Build around Rudy Gobert

[hippesthippo]

Best realistic team you can think, assuming he's making 30% of the cap and he's the best or at least 1b.

For instance, I would go for
Lonzo
Mo. Morris
Trent
KCP
George
Crowder
Batum
Gobert

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Trading for every teams best 3andD player AND Paul George is far from realistic. I agree with where you going with it tho.

He'd be a great fit on the current Clippers team. Not sure what assets they have tho.

[TheNewEra]

I'd say beyond the argument of whether or not Rudy can be 1B or 2 or whatever. Any team around him requires another high level / elite perimeter defender (which is something he has never had - let that sink in).

Beyond their force on the floor this creates, having a strong overall perimeter defense would punish teams trying to run 5 out against the jazz to get Rudy off the floor the open the paint.

I'd say a starting of :
Jrue
Batum
Siakam
Myles Turner
Rudy

completed with some strong perimeter defenders on the bench would make for a solid squad.

I don't think there's enough scoring here but I like where you're going. At least swap Batum for, say, a healthy Jamal Murray and you've got a team that starts to make people nervous.

Teams will pack the paint area and force Turner and Siakam to shoot. If you get a good game from Jrue and Batum I still don’t see enough shooting to compete consistently with a jammed up paint area.

[Bobbymcgee]

Gobert can pack the paint, block shots, rebound and catch lob passes for dunks. He does these things really well. He needs to be on a team with a strong point guard and strong shooters that can hide the fact that he can't do much else.

Also, teams are going to abuse him on the switch and also by putting a three point shooter at center. When that happens he leaves his team at a disadvantage. Either the team plays through it or he has to go to the bench. Happens to Zubac on the Clippers too. The Mavs especially love to abuse him lol.

[TheNewEra]

Gobert can pack the paint, block shots, rebound and catch lob passes for dunks. He does these things really well. He needs to be on a team with a strong point guard and strong shooters that can hide the fact that he can't do much else.

Also, teams are going to abuse him on the switch and also by putting a three point shooter at center. When that happens he leaves his team at a disadvantage. Either the team plays through it or he has to go to the bench. Happens to Zubac on the Clippers too. The Mavs especially love to abuse him lol.

Happens to every center in the league that’s the point of screens to pull a defense out of position to attack the other help defenders. Harder to talk when still getting beat when there was no Luka. Teams that have a shooting big man complain they don’t have enough defensive help and teams with a defensive big complain about scoring. Unless you have Jokic or Embiid you are going to compromise and Gobert is no where near that level.


This topic has shown fans want Gobert to be on a team that can hold their own ground on defense without funneling to him but be good enough to compensate for his complete lack of reliable scoring or switch risk

[Kobe187]

You can’t, he would have to be the 4th best player for the team to be successful, for example swap Bam with Gobert and Miami’s solid squad with Butler, Lowry, Herro, Robinson, Tucker, Struss and Oladipo would probably be slightly worse.

Gobert:
Offensively 3/10
Defensively 9/10

Bam:
Offensively 5.5/10
Defensively 8.5/10

He’d be a good fit on a team like the Warriors, Clippers, Bucks, Celtics or Nets as a complimentary piece.

[Baski]

Gobert, Caruso, Curry. Autofill the rest of the roster with shooters and defenders. Contender. Easy peezy

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You shoulnt, because you cant

[babyjax13]

Let's say the Bulls traded DDR/Vuc for Gobert and Gay
Utah gets 2 vets who can score-need a PF who can play D

But the Bulls end up with
Ball/Ayo
Lavine/Caruso
PWill/JGreen
MLE/Gay
Gobert/#18

If the MLE PF is decent, and PWill develops that could be a VERY good team. Caruso/Ball/Ayo/JGreen/PWill would be very good defenders with Gobert behind

Man Utah would be so crap after this haha

[babyjax13]

I could see Brooklyn building a contender around Gobert and Durant if they moved on from Irving and Simmons. I'll ignore how exactly they do this and focus on a couple of players they could possibly acquire.

Rudy Gobert
Jerami Grant
Kevin Durant
Joe Harris
Fred VanVleet

Fill out the bench with reasonable players and I think that is a contender where Gobert is the second best player - the clear anchor of the defense, and a nice complimentary player on offense.

[bkohler]

I’ve always wondered how Gobert would be viewed if he had Chris Paul or peak James Harden to throw him lobs.

I think you could do something like:
Paul
KCP
Mikal Bridges
Covington
Gobert

[DrModesty]

Fantasy building a team around a player while keeping it realistic is tough because ultimately other teams aren't just going to let you do what you want. That is why even though there are a ton of great players, plenty don't end up in the right circumstance to win titles.

Starters:

Darius Garland
Marcus Smart
Gordon Hayward
Wendell Carter Jr
Rudy Gobert

Bench:

Tyus Jones
Alex Caruso
Joe Ingles
Kenrich Williams
Kyle Anderson
Jeremiah Robinson-Earl

The above is affordable, half a dozen guys can pass Gobert the ball when he gets his deep mismatches, there is a good amount of shooting, lots of playmaking and there are a good number of strong defenders. Now Utah can't do this because they don't have the assets or the good fortune to have drafted a recent rookie that is a burgeoning star (Which is a necessity for a Gobert led team with title aspirations imo), but this team is substantially better then Utah which is already a perennial 1st/2nd round team.

