This board really needs to apologize to Andrew Wiggins

[YourBuddy]

Double standards? Butler left the Wolves for teams with culture and since then made the finals once and is on the verge of making it again. Both times as the #1 option.

You literally said the Wolves chased him out of town because he tried to change the culture. Pat Bev comes in changes the culture, isn’t run out of town, wins the same amount as Butler did here, but he is a clown. Your standards are all over the place. Considering the Suns logo I’m guessing this is just you lashing out at Pat Bev.

Suuuure. Pat Bev changed it lmao. Whatever you say bud.

Btw, Wolves current success has more to do with Ant being a rising superstar than Pat Bev playing back up PG.

I agree witb Pat Bevs comments about CP3 being a cone. Not sure why I would lash out.

You really are just a casual then, Pat Bev has been a starter the majority of the season

I’m not sure why you are lashing out then either.

[Almond2Oak]

This thread is ugly, like really ugly for many folks. Wiggins is over paid, correct, does he need an apology, no, with that said I’d take Wiggins over Westbrook, Harden, or Ben F’n Simmons. Hell the comments in here are ridiculous, will Wiggins ever be looked at like a superstar? No, but that said I’d take his former ‘#1’ pick 6 days a week and twice on Sunday over Fultz, Bennett, Oden, Bargnani, Bogut, Simmons, Zion’s who all went #1 since 05’ anyone saying otherwise is clueless.

[eckles]

I would still take Zion over Wiggins.
Heck I would even take Ben Simmons and Bogut over wiggins
So therefore I am clueless

[michaelm]

Wiggins is a good player if you define his role correctly. He’s a long, fairly strong, lengthy man defender. He’s a great athlete with a good jump shot.

Now his processor as a player can run a bit slow. I think GSW brought him along as a defender well, as his off-ball tendencies have improved quite a bit. It certainly helps having a role in the offense that requires less decision-making. He’s a play finisher, not a playmaker. He’s still at least a little lazy and a little boneheaded, and he’s certainly overpaid, but getting a 20-25mil player for an extra 10-15mil short term isn’t the worst thing ever if you can afford it. They can.

Particularly with Kuminga thrown in. The choices otherwise were DeLo and no-one.

Imo being next to Draymond and being directed by Draymond helps his defense as well.

Very happy to have him on the team.

[Duffman100]

He was drafted #1 overall. People were on him for his level of efficiency, play and effort for being touted the next superstar and a #1 option.

He has settled into a complimentary role as the 4th or 5th best player on a good team and we're suppose to apologize? Huh?

[kenwood3333]

On a per dollar basis he is damn good relative to Gobert.

[Myth]

I don’t recall many calling him a bust. He was criticized for being overpaid and not a well rounded as a player, which was true at the time and therefore fair IMO. I also don’t remember everybody saying Minny won that trade. I couldn’t believe Minny would include that pick for a guy who was also pretty one dimensional. I think many looked at it as a desperation move by the Wolves to keep Towns happy by bringing in his buddy and overpaid to do that.

You dont remember? To any of that? Because both of those things happened a lot

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Looks to me most denied he was a bust and more people claimed the Warriors won the trade.

[Gasolina]

He’s a good roleplayer who is paid like a star.

Basically Mikal Bridges but worse on defense and more of a threat to drive on offense. He’s appropriately rated and did not deserve to start on the all star team.

[rzzzzz]

I know that Sam Hinkie really dug him. Took him all over the city when he was here for his pre-draft tryout. Told him he’d love to acquire him for the team at some point. Definitely would have traded Simmons for him years ago. (Except I don’t think Silver would have awarded the team the #1 pick if they hadn’t just dumped him for the Colangelo regime.)

[wolves_89]

Wiggins biggest issues in Minnesota were his incredibly slow development, him being miscast as a guy who could carry a team, and him getting an undeserved contract. He was never a truly terrible player, he just never came close to providing star level production. As far as development, he showed small incremental improvements most years, but never made any significant leaps in performance. This was extremely frustrating since he had all the tools to make a big jump. The final straw for Wolves fans was him getting a 5 year max deal and then never being able to perform at a level equal to the contract.

It's good he's settled into being a solid complementary player with the Warriors, but he is not a star and pretty clearly deserves no apology.

[NeoWarriors]

I'm sorry, is he suddenly not the most mediocre highest paid poorest performing player on Minnesota anymore because he's been ok at golden state? Didn't realise he's now in hindsight playing good defense at the wolves now

He took the cheque and mailed it in. The fact he's not performing and doing the small things on a title contender still screams he didn't care. So No. Not apologising. We still did well to kick his leech ass to the curb

Maybe it's Minnesota. Culture is more impactful than you think. Butler got ran out of town for trying to build a culture in Minnesota. Jokes on them.

Why didn’t Pat Bev get run out of town?

New ownership. New front office. New coach. Completely changed the culture in Minnesota. You'll be amazed what a competent owner and front office will do for a team. Look at the Warriors before Joe Lacob bought the team. They are finally doing things right in Minnesota.

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[cupcakesnake]

I'm sorry, Andrew.

[cupcakesnake]

I bought a Wiggins jersey when he was with MIN... I owe him nothing more than that

I still have a pair of Wiggins signature shoes. adidas crazylight 2.5 with a big goofy AW with a Canadian maple leaf inside.

[cupcakesnake]

One interesting development is that Wiggs has really been rebounding the ball in the playoffs. Averaging 7 boards per game in the playoffs and looking active. I always used his low rebounding numbers as further evidence of his low motor.

[Godymas]

apologize for what

he was supposed to be a generational prospect and instead he was an inefficient #1 guy on a bad team

now he's a slightly more efficient #3 because he's able to sink 1 more 3 a game due to playing with Steph Curry and became possibly the worst All Star starter ever and he deserves an apology because he's finally using the things that made him a generational prospect correctly on defense?

[Statlanta]

I'm not going to apologize because I didn't really go in on the bust label. I don't think he developed in Minnesota because they didn't have the talent to get him to the playoffs, where young players like Anthony Edwards experience adversity, when they acquired him via trade. The Timberwolves couldn't even get an All-NBA player in Kevin Love to the playoffs.

He has a great supporting cast and clear basketball tools by being a #1 pick. Of course he was going to do well in a good environment.

[PhilBlackson]

Sorry that I still think you're overpaid Andrew.

[WarriorGM]

This board will apologize to Andrew Wiggins just before the Player Comparisons board acknowledges that Stephen Curry is a better player than LeBron James.

[UcanUwill]

Will this be another "Chris Paul is schooling Luka'' thread?

[FNQ]

I don’t recall many calling him a bust. He was criticized for being overpaid and not a well rounded as a player, which was true at the time and therefore fair IMO. I also don’t remember everybody saying Minny won that trade. I couldn’t believe Minny would include that pick for a guy who was also pretty one dimensional. I think many looked at it as a desperation move by the Wolves to keep Towns happy by bringing in his buddy and overpaid to do that.

You dont remember? To any of that? Because both of those things happened a lot

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Looks to me most denied he was a bust and more people claimed the Warriors won the trade.

one of those is a wiretap headline

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