the Lakers with LeBron at Center…

[VanWest82]

Bron has been great but he isn't playing C on either end. Stanley Johnson and Carmelo are the ones guarding Cs. Lebron is playing his usual role as a back line help defender who frequently guards the weakest opposing forward threat (though not always). And he sure as heck isn't out there screening for ball handlers and catching lobs.

[Ballerhogger]

It’s working with smaller teams blazers, hawks etc won’t work against Memphis , jazz , suns, nuggets

[Sedale Threatt]

I’ve become convinced that Lebron is the result of a super soldier experiment ala Captain America. This is unreal.

It really is. And it's not just the effort he's made to maintain his body. More than anything, it's a testament to all the hard work he's put in on his game over the years. While he's still amazingly fast and powerful for his age, he's obviously taken a noticeable dip in athleticism, a big reason why he's at a career-low FTr. But he's still right at his career scoring rate, with elite efficiency, because of the polish and versatility in his game. Case in point: he's averaging a career-high three 3s per game while also ranking in the upper echelon among post scorers per possession. That speaks to a player with a tremendous work ethic and passion for the game, even after achieving pretty much everything there is to achieve and earning more money than he could spend in ten lifetimes. He doesn't get nearly enough credit for that.

[Marrrcuss]

It’s working with smaller teams blazers, hawks etc won’t work against Memphis , jazz , suns, nuggets

Funny thing is they played Memphis recently and Memphis won because of Ja's career night.

It was also the second game of back to backs......and you know how old they are, right? Lol

[Lost Angel]

It’s working with smaller teams blazers, hawks etc won’t work against Memphis , jazz , suns, nuggets

Funny thing is they played Memphis recently and Memphis won because of Ja's career night.

It was also the second game of back to backs......and you know how old they are, right? Lol

We play Memphis, Jazz, Nuggets in 3 of the next 5 games. This will be a major litmus test for the Lakers this season. I think If they win 4 of 5 then the league should start to take notice.

[Marrrcuss]

It’s working with smaller teams blazers, hawks etc won’t work against Memphis , jazz , suns, nuggets

Funny thing is they played Memphis recently and Memphis won because of Ja's career night.

It was also the second game of back to backs......and you know how old they are, right? Lol

We play Memphis, Jazz, Nuggets in 3 of the next 5 games. This will be a major litmus test for the Lakers this season. I think If they win 4 of 5 then the league should start to take notice.

If we win 4or 5 against contenders without AD, they need to do more than start to take notice. All the suspense will be gone from the season.

[Marrrcuss]

If we do well the next few games, they need to do more than take notice. They need to understand that it's a wrap.

[trickshot]

Bron has been great but he isn't playing C on either end. Stanley Johnson and Carmelo are the ones guarding Cs. Lebron is playing his usual role as a back line help defender who frequently guards the weakest opposing forward threat (though not always). And he sure as heck isn't out there screening for ball handlers and catching lobs.

They've all played C. It's not exclusive. Carmelo doesn't start so Lebron starts at C but also Stanley johnson wasn't yet on the Lakers when the experiment started sometime in November and after AD got injured. Carmelo at C was also a bit underwhelming. It's legit that Lebron has been playing C without and sometimes even with either on the floor, not just backline duty too. You can't overdo carmelo on a 5 that's half of a 1-5 PnR duo. That's how you end up with Lebron getting dunked on. Fizdale really abused that one. Neither guy should play C as long as they did in december.

[VanWest82]

Bron has been great but he isn't playing C on either end. Stanley Johnson and Carmelo are the ones guarding Cs. Lebron is playing his usual role as a back line help defender who frequently guards the weakest opposing forward threat (though not always). And he sure as heck isn't out there screening for ball handlers and catching lobs.

They've all played C. It's not exclusive. Carmelo doesn't start so Lebron starts at C but also Stanley johnson wasn't yet on the Lakers when the experiment started sometime in November and after AD got injured. Carmelo at C was also a bit underwhelming. It's legit that Lebron has been playing C without and sometimes even with either on the floor, not just backline duty too. You can't overdo carmelo on a 5 that's half of a 1-5 PnR duo. That's how you end up with Lebron getting dunked on. Fizdale really abused that one. Neither guy should play C as long as they did in december.

Lebron wasn't regularly playing C in Dec or any other month. He's played a small number of possessions matched up with the functional opposing C. AD was Lakers starting C in Dec, and then Dwight and DAJ after AD went down. Then they switched to Ariza and then Stanley Johnson as the guys matched up with opposing Cs. Melo does so more than Lebron.

Any modern NBA defense is going to have guys helping and spending some possessions matched vs. the opposing big. It's not accurate to portray what's been happening as "Lebron at C" line ups. He hasn't been a C on offense or defense outside of a few possessions here and there.

