Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Cleveland Cavaliers

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4 Questions

Poll ended at Mon Apr 18, 2022 2:15 am

Q1: Keep the GM
66
22%
Q1: Fire the GM
7
2%
Q2: Keep the coach
62
21%
Q2: Fire the coach
7
2%
Q3: Performed better than expected
66
22%
Q3: Performed as expected
6
2%
Q3: Performed worse than expected
4
1%
Q4: Rising Team
71
24%
Q4: Treadmill Team
6
2%
Q4: Waning Team
1
0%
 
Total votes: 296

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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Cleveland Cavaliers 

Post#61 » by TheLand13 » Sun Apr 17, 2022 4:25 pm

Hugi Mancura wrote:I do think you read mine post, but because you didn't have counter you decided to only attack one line. Weak I would say.


No, I straight up stopped reading after that sentence because your examples were idiotic.

Hugi Mancura wrote:I could go on talking about how team with 1 all star should win tanking teams even if they don't have all their starters and how Detroit was missing Grant in one of those games, but I think that would be pointless.


It would be pointless, because it would showcase your complete lack of understanding regarding how the Cavaliers are built as a team if you think the Cavaliers without any actual playmakers on the team have any chance of winning a game, regardless of who they are playing, and thus making it even more clear you have no idea what you're talking about. None of their SGs or SFs were capable of creating their own shot. How on earth could you possibly expect them to beat anyone?

Hugi Mancura wrote:I don't actually care if someone thinks Allen's impact is super huge or bigger than Rubio's. People have right to their own opinions, but difference between people are that some people think their opinions are so great that everyone who disagrees with them are stupid even if they can't support their claims.


It's not a matter of thinking my opinions are great. The Cavaliers were a lot worse without Allen than they were Rubio. This is a fact. I don't know what kind of rubbish you tried to use to back up the guys claim that Rubio was their most important player, but I imagine it's just as laughable as his was. Either way, it's not worth the time and effort to read through.

Again, do some actual research next time. And if you choose not to, then waste someone else's time please.
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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Cleveland Cavaliers 

Post#62 » by Hugi Mancura » Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:04 am

TheLand13 wrote:
Hugi Mancura wrote:I do think you read mine post, but because you didn't have counter you decided to only attack one line. Weak I would say.


No, I straight up stopped reading after that sentence because your examples were idiotic.

Hugi Mancura wrote:I could go on talking about how team with 1 all star should win tanking teams even if they don't have all their starters and how Detroit was missing Grant in one of those games, but I think that would be pointless.


It would be pointless, because it would showcase your complete lack of understanding regarding how the Cavaliers are built as a team if you think the Cavaliers without any actual playmakers on the team have any chance of winning a game, regardless of who they are playing, and thus making it even more clear you have no idea what you're talking about. None of their SGs or SFs were capable of creating their own shot. How on earth could you possibly expect them to beat anyone?

Hugi Mancura wrote:I don't actually care if someone thinks Allen's impact is super huge or bigger than Rubio's. People have right to their own opinions, but difference between people are that some people think their opinions are so great that everyone who disagrees with them are stupid even if they can't support their claims.


It's not a matter of thinking my opinions are great. The Cavaliers were a lot worse without Allen than they were Rubio. This is a fact. I don't know what kind of rubbish you tried to use to back up the guys claim that Rubio was their most important player, but I imagine it's just as laughable as his was. Either way, it's not worth the time and effort to read through.

Again, do some actual research next time. And if you choose not to, then waste someone else's time please.


You still haven't shown a single statistic or anything else to support your claim. So unless you put up even a single stat to support your claim it is an opinion and very bad one. I understand that some people just don't have the brain capacity to support their claims. They just believe that louder they shout somehow makes things come true. Typical troll behavior.
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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Cleveland Cavaliers 

Post#63 » by TheLand13 » Mon Apr 18, 2022 2:43 am

Hugi Mancura wrote:
TheLand13 wrote:
Hugi Mancura wrote:I do think you read mine post, but because you didn't have counter you decided to only attack one line. Weak I would say.


No, I straight up stopped reading after that sentence because your examples were idiotic.

Hugi Mancura wrote:I could go on talking about how team with 1 all star should win tanking teams even if they don't have all their starters and how Detroit was missing Grant in one of those games, but I think that would be pointless.


It would be pointless, because it would showcase your complete lack of understanding regarding how the Cavaliers are built as a team if you think the Cavaliers without any actual playmakers on the team have any chance of winning a game, regardless of who they are playing, and thus making it even more clear you have no idea what you're talking about. None of their SGs or SFs were capable of creating their own shot. How on earth could you possibly expect them to beat anyone?

Hugi Mancura wrote:I don't actually care if someone thinks Allen's impact is super huge or bigger than Rubio's. People have right to their own opinions, but difference between people are that some people think their opinions are so great that everyone who disagrees with them are stupid even if they can't support their claims.


It's not a matter of thinking my opinions are great. The Cavaliers were a lot worse without Allen than they were Rubio. This is a fact. I don't know what kind of rubbish you tried to use to back up the guys claim that Rubio was their most important player, but I imagine it's just as laughable as his was. Either way, it's not worth the time and effort to read through.

Again, do some actual research next time. And if you choose not to, then waste someone else's time please.


You still haven't shown a single statistic or anything else to support your claim. So unless you put up even a single stat to support your claim it is an opinion and very bad one. I understand that some people just don't have the brain capacity to support their claims. They just believe that louder they shout somehow makes things come true. Typical troll behavior.


How about Cleveland going from a top five defensive team with Allen to a bottom 20 one without him? Or Cleveland having a negative record without him? Or the fact that Allen had the highest offensive rating AND defensive rating in the NBA at one point? No positive impact Rubio had on the team comes anywhere close to matching that. I shouldn’t have to point any of this out though. Anyone who actually followed the team or even has a decent understanding of the Cavaliers knows how foolish it is to claim Rubio had a bigger impact on the team than Allen did.

Again, go waste someone else’s time please.

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