Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Phoenix Suns

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4 Questions

Poll ended at Wed May 18, 2022 2:09 am

Q1: Keep the GM
124
20%
Q1: Fire the GM
14
2%
Q2: Keep the coach
126
20%
Q2: Fire the coach
21
3%
Q3: Performed better than expected
22
4%
Q3: Performed as expected
31
5%
Q3: Performed worse than expected
109
18%
Q4: Rising Team
21
3%
Q4: Treadmill Team
70
11%
Q4: Waning Team
77
13%
 
Total votes: 615

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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Phoenix Suns 

Post#61 » by Bruin » Mon May 16, 2022 3:38 am

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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Phoenix Suns 

Post#62 » by Bruin » Mon May 16, 2022 3:40 am

GoranTragic wrote:After this performance ANYONE that gives Ayton a new contract is a **** idiot.

My response is a resounding no thank you. Trade him on draft day and get a decent pick.

What team is gonna trade a draft pick just a few days before he enters Free agency?

Idek what kinda pick he’d be able to get anyways. Cant really see any of the top 10 picks being available for a guy like him. Teams would much rather take a rookie on a rookie contract than Ayton
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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Phoenix Suns 

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Post#64 » by TeamTragic » Mon May 16, 2022 3:41 am

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What a joke. Why not talk about how you want a 5-year max?
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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Phoenix Suns 

Post#65 » by Beethoven » Mon May 16, 2022 3:42 am

I'd hate to be a suns fan lol
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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Phoenix Suns 

Post#66 » by 510TWSS » Mon May 16, 2022 3:43 am

That post game workout flex over the Dubz in the regular season will live on in infamy lmao
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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Phoenix Suns 

Post#67 » by pj0tr » Mon May 16, 2022 3:44 am

I don't really know what they do. You can't just run a team back after a loss like this.

But they are stuck with a still very young core aside from CP3.

Essentially the Suns are in basketball hell now. A super young core that everyone knows will never win anything.

Honestly? Everyone, including Booker and CP3, should be considered tradeable.
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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Phoenix Suns 

Post#68 » by drewbreeze » Mon May 16, 2022 3:47 am

Suns shouldn't need Ayton to carry the load with the backcourt they have. What about the fact Bridges/Crowder and the coaching staff couldn't limit Doncic at all.

It's probably the coaches fault and maybe Ayton sticks around once Monty is gone. He doesn't really have a pedigree beside the last 2 years.
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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Phoenix Suns 

Post#69 » by TeamTragic » Mon May 16, 2022 3:47 am

pj0tr wrote:I don't really know what they do. You can't just run a team back after a loss like this.

But they are stuck with a still very young core aside from CP3.

Essentially the Suns are in basketball hell now. A super young core that everyone knows will never win anything.

Honestly? Everyone, including Booker and CP3, should be considered tradeable.


Exactly. Book looks checked out on this team.

Make everyone available.
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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Phoenix Suns 

Post#70 » by John Murdoch » Mon May 16, 2022 3:50 am

This was Pauls last shot at a ring
Magic#1 wrote:We have won two playoff games in two years. If we decide to keep this team for the next two years, maybe it will feel like we won a series.
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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Phoenix Suns 

Post#71 » by spanishninja » Mon May 16, 2022 3:51 am

Beethoven wrote:I'd hate to be a suns fan lol
what's the worst that can happen? we already have experience as fans on 19-win teams.

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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Phoenix Suns 

Post#72 » by spanishninja » Mon May 16, 2022 3:55 am

GoranTragic wrote:
pj0tr wrote:I don't really know what they do. You can't just run a team back after a loss like this.

But they are stuck with a still very young core aside from CP3.

Essentially the Suns are in basketball hell now. A super young core that everyone knows will never win anything.

Honestly? Everyone, including Booker and CP3, should be considered tradeable.


Exactly. Book looks checked out on this team.

Make everyone available.
i would hate for Book to leave the Suns under these circumstances. it doesnt look good though. i just hope he doesnt go to the lakers.

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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Phoenix Suns 

Post#73 » by TeamTragic » Mon May 16, 2022 3:57 am

spanishninja wrote:
GoranTragic wrote:
pj0tr wrote:I don't really know what they do. You can't just run a team back after a loss like this.

But they are stuck with a still very young core aside from CP3.

Essentially the Suns are in basketball hell now. A super young core that everyone knows will never win anything.

Honestly? Everyone, including Booker and CP3, should be considered tradeable.


Exactly. Book looks checked out on this team.

Make everyone available.
i would hate for Book to leave the Suns under these circumstances. it doesnt look good though. i just hope he doesnt go to the lakers.