[trickshot]

Bron has been great but he isn't playing C on either end. Stanley Johnson and Carmelo are the ones guarding Cs. Lebron is playing his usual role as a back line help defender who frequently guards the weakest opposing forward threat (though not always). And he sure as heck isn't out there screening for ball handlers and catching lobs.

They've all played C. It's not exclusive. Carmelo doesn't start so Lebron starts at C but also Stanley johnson wasn't yet on the Lakers when the experiment started sometime in November and after AD got injured. Carmelo at C was also a bit underwhelming. It's legit that Lebron has been playing C without and sometimes even with either on the floor, not just backline duty too. You can't overdo carmelo on a 5 that's half of a 1-5 PnR duo. That's how you end up with Lebron getting dunked on. Fizdale really abused that one. Neither guy should play C as long as they did in december.

Lebron wasn't regularly playing C in Dec or any other month. He's played a small number of possessions matched up with the functional opposing C. AD was Lakers starting C in Dec, and then Dwight and DAJ after AD went down. Then they switched to Ariza and then Stanley Johnson as the guys matched up with opposing Cs. Melo does so more than Lebron.

Any modern NBA defense is going to have guys helping and spending some possessions matched vs. the opposing big. It's not accurate to portray what's been happening as "Lebron at C" line ups. He hasn't been a C on offense or defense outside of a few possessions here and there.

Jordan has picked up 7 straight DNPs and Ariza and Ariza picked up 4 in december to covid protocol. He also doesn't play 5 for the Lakers in almost any lineup. He (ariza) just came back from injury and has looked unfit.

This one's not narrative though. He (lebron) is playing C recently. Actually started december not november. Not just conceptually, recently it has been his actual lineup position. We can assess how well he plays it but it's not a narrative that he plays it.

[VanWest82]

They've all played C. It's not exclusive. Carmelo doesn't start so Lebron starts at C but also Stanley johnson wasn't yet on the Lakers when the experiment started sometime in November and after AD got injured. Carmelo at C was also a bit underwhelming. It's legit that Lebron has been playing C without and sometimes even with either on the floor, not just backline duty too. You can't overdo carmelo on a 5 that's half of a 1-5 PnR duo. That's how you end up with Lebron getting dunked on. Fizdale really abused that one. Neither guy should play C as long as they did in december.

Lebron wasn't regularly playing C in Dec or any other month. He's played a small number of possessions matched up with the functional opposing C. AD was Lakers starting C in Dec, and then Dwight and DAJ after AD went down. Then they switched to Ariza and then Stanley Johnson as the guys matched up with opposing Cs. Melo does so more than Lebron.

Any modern NBA defense is going to have guys helping and spending some possessions matched vs. the opposing big. It's not accurate to portray what's been happening as "Lebron at C" line ups. He hasn't been a C on offense or defense outside of a few possessions here and there.

Jordan has picked up 7 straight DNPs and Ariza and Ariza picked up 4 in december to covid protocol. He also doesn't play 5 for the Lakers in almost any lineup. He just came back from injury and has looked unfit.

This one's not narrative though. He is playing C recently. Actually started december not november. Not just conceptually, recently it has been his actual lineup position. We can assess how well he plays it but it's not a narrative that he plays it.

He's played C occasionally for a few possessions here and there. Stanley Johnson has been the functional C defensively, not Lebron. Dwight has played in some of these games. Melo has spent more time guarding opposing Cs than Lebron. Whether Lakers or ESPN/TNT graphics crew is calling him a C or not, for the vast majority of the time he hasn't been one on the court which the match up / tracking backs up.

[trickshot]

Lebron wasn't regularly playing C in Dec or any other month. He's played a small number of possessions matched up with the functional opposing C. AD was Lakers starting C in Dec, and then Dwight and DAJ after AD went down. Then they switched to Ariza and then Stanley Johnson as the guys matched up with opposing Cs. Melo does so more than Lebron.

Any modern NBA defense is going to have guys helping and spending some possessions matched vs. the opposing big. It's not accurate to portray what's been happening as "Lebron at C" line ups. He hasn't been a C on offense or defense outside of a few possessions here and there.

Jordan has picked up 7 straight DNPs and Ariza and Ariza picked up 4 in december to covid protocol. He also doesn't play 5 for the Lakers in almost any lineup. He just came back from injury and has looked unfit.

This one's not narrative though. He is playing C recently. Actually started december not november. Not just conceptually, recently it has been his actual lineup position. We can assess how well he plays it but it's not a narrative that he plays it.

He's played C occasionally for a few possessions here and there. Stanley Johnson has been the functional C defensively, not Lebron. Dwight has played in some of these games. Melo has spent more time guarding opposing Cs than Lebron. Whether Lakers or ESPN/TNT graphics crew is calling him a C or not, for the vast majority of the time he isn't one on the court.

I liked Dwight, even on the 6ers, is underused and should play more but he has 7 DNPs in his last 12 and only got more than 6 mins playing time in 3 of those. Just saying man, the Lebron at 5 thing is no lie. I don't even think it always works too well for the Lakers but it's real he plays it. Stanley Johnson doesn't play 5 too much because he's used on the better offensive players or a point of attack defender. He does more dirty work than Lebron but he might have even played less actual 5 than Lebron. He's more likely to be matched on the Hardens than Claxtons or James Johnsons, also makes sense as there aren't enough on ball defenders to have him on an idle assignment.

[VanWest82]

Jordan has picked up 7 straight DNPs and Ariza and Ariza picked up 4 in december to covid protocol. He also doesn't play 5 for the Lakers in almost any lineup. He just came back from injury and has looked unfit.

This one's not narrative though. He is playing C recently. Actually started december not november. Not just conceptually, recently it has been his actual lineup position. We can assess how well he plays it but it's not a narrative that he plays it.

He's played C occasionally for a few possessions here and there. Stanley Johnson has been the functional C defensively, not Lebron. Dwight has played in some of these games. Melo has spent more time guarding opposing Cs than Lebron. Whether Lakers or ESPN/TNT graphics crew is calling him a C or not, for the vast majority of the time he isn't one on the court.

I liked Dwight, even on the 6ers, is underused and should play more but he has 7 DNPs in his last 12 and only got more than 6 mins playing time in 3 of those. Just saying man, the Lebron at 5 thing is no lie. I don't even think it always works too well for the Lakers but it's real he plays it. Stanley Johnson doesn't play 5 too much because he's used on the better offensive players or a point of attack defender. He does more dirty work than Lebron but he might have even played less actual 5 than Lebron. He's more likely to be matched on the Hardens than Claxtons or James Johnsons, also makes sense as there aren't enough on ball defenders to have him on an idle assignment.

I just went through a bunch of their recent advanced box scores on nba.com. Stanley Johnson is the one matching up with the bigs, not Lebron. Capela, Naz Reid, Nance. Melo guarded Perry, Claxton, Blake. Dwight guarded Len, Adams, and Poeltl. DAJ/Melo guarded Vuc...

You're remembering Lebron playing C vs. Houston and for a few possessions vs. Ayton. There have been instances where opposing teams have gone small and Lebron's guy became the functional big for a short stretch. Mostly it's been the other guys.

[twyzted]

So the best point guard and best wing forward that's been on our league this millennium is playing center in stretches and many of you chimed in just to throw shade .

Making excuses for another man's success is so damn weak.

Exactly. A 37 year old who has played 62,000 minutes is playing center, scoring more efficiently than just about every other high volume scorer, and is now playing his 4th position in his career, and has gone from assist leading PG in 2020 to leading scorer Center in 2022, at ages of 35-37. To even begin to explain to people how remarkable this is about a once in a lifetime talent who can do this…

No its just you guys who think anything he does is an extraordinary feat which has never happened and never will happen again.

But we have Tom Brady at 45 still playing at a high level.
Cristiano Ronaldo who is 37, 74k minutes in far more taxing sport. Still one of the best.
Zlatan ibrahimovic 41still playing at a high level.

And he is still playing the same postition he has always played, its not like he is banging downlow with center for 48 minutes

[lonzo_pelota]

So this is telling us Vogel having DJ at center & Westbrooks turnovers cost us prob 5wins or more when lebron was injured earlier in the season. So now we're playing catch up

[MisterHibachi]

Bron has been great but he isn't playing C on either end. Stanley Johnson and Carmelo are the ones guarding Cs. Lebron is playing his usual role as a back line help defender who frequently guards the weakest opposing forward threat (though not always). And he sure as heck isn't out there screening for ball handlers and catching lobs.

Why speak if you're not watching the games? Anyone watching can clearly see he's the 5.

[vxmike]

It’s basically lebron +4 shooters which has always been the ideal lineup around him. He’s always been better playing the 4 so it’s not really a surprise.

Right. LeBron playing a bigger position has been the obvious best lineup for him for several years.

[Kingdibs19]

Deandre Jordan was not doing **** like this when he was starting at C. One of the differences with having a high IQ goat to replace him.

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[Bobbymcgee]

LeBron at center with AD as his back-up.

[Ballerhogger]

Deandre Jordan was not doing **** like this when he was starting at C. One of the differences with having a high IQ goat to replace him.

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He has little iq I don’t why he was obtained to be honest he can’t do anything