Lets not overlook the fact... Jayson Tatum exposed

Drax · Post #61 » by **Drax** » Sat Jun 18, 2022 5:42 pm

The only thing that is exposed, is what he has to work on during the offseason. Work on ball handling in tight spaces and maybe work on the first step.

ITYSL · Post #62 » by **ITYSL** » Sat Jun 18, 2022 5:43 pm

I will never understand the mindset that making the Finals and losing somehow exposes a team or player as being worse than other teams or players that performed poorly in earlier rounds of the playoffs, or who didn't make the playoffs at all

Tatum definitely has lots of room to improve, though.

Pennebaker · Post #63 » by **Pennebaker** » Sat Jun 18, 2022 5:46 pm

Optms wrote:13 points in a deciding game 6 in Boston. 2 points in the second half. And this is the guy Boston has declared as their franchise player? Larry Bird and Bill Russell rolling over in their graves.

I don't wanna see any Tatum "Top 10" Player lists anytime soon. He's fools gold.

How can a Lakers fan criticize him for his commitment to the school of Kobe Bryant? Kobe scored 1 point in the 2nd half of a Game 7 loss against the Suns in 2006.

Kobe's stats in the 2nd half of that elimination game: 1 point, 1 rebound, 1 turnover, 0 assists, 0 steals, 0 blocks

But Kobe wasn't fool's gold either.

Learning how to be a winning leader is a process that takes time.

Also consider this: Michael Jordan struggled for years in the playoffs before he finally played in his first finals game at age 28. Tatum has already led a team to the finals at age 24.

Zvaart · Post #64 » by **Zvaart** » Sat Jun 18, 2022 5:46 pm

Iirc giannis was exposed the year prior of his title.

Tatum will be fine.

ThumbsUpBaby · Post #65 » by **ThumbsUpBaby** » Sat Jun 18, 2022 6:00 pm

A 24 year old in his first Finals before hitting his prime is considered being exposed? Seems like your expectations were too great. No one called him the best player or a top 5. As a matter of fact, there were still arguments whether he's in the top 10 as of now. But he still had a great overall playoff run and season, and finally hit his first roadblock as the #1 option. He'll learn and get better from this.

VanWest82 · Post #66 » by **VanWest82** » Sat Jun 18, 2022 6:13 pm

Remember when KD was "exposed" in 2012 vs. Lebron? Steph, Klay, and Draymond are tough to beat. Ask Lebron.

But this did feel a little Raptors DeRozany. It's so special getting to watch your guy make leaps and topple other great players in your conference, and yet...

How does the leadership dynamic work moving forward?
Are you comfortable coming back next year with the ball handling unchanged?
Thoughts about Harden's brain break in the Finals and parallels to this Celtics team?
Was he just hurt?

Tatum needs to stop reverting into Rudy Guy but he might be my early pick for MVP next year unless Luka decides to get in shape.

What a crazy year. And give some **** credit to Wiggins.

Dubnation · Post #67 » by **Dubnation** » Sat Jun 18, 2022 6:21 pm

Jerry Maine wrote:Tatum should be happy to be exposed

Curry was exposed and just won his 4th rings and a finals MVP to boot

whatisacenter wrote:congrats Celtics fans! your guy got a "he has been exposed" thread which means he will eventually become league MVP and NBA champion.

Profound23 · Post #68 » by **Profound23** » Sat Jun 18, 2022 6:27 pm

svart wrote:Iirc giannis was exposed the year prior of his title.

Tatum will be fine.

Exactly! When Giannis lost to Toronto he was "exposed."

Same goes for when he lost to Miami in the bubble. Curry was "exposed" the last few years. KD is now "exposed every year." People don't understand the meaning or just use it to put down a player they dislike. Only one team wins the entire thing, everyone is exposed I guess.

I will agree with one thing, Tatum was highly overrated because he has a complete team around him. This does not mean he won't reach league MVP status at any time in his career, it means he was crowned too early. Tatum can put up one 40 point game per series and people compare him to Kobe or whatever because when he struggles the rest of the team can bail him out. Just look at this Finals, if Tatum put up one 40 pt. game between games 4-6, this series is going to game 7 tomorrow night.

TrueFan420 · Post #69 » by **TrueFan420** » Sat Jun 18, 2022 6:29 pm

Optms wrote:13 points in a deciding game 6 in Boston. 2 points in the second half. And this is the guy Boston has declared as their franchise player? Larry Bird and Bill Russell rolling over in their graves.

I don't wanna see any Tatum "Top 10" Player lists anytime soon. He's fools gold.

Y’all need to stop trying to kill of Bird. The man is alive and well.

Post #70 » by **Jakay** » Sat Jun 18, 2022 6:29 pm

Getting exposed in the finals isn't exactly the worst thing.