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Who knows right? Maybe he just wants to showboat and talk a big game.

His attitude might be perfect for a pretender.
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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Phoenix Suns 

Post#74 » by pj0tr » Mon May 16, 2022 3:58 am

GoranTragic wrote:
spanishninja wrote:
GoranTragic wrote:
Exactly. Book looks checked out on this team.

Make everyone available.
i would hate for Book to leave the Suns under these circumstances. it doesnt look good though. i just hope he doesnt go to the lakers.

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Who knows right? Maybe he just wants to showboat and talk a big game.

His attitude might be perfect for a pretender.


I feel pretty comfortable in saying tonight showed Booker will never win a title as the best player on a team.
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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Phoenix Suns 

Post#75 » by TeamTragic » Mon May 16, 2022 4:00 am

pj0tr wrote:
GoranTragic wrote:
spanishninja wrote:i would hate for Book to leave the Suns under these circumstances. it doesnt look good though. i just hope he doesnt go to the lakers.

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Who knows right? Maybe he just wants to showboat and talk a big game.

His attitude might be perfect for a pretender.


I feel pretty comfortable in saying tonight showed Booker will never win a title as the best player on a team.


Sadly you are right and the proof is in his performance.
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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Phoenix Suns 

Post#76 » by garrick » Mon May 16, 2022 4:02 am

Regardless of what happened in game 7 the Suns will need to resign Ayton as cheap as possible because they aren't going to be able to get a young athletic center like him and he's a big reason for the Suns success.

What will need to be worked on next season is to think about how to revolve the offense around Ayton a bit more in the low post because he's almost an afterthought when it comes to scoring and his offensive development was sacrificed for team success.

Maybe the Suns don't win 60+ games in the regular season if we make a concerted effort to go through Ayton more but it should bring greater success in games when you have a really hard time scoring on jumpers.

Aside from that they need to shore up the back up PG and try to get a taller more athletic power forward or a slashing forward like they had in Oubre.
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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Phoenix Suns 

Post#77 » by spanishninja » Mon May 16, 2022 4:02 am

GoranTragic wrote:
pj0tr wrote:
GoranTragic wrote:
Who knows right? Maybe he just wants to showboat and talk a big game.

His attitude might be perfect for a pretender.


I feel pretty comfortable in saying tonight showed Booker will never win a title as the best player on a team.


Sadly you are right and the proof is in his performance.
it's funny because he has been the guy we have identified with this franchise, more so than Paul. there were talks of him becoming best Sun ever if we won a ring. maybe this disappointing performance does make him symbolic of the Suns.

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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Phoenix Suns 

Post#78 » by Big J » Mon May 16, 2022 4:03 am

I just don’t see how they win a title with CP3 on the team. I’d try to trade him for an expiring if possible and retool.
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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Phoenix Suns 

Post#79 » by Archerbro » Mon May 16, 2022 4:03 am

garrick wrote:Regardless of what happened in game 7 the Suns will need to resign Ayton as cheap as possible because they aren't going to be able to get a young athletic center like him and he's a big reason for the Suns success.

What will need to be worked on next season is to think about how to revolve the offense around Ayton a bit more in the low post because he's almost an afterthought when it comes to scoring and his offensive development was sacrificed for team success.

Maybe the Suns don't win 60+ games in the regular season if we make a concerted effort to go through Ayton more but it should bring greater success in games when you have a really hard time scoring on jumpers.

Aside from that they need to shore up the back up PG and try to get a taller more athletic power forward or a slashing forward like they had in Oubre.


I think the market for ayton is the max (he will be a RFA). suns will have to decide if that's worth it or if they decide to ship him out and get some value back.

I just can see alot of teams throwing money at him, he is definitely worth the risk IMO
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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Phoenix Suns 

Post#80 » by TeamTragic » Mon May 16, 2022 4:04 am

garrick wrote:Regardless of what happened in game 7 the Suns will need to resign Ayton as cheap as possible because they aren't going to be able to get a young athletic center like him and he's a big reason for the Suns success.

What will need to be worked on next season is to think about how to revolve the offense around Ayton a bit more in the low post because he's almost an afterthought when it comes to scoring and his offensive development was sacrificed for team success.

Maybe the Suns don't win 60+ games in the regular season if we make a concerted effort to go through Ayton more but it should bring greater success in games when you have a really hard time scoring on jumpers.

Aside from that they need to shore up the back up PG and try to get a taller more athletic power forward or a slashing forward like they had in Oubre.


Ayton is not coming back. Either him or Monty will not be on this team.

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