[HomoSapien]

It’s hard to envision building a championship team around him. You couldn’t build around Dikembe Mutombo, who was a better player, either. Ideally, he needs to be surrounded by two elite offensive players.

[Inigo Montoya]

I think there is a misconception out there that Gobert can exploit mis-matches and that if he only got the ball when that happens, he'd score more. Unfortunately, he can't. We've seen plenty of examples of Gobert being guarded by guys like Klay Thompson and being unable to score, that's just not his game. There is a reason he doesn't get many passes down low when he gets a mis-match, and it's not because of a beef with Mitchell.

[brutalitops]

Gobert
Luka
DFS
Brunson
Bullock

Robert
JJJ
Brooks
Bane
Morant

CP3
Booker
Bridges
Crowder
Gobert

Smart
Brown
Tatum
RW3
Gobert


Curry
Klay
Payton
Green
Gobert

Holiday
matthews
Middleton
Giannis
Lopez

That is 6 teams which can utilise Gobert as a 4th option on offense, while not taking away and defense.

Raptors get really close as well


It's not Goberts fault that He's putting out fires because Mitchell likes to watch defenders drive past him and ice out Gobert to create 4v5 offense.

Watch Basketball PLEASE. I beg, His offensive positioning is fine, He doesnt get any PNR because Utah dont have a player that can play PNR, Their best defenders are Gobert, Then its O'Neil who's Eh, House who, come on, And Bogdanovic who yeah, At least is big, While Conley/Mitchell for every "Oh that guys a problem he can get buckets" allows offensive players to get everything they want every game

Yeah he cant generate any offense with nothing going on, Thats cool. He's also working overtime trying to guard 2 open players

[brutalitops]

I think there is a misconception out there that Gobert can exploit mis-matches and that if he only got the ball when that happens, he'd score more. Unfortunately, he can't. We've seen plenty of examples of Gobert being guarded by guys like Klay Thompson and being unable to score, that's just not his game. There is a reason he doesn't get many passes down low when he gets a mis-match, and it's not because of a beef with Mitchell.

Since Jingles went down, You guy's PNR has been dead, It's more the pairing isnt great, Mitchell is a super gifted player, but hes not making anyone better bar the gravity you need to guard him

Gobert would do better with a player who can hit the PNR, who can throw a lob

Mitchell would do better with a guy who can create offense and draw players away from him to operate then bothering boxing Gobert out only when he';s like 3m away from the basket

[Joao Saraiva]

For everyone saying he isn't good on offense... he won't create his own offense, but he screens hard and rolls well, if you're willing to pass the ball he'll finish a ton. Put him with CP3, Luka, LeBron, etc. and he'll give you arround 15 PPG on very high efficiency.

On defense he's great. I think the Lakers should try to trade for him, just don't think they have anything we want in Utah. And no, we don't want Westbrook.

Yeah I don't get how being the most efficient offensive player in the league and giving you great screening and getting offensive rebounds to create possessions, and scoring like 20 pp/48 minutes is like being some sort of offensive black hole. I think he probably gives you more value than certain offense only players who aren't super efficient.

Just look around the league and see who can get you near that many points on that efficiency...

And now think about this... Mitchell is our primary offensive weapon. I don't know where I saw it but I think it's accurate, Mitchell passed the ball 2 times per game to Gobert. We aren't talking about assits, just passing the damn ball.

With a good and willing playmaker I guess he'll just produce even more.

[Roger Murdock]

The whole point of having Rudy Gobert is compromised when the rest of your defenders suck and the offense is running free all game

It’s impossible to guard an entire team

If he was on a team with good wing defenders I think it would be absurd

A good team where he’d be the best player would be something like

Marcus Smart
Lonzo Ball
Mikal Bridges
Myles Bridges
Rudy Gobert

That defense would be out of this world

[KembaWalker]

The whole point of having Rudy Gobert is compromised when the rest of your defenders suck and the offense is running free all game

It’s impossible to guard an entire team

If he was on a team with good wing defenders I think it would be absurd

A good team where he’d be the best player would be something like

Marcus Smart
Lonzo Ball
Mikal Bridges
Myles Bridges
Rudy Gobert

That defense would be out of this world

with that lineup you'd pretty much be over the salary cap next year just on your starters for a team that would not make the playoffs. or maybe be a low seed sweep. someone has to be able to score the ball

[Tetlak]

You simply can't build a contender around Rudy Gobert. He is a high end, limited role player.

You'd need a high level pick and roll point guard, a point of attack defender who can shoot, and two versatile forwards who can shoot. Even then, that wouldn't be enough, because you'd need one elite 3 level creator and that player would obviously be much better than Rudy.

[jpengland]

Put him in the current Mavs. Win a title.