Who should go all-in on Kevin Durant?

[baldur]

Phoenix or miami. I don't see any other destination that makes sense as much as these two teams. With Kevin durant you will have a short championship window, these teams have been in the finals, and conference finals very recently and their windows are already short with Chris Paul and Jimmy butler respectively, durant should be able elevate these teams to a better and truet contender.

What does Phoenix even have to offer? I don't see a package centering around Mikhail Bridges and some very late 1sts being even remotely close to getting it done.
For that matter, what does Miami have to offer? Tyler Herro plus some late 1sts? (assuming that Bam is untouchable). Neither team has the young assets or the draft picks to put together much of a trade package.

How do you know very late firsts they are going to be? Or for them to be top picks, should a team get durant and tank? If you are getting durant and aim to contend, those picks of course should be likely late firsts. What do you expect?

[Edvan88]

Phoenix or miami. I don't see any other destination that makes sense as much as these two teams. With Kevin durant you will have a short championship window, these teams have been in the finals, and conference finals very recently and their windows are already short with Chris Paul and Jimmy butler respectively, durant should be able elevate these teams to a better and truet contender.

What does Phoenix even have to offer? I don't see a package centering around Mikhail Bridges and some very late 1sts being even remotely close to getting it done.
For that matter, what does Miami have to offer? Tyler Herro plus some late 1sts? (assuming that Bam is untouchable). Neither team has the young assets or the draft picks to put together much of a trade package.

How do you know very late firsts they are going to be? Or for them to be top picks, should a team get durant and tank? If you are getting durant and aim to contend, those picks of course should be likely late firsts. What do you expect?

A top team can obtain picks from a tanking team through trades no?

[Bad-Thoma]

Considering they don't have their own picks and they're probably not going to get an equal return the Nets should do everything in their power to get Irving and Durant fully on board for another season. If they, along with Simmons, can somehow stay healthy and non toxic and at a minimum make real noise in the play-offs it would be help erase some of the stink.

You said non toxic with a Ben Simmons Kyrie Irving locker room? Lol

I didn't say it's likely to happen, just that it's likely their best option to try and run it back. I don't think Kyrie is going to change all of a sudden and be a leader and I honestly have no idea what the return of Ben Simmons looks like but it's probably better than selling low when tanking isn't even on the table.

[facothomas22]

I believe 76ers should go all-in.

Tobias Harris, Matisse Thybulle, Tyrese Maxey plus picks and swaps for Kevin Durant.

It works in the trade machine. 76ers time is now. The Process is over.

I like the idea of getting off the Harris contract. I guess giving up Tyrese Maxey might be okay if get they are able to trade for Patrick Beverly/Jordan Clarkson in a seperate package. Thybulle won't be a huge loss in the short term due to PJ Tucker being on the team. Overall I think Daryl Morey should go bold and do what it takes to get Kevin Durant(as long that doesn't include giving up half of the team).

[facothomas22]

Suns,76ers,Heat,Raptors,Pelicans

[facothomas22]

Phoenix, Miami and Philly are the obvious ones, but he’d be intriguing in Denver. He’d be able to age gracefully playing with Jokic.

Boston should also trade Brown for him, but they’ll sit on their hands

I am thinking the same about Denver, where else he can play all 4 remaining years with a MVP caliber player that is under contract for all those 4 years too. While he eventually declines jokic will still be in his prime aswell as murray/gordon so he doesnt need to be the main guy.

The problem for the nets is MPJ health and contract. He would be a perfect fit next to simmons but there is a big risk in two of them missing bunch of games while making 60+mil

MPJ + hyland +barton +picks and swaps for Durant

Murray/KCP/Gordon/Durant/Jokic would be crazy

Michael Porter Jr(who is injury prone may I add),Hyland,and picks/swaps won't be enough to get Kevin Durant. Other teams can easily beat the Nuggets trade offer. Plus,Will Burton isn't on the team anymore.

[jlokine]

what's the status on new york state and vaccination? honestly, if kevin durant has 4 yrs on his contract and he requests a trade, nothing you can do... just give irving whatever term he wants and trade him if he wants to leave. if the state has eased up on vaccination requirements, he only cant play games in toronto. he would've load managed that amount of games anyway.

brooklyn should just try to get them back on the same page.

[Warriorfan]

No one except GS can give what Nets want plus still have a contender. Value of an unhappy no longer full season KD goes down.

[Patsfan1081]

Phoenix, Miami and Philly are the obvious ones, but he’d be intriguing in Denver. He’d be able to age gracefully playing with Jokic.

Boston should also trade Brown for him, but they’ll sit on their hands

So break up a young core that just got to the finals and is still getting better for a 34 year old KD that hasnt played over 55 games in five years? KD is def a upgrade over Brown but at this point in his career who knows when that decline or injury bug hits.

[Patsfan1081]

No one except GS can give what Nets want plus still have a contender. Value of an unhappy no longer full season KD goes down.

They want two young all stars and picks which they arent getting, GS doesnt have that and there are other teams with a more attractive young player to headline a deal than a expiring Wiggins.

