Reggie Jackson galloping down court is a travel, right?

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Re: Reggie Jackson galloping down court is a travel, right? 

Post#61 » by YourCellarDoor » Sat Feb 5, 2022 7:20 pm

Catchall wrote:
YourCellarDoor wrote:it's actually sad how many people have such a bad misunderstanding of a basic rule like this.

you literally cannot travel during a live dribble.


I've been called for a travel with a live dribble when I did a move where my left foot touched the floor twice, without my right foot touching the floor. It was a cool hesi with a small hop.


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Re: Reggie Jackson galloping down court is a travel, right? 

Post#62 » by ellobo » Sat Feb 5, 2022 8:20 pm

Catchall wrote:
YourCellarDoor wrote:it's actually sad how many people have such a bad misunderstanding of a basic rule like this.

you literally cannot travel during a live dribble.


I've been called for a travel with a live dribble when I did a move where my left foot touched the floor twice, without my right foot touching the floor. It was a cool hesi with a small hop.


Then that was an incorrect call. If the ref thought you discontinued your dribble, that would be a separate violation. Too long a pause at the top of a dribble is technically a violation (discontinued dribble, not traveling), although players are generally given a lot of leeway. From the NBA rule book:
A player who is dribbling may not put any part of his hand under the ball and (1) carry it from one point to another or (2) bring it to a pause and then continue to dribble again.


However, it is clearly not illegal to hop on one foot during a live dribble.

Before initiating a dribble or after you pick up your dribble, you can not hop up and down on the same foot, but during a live dribble it is perfectly legal.
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Re: Reggie Jackson galloping down court is a travel, right? 

Post#63 » by bigbreakfast » Sat Feb 5, 2022 8:30 pm

Alonzo_Morning wrote:I thought you had to keep 1 foot on the floor at all times (or the appearance of) unless you were going into shooting motion

I guess it makes sense if you were dribbling and someone was lying on the floor in front of you and you had to keep dribbling


You must be thinking of the rulebook from the speedwalking basketball league ... In other leagues running is allowed
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Re: Reggie Jackson galloping down court is a travel, right? 

Post#64 » by BallerTalk » Sat Feb 5, 2022 8:46 pm

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Alonzo_Morning wrote:I thought you had to keep 1 foot on the floor at all times (or the appearance of) unless you were going into shooting motion

I guess it makes sense if you were dribbling and someone was lying on the floor in front of you and you had to keep dribbling


You must be thinking of the rulebook from the speedwalking basketball league ... In other leagues running is allowed


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Re: Reggie Jackson galloping down court is a travel, right? 

Post#65 » by og15 » Sat Feb 5, 2022 8:53 pm

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pbernardi wrote:So you can do this move inside the post going to the basket?

Once this is technically not a travel, one could do this jumping higher, right?

What move? Dribble and jump while the dribble is live in the post? What would be the benefit for the player, getting the ball stripped?


Not talking about benefits of the play, just observing that this move would be called a travel if near basket IMHO. A player which does this "jump dribble" once and then starts the two steps do the basket would almost certainly be called by referees, for example.

I guess we would have to see someone do something like this first :lol:

Problem is that it just doesn't make sense practically for a player to do it
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Re: Reggie Jackson galloping down court is a travel, right? 

Post#66 » by MrBigShot » Sat Feb 5, 2022 8:56 pm

This thread gives off calling 3 second violation in a blacktop pick up game vibes
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Re: Reggie Jackson galloping down court is a travel, right? 

Post#67 » by nickhx2 » Sat Feb 5, 2022 10:31 pm

guys what if reggie were c-walking then it's a travel, right
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Re: Reggie Jackson galloping down court is a travel, right? 

Post#68 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Sat Feb 5, 2022 11:51 pm

I'm surprised no one's mentioned using a jump dribble move as a way to fake/deke/psyche out the defender... Maybe you could do a jump fake pass into another dribble or something.
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Re: Reggie Jackson galloping down court is a travel, right? 

Post#69 » by og15 » Sun Feb 6, 2022 12:07 am

nickhx2 wrote:guys what if reggie were c-walking then it's a travel, right



EDIT: I was randomly watching this video, and I remembered this thread for some reason:

Jerry West at 19:14 does a hop while he dribbles, probably happened many other times in the video, but I wasn't thinking of it earlier
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Re: Reggie Jackson galloping down court is a travel, right? 

Post#70 » by KrAzY3 » Sun Feb 6, 2022 12:10 am

Alonzo_Morning wrote:I thought you had to keep 1 foot on the floor at all times (or the appearance of) unless you were going into shooting motion

I guess it makes sense if you were dribbling and someone was lying on the floor in front of you and you had to keep dribbling

I'm not sure how anyone could get that idea, especially considering the difference between running and walking is that you specifically do not keep one foot on the ground at all times while running. So then you would be arguing that you're not allowed to run while dribbling...

For racewalking you are disqualified for having both feet off the ground at one time, it's one of the key differences between running and walking. You kind of have to freeze frame it to see but if someone is running they often end up with both feet off the ground at one time.
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Re: Reggie Jackson galloping down court is a travel, right? 

Post#71 » by og15 » Sun Feb 6, 2022 12:18 am

MrBigShot wrote:This thread gives off calling 3 second violation in a blacktop pick up game vibes

OP actually just likely doesn't realize how many times they have both feet off the floor or they don't ever sprint down the court or do big crossovers. If you are doing a big crossover, the hesi set up will regularly include hopping into the initial attack to set up it up.

You can look at any player, but here is an easy example:


It can be seen at regular speed, but easier watching at 0.5 speed. A hesi (hesitation dribble) will have many players hopping to set it up, just so many situations where both feet are coming off the floor while dribbling, let alone one foot.
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Re: Reggie Jackson galloping down court is a travel, right? 

Post#72 » by og15 » Sun Feb 6, 2022 12:24 am

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pbernardi wrote:
og15 wrote:
What move? Dribble and jump while the dribble is live in the post? What would be the benefit for the player, getting the ball stripped?


Not talking about benefits of the play, just observing that this move would be called a travel if near basket IMHO. A player which does this "jump dribble" once and then starts the two steps do the basket would almost certainly be called by referees, for example.

I guess we would have to see someone do something like this first :lol:

Problem is that it just doesn't make sense practically for a player to do it

Now, if you mean a practical jump dribble, not specifically what Reggie was doing which isn't practical in the post, players do that all the time. Many times when backing down, guys will hop on the dribble for more momentum.
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Re: Reggie Jackson galloping down court is a travel, right? 

Post#73 » by Lala870 » Sun Feb 6, 2022 4:51 am

That is 100% a travel....lmao @ anyone defending that not being a travel.

galloping with the ball in the air :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post#74 » by John Murdoch » Sun Feb 6, 2022 5:07 am

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Re: Reggie Jackson galloping down court is a travel, right? 

Post#75 » by J_T » Sun Feb 6, 2022 11:20 am

So many people have seen this, the play has been on commented on by announcers, Shaq, Barkley, Kenny etc - not one of them even mentioned that this could have been problematic. This should tell you it's not travel.
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Re: Reggie Jackson galloping down court is a travel, right? 

Post#76 » by Dupp » Sun Feb 6, 2022 11:47 am

Literally every single time a player runs they have two feet off the ground.
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Re: Reggie Jackson galloping down court is a travel, right? 

Post#77 » by Egg Nog » Sun Feb 6, 2022 11:49 am

Lala870 wrote:That is 100% a travel....lmao @ anyone defending that not being a travel.

galloping with the ball in the air :lol: :lol: :lol:


Anyone who says this is "100% a travel" is 100% ignorant.

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Re: Reggie Jackson galloping down court is a travel, right? 

Post#78 » by Inigo Montoya » Sun Feb 6, 2022 1:39 pm

It's cool, is what it is. Baller move.
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Re: Reggie Jackson galloping down court is a travel, right? 

Post#79 » by Myth » Sun Feb 6, 2022 1:51 pm

Alonzo_Morning wrote:
Shock Defeat wrote:So basically if a player is dribbling but shuffles his feet quickly while the ball is still bouncing up to his palm, that's not a travel.

However this is closer to palming for sure.[/


In basketball, traveling is a violation of the rules that occurs when a player holding the ball moves one or both their feet illegally. Traveling is also called, predominantly in a streetball game, "walking" or "steps". If the pivot foot is lifted, a pass or try for made basket must be made before the pivot foot is replaced to the floor.


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If you don’t know the basic fundamentals of what a pivot is, then maybe you shouldn’t be the one trying to debate traveling rules.
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Re: Reggie Jackson galloping down court is a travel, right? 

Post#80 » by sixerswillrule » Sun Feb 6, 2022 4:48 pm

Alonzo_Morning wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:
Alonzo_Morning wrote:I thought you had to keep 1 foot on the floor at all times (or the appearance of) unless you were going into shooting motion

I guess it makes sense if you were dribbling and someone was lying on the floor in front of you and you had to keep dribbling


I mean simply running or jogging and dribbling means you will have both feet off the ground. So literally this happens dozens of times in every game you've ever watched. :D


But it's akin to a jumping motion when you have the ball in your possession, two feet leaving ground, then two feet land back on the ground, with the ball in your possession.

That's a travel


Because with the ball in your hands, you have a pivot foot. While dribbling you do not have a pivot foot.

It is not possible for a player to travel while dribbling the ball


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