AussieCeltic wrote:SerialChiller wrote:Patches Perry wrote:Officiating sucked for both teams but I've never seen points retroactively wiped off the board several minutes later on an out of bounds call. I thought they just reviewed 2 or 3. Weird for it to show up in a game 7.
This! That was ridiculous and I've never seen that before either, only a 3 changed to a 2, but out of bounds minutes later? Get out of here...
Just because you guys don’t know the rules, doesn’t mean it’s wrong. He was out of bounds on the shot. If he was out of bounds a few steps before it wouldn’t be reviewable. As it’s on the shot, it’s reviewable and the right call.
You guys are more mad about them making the right call, than not. It’s like you’d rather the 3 count when he was clearly out of bounds. Insane
We generally don't see made shots changed based on whether the shooter was inbounds or not, so I see no reason to be mad at people for not knowing.
What triggers the auto replay is cited below, whether it is 2 or 3, but it also clarifies that when they review those, they also review other things cited below also. So it certainly states that when they are reviewing for 2/3 they can (should?) also review out of bounds.
Statlanta wrote:I know that side step is allowed(Kyrie/Harden grandfathered it in) but I would have called travel even before the ambiguous out of bounds call.
They can't review for a travel in the auto review though (see below)
Backcountry wrote:If the refs miss a 3-pointer that should have been a 2 or vice-versa, then that needs to be corrected. But to remove points because the refs missed a call that should have stopped play is just a bad rule. Like others have said: what about "ball-in-the-cylinder" plays? Do they retroactively review these, too? Out-of-bounds?
Once the ball goes back into play that should be it, otherwise you should erase all points scored after the missed infraction and reset the game clock. Since Boston went on a 9-1 run immediately after Strus's shot, they would have had that removed and the score set back to 56-51. Otherwise leave it alone, and blame the officials.
https://official.nba.com/rule-no-13-instant-replay/What triggers auto review
Instant replay will be immediately triggered by the Replay Center Official in the following situations:
The Replay Center Official is not reasonably certain whether
(i) a successful field goal was scored correctly as a 2-point or 3-point field goal during the first 46 minutes of regulation or first three minutes of any overtime period, or
(ii) in the case of a called shooting foul at any time during a game, the Replay Center Official is not reasonably certain whether the player was attempting a 2-point or 3-point field goal.
NOTE: If the Replay Center Official did not trigger instant replay in accordance with Section I-b(1) above, the on-court game officials retain the right to independently trigger instant replay (See Section I-a(6)) within the time constraints set forth in Section II-f(1) below
Section 1-a (6)
Officials are not reasonably certain at any time during a game whether (i) a successful field goal was scored correctly as a 2-point or 3-point field goal, or (ii) in the case of a called shooting foul, whether the player was attempting a 2-point or 3-point field goal; provided that the Replay Center Official did not trigger instant replay to review these matters as permitted by Section I-b(1)
Time to review
the review must take place at the next timeout or period break following the basket in question. If the next break is halftime, the review must take place prior to the officials leaving the court. Following the 2nd mandatory timeout in the 4th period and any overtime period, the review must take place at the next clock stoppage, including immediately upon a successful basket when the clock stops in the last two minutes. If a successful 2-point/3-point field goal is not reviewed in accordance with the foregoing timing rules, the play can no longer be reviewed once the ball is inbound and touched on the court, a personal foul is assessed or violation is whistled.
What else is checked:
If an instant replay review is triggered as described in Section I-a(6) above, the Replay Center Official and on-court official(s) would review the video to determine the following issues:
Whether the successful field goal was scored correctly as a 2-point or 3-point field Prior to the 2nd mandatory timeout in the 4th period, the review must take place at the next timeout or period break following the basket in question. If the next break is halftime, the review must take place prior to the officials leaving the court. Following the 2nd mandatory timeout in the 4th period and any overtime period, the review must take place at the next clock stoppage, including immediately upon a successful basket when the clock stops in the last two minutes. If a successful 2-point/3-point field goal is not reviewed in accordance with the foregoing timing rules, the play can no longer be reviewed once the ball is inbound and touched on the court, a personal foul is assessed or violation is whistled.
Whether the shooter fouled was attempting a 2-point or 3-point field goal. During the entire game, the review must take place prior to the shooter releasing the first free throw attempt.
If the shot was timely, whether the shooter committed a boundary line violation or the ball touched out-of-bounds prior to entering the basket or, in the case of a foul, whether the player fouled committed a boundary line violation. For purposes of this review, the Replay Center Official would look only at the position of the player’s feet at the moment they last touched the floor immediately prior to (or, if applicable, during) the release of the shot or the foul (as applicable).
Whether the shot clock expired before the ball left the shooter’s hand or the foul occurred.
Whether any unsportsmanlike acts or unnecessary contact occurred.