[hippesthippo]

Phoenix or miami. I don't see any other destination that makes sense as much as these two teams. With Kevin durant you will have a short championship window, these teams have been in the finals, and conference finals very recently and their windows are already short with Chris Paul and Jimmy butler respectively, durant should be able elevate these teams to a better and truet contender.

Yup, it's really either PHX, MIA, or he stays. Context matters.

[Dan Z]

I believe 76ers should go all-in.

Tobias Harris, Matisse Thybulle, Tyrese Maxey plus picks and swaps for Kevin Durant.

It works in the trade machine. 76ers time is now. The Process is over.

I like the idea of getting off the Harris contract. [b]I guess giving up Tyrese Maxey might be okay[/b] if get they are able to trade for Patrick Beverly/Jordan Clarkson in a seperate package. Thybulle won't be a huge loss in the short term due to PJ Tucker being on the team. Overall I think Daryl Morey should go bold and do what it takes to get Kevin Durant(as long that doesn't include giving up half of the team).

Maxey, Harris and picks for Durant would be a great trade for Philly. I have no idea why the Nets would even consider it (plus does Durant want to play with Harden again?).

Also, the earliest first round pick Philly can offer in a trade is 2029. Why would Brooklyn want to wait that long?

[jbk1234]

I know that teams want to start with really high asking prices in order to give themselves room to negotiate, but asking for two all stars and multiple firsts is a great way to end the negotiations before they begin.

[ProcessDoctor]

Who should:
-Denver?
-LAL
-LAC?
-Miami
-Philadelphia
-Phoenix

Who should but can’t:
-Dallas (no centerpiece in a trade outside of Luka)
-Portland (can't trade Simons or Grant for awhile)

Who could but shouldn’t:
-Golden State (no need for the drama)
-New Orleans (probably aren't as ready to win now as some of these other teams)
-Toronto (probably wise to hold onto Barnes, trading Pascal for KD makes less sense timeline wise)

[clippertown]

The Clippers lowkey should explore trading for both KD & Kyrie. They can offer a deal built around PG13 which is way better than anything else out there that's realistic. Nets get an all-star top 10ish player to stay competitive, while dumping Kyrie in the process. Clips go all-in on Kawhi + KD.

Durant + Irving for George + Jackson + Powell + 2028 first round pick.

Clippers 2023

Irving - Wall
Durant - Mann
Leonard - Kennard
Batum - Morris
Zubac - Covington

Nets 2023

Jackson - Curry
Powell - Harris
George - Warren
Simmons - O'Neale
Claxton - Griffin

I would rather trade for Simmons over Kyrie. Wall came to the team to start.

Run a lineup of Wall, Kennard, Kawhi, Durant and Simmons. Totally unstoppable. Still have Zubac, RoCo, Batum and Mann with Preston and Boston Jr in deep reserve and Morris Sr to be traded for another backup guard.

[tundraknight]

"We have a pretty gigantic gulf between what the Nets’ value of Kevin Durant is and what the market is willing to pay,” Windhorst said.

“Again, this requires some nuance and I know that this potentially will be taken out of that context. Kevin Durant is obviously a very valuable player. Nobody doubts that this guy is still in his prime years as an MVP level candidate, who can completely swing a team from pretender to contender with his presence."

Windhorst said the differences on value is why it could take a while for Durant to find a destination.

“However, the market does not want to pay a super premium price for him because if you trade away all of these top assets on your team to get him, he becomes less valuable to you," Windhorst said. "And that gulf is why we’re in a stalemate right now and could have one for a while.”

[wegotthabeet]

The Clippers lowkey should explore trading for both KD & Kyrie. They can offer a deal built around PG13 which is way better than anything else out there that's realistic. Nets get an all-star top 10ish player to stay competitive, while dumping Kyrie in the process. Clips go all-in on Kawhi + KD.

Durant + Irving for George + Jackson + Powell + 2028 first round pick.

Clippers 2023

Irving - Wall
Durant - Mann
Leonard - Kennard
Batum - Morris
Zubac - Covington

Nets 2023

Jackson - Curry
Powell - Harris
George - Warren
Simmons - O'Neale
Claxton - Griffin

I would rather trade for Simmons over Kyrie. Wall came to the team to start.

Run a lineup of Wall, Kennard, Kawhi, Durant and Simmons. Totally unstoppable. Still have Zubac, RoCo, Batum and Mann with Preston and Boston Jr in deep reserve and Morris Sr to be traded for another backup guard.

I agree, but do the Clippers have enough to make that deal happen? It's an interesting idea.

[JXL]

1) Phoenix can do a trade involving Bridges, Johnson, Crowder, 2023 1st, 2024 swap, 2025 1st, 2026 swap, 2027 1st
2) Miami (if OKC removes the protections) can do Lowry, Herro, Robinson, 2023 1st, 2025 1st, 2026 swap

[Warriorfan]

No one except GS can give what Nets want plus still have a contender. Value of an unhappy no longer full season KD goes down.

They want two young all stars and picks which they arent getting, GS doesnt have that and there are other teams with a more attractive young player to headline a deal than a expiring Wiggins.

What team would trade 2 all stars how many even have 2. Wiggins is one and he is just entering his prime.

[akula1488]

Lakers. I will love to see Lebron and Curry, or Lebron and KD as teammates