Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Memphis Grizzlies

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4 Questions

Poll ended at Mon May 16, 2022 4:39 am

Q1: Keep the GM
78
24%
Q1: Fire the GM
1
0%
Q2: Keep the coach
76
23%
Q2: Fire the coach
5
2%
Q3: Performed better than expected
70
21%
Q3: Performed as expected
10
3%
Q3: Performed worse than expected
2
1%
Q4: Rising Team
82
25%
Q4: Treadmill Team
2
1%
Q4: Waning Team
1
0%
 
Total votes: 327

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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Memphis Grizzlies 

Post#61 » by R-DAWG » Sun May 15, 2022 6:30 pm

Los_29 wrote:Rising team with a lot of good young players. The only concern I have is the way Ja Morant plays and his longevity in this league. I don't think you can win in this league if your superstar can't play defense and can't shoot the ball. Those are two very important aspects of today's game and when you can't do both that becomes a huge problem.

Memphis has a lot of talent on their squad but no one that can be the team's 2nd option. I think consolidating some of that talent and getting a legitimate #2 would make them an even more dangerous team.


This is great point regarding Ja long term and the gap in this team short term. Even if Ja can stay on the court the next few seasons, I kind of feel you need to approach things like the window to win with him is now. Guys who play the game the way he does not tend to have long careers as top-15 players. Look at how Dwayne Wade fell off after the 2011 finals, which was the end of his 8th season in the league. Wade was still a good player, but not the all NBA player he was up to that point.

So the question to me becomes (a) how do you find a true #2 option and (b) can you do the same without giving up Bane or JJJ, who as your 3rd and 4th best players are great.

Dillion Brooks likely is not in their long term future, and I would assume one of Clarke or Tillman won't get a long term contract. They also need to make decisions on Tyus Jones and SoMo, and my assumption is they will be looking to sign both guys to short term deals. Morant's extension won't kick in until after next season when both Steven Adams and Dillion Brooks are off the books, which provides some good flexibility. I think they should a decision on Clake/Tillman this year and flip the guy they choose not to resign for a late 1st rd pick to re-set the rookie scale contract clock.

I wonder if they would roll the dice on a guy like Julius Randle, similar to how they rolled the dice on ZBo years ago. If they get it right and Randle regains 75% of his 2021 form, they have a #2 option to play off Ja that fits right in with the rest of their roster - Bane and JJJ as floor spacers/defenders, and hopefully Zhaire Williams develops as a 3 and D wing. If you get it wrong and he's Pelicans Julius Randle he's still not a bad player. Harrison Barnes, Tobias Harris and Jeremi Grant could all fit this description, but I feel the upside of Randle is higher than those other 3 players.
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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Memphis Grizzlies 

Post#62 » by Duke4life831 » Sun May 15, 2022 6:56 pm

KhalilS wrote:It's really hard to pinpoint a single position for them to improve.

They dont really have a positional weakness, their issue is going to be trying to find ways to turn some of these 50 cent pieces into a dollar. They have their #1 set, and 4-15 they're as good as any team in the league. But they dont have a legit #2 on their team. I dont ever see JJJ being that guy and I think Bane most likely peaks at being a really good 3rd option.
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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Memphis Grizzlies 

Post#63 » by srhcan » Sun May 15, 2022 8:26 pm

BarbaGrizz wrote:
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Pelon chingon wrote:Boss move would be to trade Morant for maximum value. He does trick moves but is a complete sieve on defense.

Morant for Fred + OG

Starting lineup:
Fred
Bane
OG
JJJ
Adams

Jones, Brooks, Anderson, Clarke, etc. off the bench

Looks like real contender now

There´s no amount of picks you can add to make this trade fair.

yeah I agree it is quite unfair to Raptors giving up 2 starters (Fred & OG) who are defensive studs for 1 starter (Ja) who is defensively challenged. But Raptors have a log jam at forwards and needs to change things a bit.
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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Memphis Grizzlies 

Post#64 » by Mak » Sun May 15, 2022 8:33 pm

This team acts like it they already promised 3 championships in the next 5 years. I would not be surprised if they took a step back and finished 5/6.
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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Memphis Grizzlies 

Post#65 » by Bayside » Sun May 15, 2022 9:03 pm

Mak wrote:This team acts like it they already promised 3 championships in the next 5 years. I would not be surprised if they took a step back and finished 5/6.



I agree with you. It would not surprize me if they implode a bit. Dynasaty talk rubbish etc. If they have challenges the mental fortitude doesnt seem to be there.
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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Memphis Grizzlies 

Post#66 » by BarbaGrizz » Sun May 15, 2022 9:08 pm

srhcan wrote:
BarbaGrizz wrote:
srhcan wrote:Morant for Fred + OG

Starting lineup:
Fred
Bane
OG
JJJ
Adams

Jones, Brooks, Anderson, Clarke, etc. off the bench

Looks like real contender now

There´s no amount of picks you can add to make this trade fair.

yeah I agree it is quite unfair to Raptors giving up 2 starters (Fred & OG) who are defensive studs for 1 starter (Ja) who is defensively challenged. But Raptors have a log jam at forwards and needs to change things a bit.

I see, and we definitely can help with this logjam. Here´s my counter: Adams + Melton + #29 for Siakam
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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Memphis Grizzlies 

Post#67 » by floppymoose » Sun May 15, 2022 9:37 pm

MEM is just a scary scary team. I had them rated 2nd best in nba for most of the season, and then towards the end of the season it really became a race for first between them the Suns, and Boston. They have a really bright future.
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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Memphis Grizzlies 

Post#68 » by ken6199 » Sun May 15, 2022 10:58 pm

If Morant didn't get inquired or Klay didn't repeat his usual game 6 I saw a lot of the 2015 Warriors in them. A young core firing on all cylinders, plus a little luck on the health (both themselves and the opponent side), they came out of nowhere, won a chip, then started a dynasty. In this league the win/lose margin can be very thin.

Memphis will be a title favorite next year and a force for the next 3-4 years.
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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Memphis Grizzlies 

Post#69 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Sun May 15, 2022 11:02 pm

Ja Improving his jumper would open up the floor for the rest of the team. thats first things first and pertinent to the ceiling of this team.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Memphis Grizzlies 

Post#70 » by srhcan » Mon May 16, 2022 2:23 am

BarbaGrizz wrote:
srhcan wrote:
BarbaGrizz wrote:There´s no amount of picks you can add to make this trade fair.

yeah I agree it is quite unfair to Raptors giving up 2 starters (Fred & OG) who are defensive studs for 1 starter (Ja) who is defensively challenged. But Raptors have a log jam at forwards and needs to change things a bit.

I see, and we definitely can help with this logjam. Here´s my counter: Adams + Melton + #29 for Siakam

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