The man's only 19 ffs.

a8bil · Post #71 » by **a8bil** » Sat Jun 18, 2022 6:36 pm

Pennebaker wrote:
Optms wrote:13 points in a deciding game 6 in Boston. 2 points in the second half. And this is the guy Boston has declared as their franchise player? Larry Bird and Bill Russell rolling over in their graves.

I don't wanna see any Tatum "Top 10" Player lists anytime soon. He's fools gold.

How can a Lakers fan criticize him for his commitment to the school of Kobe Bryant? Kobe scored 1 point in the 2nd half of a Game 7 loss against the Suns in 2006.

Kobe's stats in the 2nd half of that elimination game: 1 point, 1 rebound, 1 turnover, 0 assists, 0 steals, 0 blocks

But Kobe wasn't fool's gold either.

Learning how to be a winning leader is a process that takes time.

Also consider this: Michael Jordan struggled for years in the playoffs before he finally played in his first finals game at age 28. Tatum has already led a team to the finals at age 24.

Great sanity check post!

Dick Tate · Post #72 » by **Dick Tate** » Sat Jun 18, 2022 7:21 pm

Optms wrote:13 points in a deciding game 6 in Boston. 2 points in the second half. And this is the guy Boston has declared as their franchise player? Larry Bird and Bill Russell rolling over in their graves.

I don't wanna see any Tatum "Top 10" Player lists anytime soon. He's fools gold.

Would next season be too soon for you?
I don’t know if he’s top 10, so top 15. Seeing that you’ve been posting since 2009, I’m sure you’ve witnessed plenty of top 15 players up their game after being “exposed”.
At this point in your posting “career”, aren’t you above this level of troll post?

megarover · Post #73 » by **megarover** » Sat Jun 18, 2022 7:51 pm

Profound23 wrote:
svart wrote:Iirc giannis was exposed the year prior of his title.

Tatum will be fine.

Exactly! When Giannis lost to Toronto he was "exposed."

Same goes for when he lost to Miami in the bubble. Curry was "exposed" the last few years. KD is now "exposed every year." People don't understand the meaning or just use it to put down a player they dislike. Only one team wins the entire thing, everyone is exposed I guess.

I will agree with one thing, Tatum was highly overrated because he has a complete team around him. This does not mean he won't reach league MVP status at any time in his career, it means he was crowned too early. Tatum can put up one 40 point game per series and people compare him to Kobe or whatever because when he struggles the rest of the team can bail him out. Just look at this Finals, if Tatum put up one 40 pt. game between games 4-6, this series is going to game 7 tomorrow night.

mpoo_sin · Post #74 » by **mpoo_sin** » Sat Jun 18, 2022 7:59 pm

Jakay wrote:Getting exposed in the finals isn't exactly the worst thing.

The man's only 19 ffs.

Everyone! Let s get into the Hot Tub Timemachine!

Zvaart · Post #75 » by **Zvaart** » Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:05 pm

Jakay wrote:Getting exposed in the finals isn't exactly the worst thing.

The man's only 19 ffs.

You may be correct if you are talking about dick size in the metric system.

Pelly24 · Post #76 » by **Pelly24** » Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:30 pm

MAQ wrote:Tatum's inconsistency is a problem. I thought he was the next face of the league with Luka. He **** up that projection with his showing.

He struggled so much when he got to the rim. Is he nursing an ankle injury?

I gotta say, anyone who thought Tatum was up there with Luka is on one, no offense.

He is a far less consistent scorer and a much worse passer. Tatum is a top 10 guy. Luka is a guy with top 10 player ever potential.

Pharmcat · Post #77 » by **Pharmcat** » Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:34 pm

Pretty sure I had a thread on this already :wordyo:

Post #78 » by **floppymoose** » Sat Jun 18, 2022 9:04 pm

I don't know what happened to Tatum. I had him as one of the 4 MVP candidates (Tatum/Curry/Jokic/Embiid) who I all think were pretty close. I was expecting a lot more from him in the finals.

Woodsanity · Post #79 » by **Woodsanity** » Sat Jun 18, 2022 9:06 pm

Optms wrote:13 points in a deciding game 6 in Boston. 2 points in the second half. And this is the guy Boston has declared as their franchise player? Larry Bird and Bill Russell rolling over in their graves.

I don't wanna see any Tatum "Top 10" Player lists anytime soon. He's fools gold.

Been saying this for a long time already he isn't even a Jimmy Butler level player. Guys like tatum and booker are overrated and didn't deserve 1st all nba team. Neither are true superstars.

Woodsanity · Post #80 » by **Woodsanity** » Sat Jun 18, 2022 9:07 pm

floppymoose wrote:I don't know what happened to Tatum. I had him as one of the 4 MVP candidates (Tatum/Curry/Jokic/Embiid) who I all think were pretty close. I was expecting a lot more from him in the finals.

Which was a bad take since he is nowhere near any of those guys as players. Also I have no clue why you put Tatum over Giannis or even Luka. :noway: