The Atlanta Hawks Are Preparing A Big Offer For Rudy Gobert?

[vxmike]

I like the deal for both teams and think it is fair but if I was a Hawks fan, I would be concerned about Trae and an aging Gobert on a supermax. Is the Hawks ownership the kind that is willing to go deep into the tax or if this doesn't work will they be forced into attaching assets in salary dump and a dissatisfied Trae a few years from now. I do think Trae and Gobert has great potential but it is very big risk if you don't have a very deep pocketed and committed owner.

Way too much for ATL to give up. I have Gobert as negative value on that contract.

[TheLand13]

Why trade for Gobert when you have Cappella unless the price is only Gallo

Do you... not watch basketball? Like, at all?

[Doranku]

How would the Hawks fill the rest of their roster out?

Trae
Bogi
Hunter
?
Gobert

Wright
Lou Williams
TLC
Gallinari
Okongwu

That... doesn't look very good at all.

[DroseReturnChi]

Trae and Gobert could be a really special pairing -- covering perfectly for the other players shortcomings.

And in the East, Gobert is less likely to be played off the floor in the postseason since he'd matchup well opposite elite bigs like Embiid, Giannis, Adebayo and Siakam.

one of the worst two guys that cannot shoot. 3pt is king you cant sacrifice it. I would target someone more versatile like siakam.

[DroseReturnChi]

if im utah, i want collins capella, okongwu and 16. idk how teams can watch guys get targeted like this and say " lets trade for kevin huerter"

I would love to watch a lineup of
trae
bogdanovic
hunter
royce oneil
gobert.

the passion of trae and gobert would amazing to watch as well.

okongwu and capella will be better than gobert in the future. you dont throw the entire farm for a non factor. seems awfully similar to vucevic trade getting fleeced. goberts prime will have ended soon.

[Lockdown504090]

if im utah, i want collins capella, okongwu and 16. idk how teams can watch guys get targeted like this and say " lets trade for kevin huerter"

I would love to watch a lineup of
trae
bogdanovic
hunter
royce oneil
gobert.

the passion of trae and gobert would amazing to watch as well.

okongwu and capella will be better than gobert in the future. you dont throw the entire farm for a non factor. seems awfully similar to vucevic trade getting fleeced. goberts prime will have ended soon.

I think we are underestimating gobert's impact due to personnel of the jazz. if you give gobert deandre hunter and royce and bogdan(who i dont think is a cone like the guys on utah) I think its way harder to exploit gobert being a help defender. also, offensively trae will spoonfeed better in the playoffs than the jazz could as well.

Gobert being bad in the playoffs because he teammates defend is a similar thing as saying lebron shot badly in the 2015 finals because he had no offensive spacing and was forced out of his comfort zone imo. if you give him guys that will rotate, he is among the most impactful defenders of this generation.

[Chronz]

I did this trade in 2k. Lots of my trades end up happening in real life

[wegotthabeet]

if im utah, i want collins capella, okongwu and 16. idk how teams can watch guys get targeted like this and say " lets trade for kevin huerter"

I would love to watch a lineup of
trae
bogdanovic
hunter
royce oneil
gobert.

the passion of trae and gobert would amazing to watch as well.

adding Okongwu would be too much for Atlanta in my opinion. I'd want to surround Trae with 4 elite or potentially elite defenders, so I need to keep Okongwu and Hunter in a Gobert trade.

Trae
-
Hunter
Okongwu
Gobert

if they can add the right 2 guard to those 4 that could be a very dangerous team.

Gobert/Okongwu spacing is awful.

Good point. They might have to build the deal around Okongwu for Gobert instead or trade Okongwu in a seperate deal for an elite wing defender. As long as they can acquire Gobert for either Collins or Okongwu (not both) the other can be used to upgrade the wing.

Trade 1: Collins + Capella + 16 to Portland for Hart + the 7th (Dyson Daniels)

Trade 2: Okongwu + Huerter + Gallo for Gobert

Trae
Daniels
Hart
Hunter
Gobert

[LAL1947]

I need Shams or Woj to eviscerate these hacks with real journalism and news.

By "real journalism," do you mean getting a text with the exact details from an agent?

Y'know what? I've always wondered why RealGM gives those two free publicity with thread titles. I mean, thread titles for trades and other stuff always get either of their names put at the start to show that it's official. The Admins should reach out to see if Woj and Shams are interested in helping with the cost of the forum's servers in return for this privilege. Or else, threaten to just use "Official" or "Confirmed" instead of their names.

[MalonesElbows]

adding Okongwu would be too much for Atlanta in my opinion. I'd want to surround Trae with 4 elite or potentially elite defenders, so I need to keep Okongwu and Hunter in a Gobert trade.

Trae
-
Hunter
Okongwu
Gobert

if they can add the right 2 guard to those 4 that could be a very dangerous team.

Gobert/Okongwu spacing is awful.

Good point. They might have to build the deal around Okongwu for Gobert instead or trade Okongwu in a seperate deal for an elite wing defender. As long as they can acquire Gobert for either Collins or Okongwu (not both) the other can be used to upgrade the wing.

Trade 1: Collins + Capella + 16 to Portland for Hart + the 7th (Dyson Daniels)

Trade 2: Okongwu + Huerter + Gallo for Gobert

Trae
Daniels
Hart
Hunter
Gobert

Jazz wuold take trade 2 no doubt.

[Warriorfan]

Why trade for Gobert when you have Cappella unless the price is only Gallo

Do you... not watch basketball? Like, at all?

Feel free to see names and salaries of 3 of 4 centers in final four of the playoffs. A Gobert is less relevant in the future.

[Jamaaliver]

Why trade for Gobert when you have Cappella unless the price is only Gallo

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The Jazz have...one of the best defensive players of the generation, but not a lot of defensive help around him. They have one of the three best centers in the league, and he’s in his prime.

Gobert is a game-changer. You are guaranteed a playoff team with Gobert. That’s how good a player he is in the regular season. But, this current core has reached a ceiling it hasn’t been able to punch through.

Gobert has been very durable to this point, and this past season he was as good as ever. He was easily the best defender in the league, despite voters’ insistence on not giving him what should have been his fourth DPOY.

The Athletic

[scrabbarista]

I really hope we get a Rudy/Trae pairing. Rudy has been unfairly maligned on both ends of the floor for much of his career, and I'd love to see him flourish in a suitable environment. I don't think he's going to fall off very soon, barring a serious injury, of course. He just averaged 16 ppg, leading the league in TS%, while having a lead guard who almost literally never passed him the ball. Put him in Atlanta, with an elite table-setter, and he could beat his career-high in ppg by five next season.

On the Jazz side, all I know is that every time I watched Capela last year, he looked like he'd fallen off of not one but two cliffs from the previous season. I'd be wary of counting on him as a starter-level player going forward.

[dc]

Yeah, Gobert is very much legit and most likely just didn't win DPOY yet again due to voter fatigue. His impact is very real. Problems now are that he's 30, is owed A LOT of money over the next 4 years and he's just never shown the ability to punish small ball lineups outside of some offensive rebounds.

Very curious to see how Ainge moves forward with his current hand, knowing that the core has probably reached its ceiling.

[Sothron]

The Hawks aren't giving up the farm for 31 year old Gobert. A reasonable trade for him, sure, I can see that because he's a slight upgrade over Capela. But that's all he is.

[TheLand13]

if im utah, i want collins capella, okongwu and 16. idk how teams can watch guys get targeted like this and say " lets trade for kevin huerter"

I would love to watch a lineup of
trae
bogdanovic
hunter
royce oneil
gobert.

the passion of trae and gobert would amazing to watch as well.

okongwu and capella will be better than gobert in the future. you dont throw the entire farm for a non factor. seems awfully similar to vucevic trade getting fleeced. goberts prime will have ended soon.

I think we are underestimating gobert's impact due to personnel of the jazz.

No, trust me when I say this, that is not happening.

The guy you're responding to just has no idea what he's talking about.

[Pointgod]

The Hawks aren't giving up the farm for 31 year old Gobert. A reasonable trade for him, sure, I can see that because he's a slight upgrade over Capela. But that's all he is.

As a Hawks fan what you think of the Capela, Huerter, 16th pick proposal?

[Threezus]

The Hawks aren't giving up the farm for 31 year old Gobert. A reasonable trade for him, sure, I can see that because he's a slight upgrade over Capela. But that's all he is.

As a Hawks fan what you think of the Capela, Huerter, 16th pick proposal?

I would make that deal 100% of the time and not think twice about it. As long as Trae, Hunter, Collins, and Onyeka aren't in the deal for rudy im pretty much ok making the deal most of the time.

Heck i can even be ok with a Onyeka, Galo, Huerter, 16 deal Then we can trade Capela + Hornets pick + Bogi for a big upgrade at SG to finish the lineup.

[Texas Chuck]

The Hawks aren't giving up the farm for 31 year old Gobert. A reasonable trade for him, sure, I can see that because he's a slight upgrade over Capela. But that's all he is.

Yeah I don't think the Hawks are already making plans to trade for Gobert in 2 years either. I think they would much rather trade for him now.

Why lie about his age lol?

[JujitsuFlip]

The Hawks aren't giving up the farm for 31 year old Gobert. A reasonable trade for him, sure, I can see that because he's a slight upgrade over Capela. But that's all he is.

He's currently 29, wtheck?