Horace Grant selling his rings

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Re: Horace Grant selling his rings 

Post#61 » by NPZ » Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:54 am

Dan Z wrote:He made 67 million dollars during his career. If he wasn't stupid with his money then he's fine.

I remember when he left the Bulls. I understood it because it was good money, but was bummed about it. Not only that but he tried to rub it in too (I remember when he gloated about beating the team).

If he's not proud of his time with the Bulls and want's to sell his rings then so be it. He was also salty about the Last Dance documentary.


He had the same animosity for Krause and Reinsdorf that Pippen did. He wanted to go off and win one w/ Shaq. It took him til 2001 to do that. Ho was an inch from signing w/ the Lakers over the Magic in 1994, btw, and he personally thanked West for a superb presentation/offer to him after he finally decided to join w/ Shaq. I am a longtime Laker fan and I remember West wanted Grant in 94 and then he tried Jayson Williams in 95. Both falling thru, of course. With Jayson, it was probably for the best. Yikes.

I remember him being picked up by the Magic teammates and he looked happy. I don't recall a fistpump or anything like that. I could be wrong. Bulls fans are one of the more fanatic bases when the teams are good, tho, so him being picked up alone would've been an affront of sorts.
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Re: Horace Grant selling his rings 

Post#62 » by Roco14 » Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:13 am

Really surprised that a championship ring from a Michael Jordan team only goes for a few hundred thousand dollars when baseball cards and even pokemon cards go for several million.
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Re: Horace Grant selling his rings 

Post#63 » by dhsilv2 » Tue Aug 23, 2022 1:33 pm

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Dan Z wrote:He made 67 million dollars during his career. If he wasn't stupid with his money then he's fine.

I remember when he left the Bulls. I understood it because it was good money, but was bummed about it. Not only that but he tried to rub it in too (I remember when he gloated about beating the team).

If he's not proud of his time with the Bulls and want's to sell his rings then so be it. He was also salty about the Last Dance documentary.


He had the same animosity for Krause and Reinsdorf that Pippen did. He wanted to go off and win one w/ Shaq. It took him til 2001 to do that. Ho was an inch from signing w/ the Lakers over the Magic in 1994, btw, and he personally thanked West for a superb presentation/offer to him after he finally decided to join w/ Shaq. I am a longtime Laker fan and I remember West wanted Grant in 94 and then he tried Jayson Williams in 95. Both falling thru, of course. With Jayson, it was probably for the best. Yikes.

I remember him being picked up by the Magic teammates and he looked happy. I don't recall a fistpump or anything like that. I could be wrong. Bulls fans are one of the more fanatic bases when the teams are good, tho, so him being picked up alone would've been an affront of sorts.


The bulls were brilliant with their contracts in the 90's (as were some other teams) and it REALLY afforded them the ability to seemingly fill in any needs they had each and every off season. It also might be why it's been so hard to build another contender since. They never gave anyone but MJ that "thank you" type deal most franchises do.
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Re: Horace Grant selling his rings 

Post#64 » by dhsilv2 » Tue Aug 23, 2022 1:34 pm

Roco14 wrote:Really surprised that a championship ring from a Michael Jordan team only goes for a few hundred thousand dollars when baseball cards and even pokemon cards go for several million.


If it were MJ's ring, it would be millions and millions of dollars. Even Pippen's might be worth a million plus.
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Post#65 » by Bologna Smasher » Tue Aug 23, 2022 1:38 pm

I was about say, I don't see how he's broke. Even if he did spend most of his money, he and Harvey still have Jerami Grant taking care of them. :D
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Re: Horace Grant selling his rings 

Post#66 » by Myth » Tue Aug 23, 2022 2:03 pm

Rings are all that matter. If he sells his rings, he is no longer a champion.
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Re: Horace Grant selling his rings 

Post#67 » by Heat3 » Tue Aug 23, 2022 4:22 pm

Everyone will sell their rings eventually. Or their estate when they die. MJ and Lebron’s will be available one day. So he can sell them and enjoy the money now however he wishes. The experience and his name in the record books won’t change.
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Re: Horace Grant selling his rings 

Post#68 » by NPZ » Tue Aug 23, 2022 4:27 pm

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Dan Z wrote:He made 67 million dollars during his career. If he wasn't stupid with his money then he's fine.

I remember when he left the Bulls. I understood it because it was good money, but was bummed about it. Not only that but he tried to rub it in too (I remember when he gloated about beating the team).

If he's not proud of his time with the Bulls and want's to sell his rings then so be it. He was also salty about the Last Dance documentary.


He had the same animosity for Krause and Reinsdorf that Pippen did. He wanted to go off and win one w/ Shaq. It took him til 2001 to do that. Ho was an inch from signing w/ the Lakers over the Magic in 1994, btw, and he personally thanked West for a superb presentation/offer to him after he finally decided to join w/ Shaq. I am a longtime Laker fan and I remember West wanted Grant in 94 and then he tried Jayson Williams in 95. Both falling thru, of course. With Jayson, it was probably for the best. Yikes.

I remember him being picked up by the Magic teammates and he looked happy. I don't recall a fistpump or anything like that. I could be wrong. Bulls fans are one of the more fanatic bases when the teams are good, tho, so him being picked up alone would've been an affront of sorts.


The bulls were brilliant with their contracts in the 90's (as were some other teams) and it REALLY afforded them the ability to seemingly fill in any needs they had each and every off season. It also might be why it's been so hard to build another contender since. They never gave anyone but MJ that "thank you" type deal most franchises do.


Oh, absolutely no doubt the Bulls Front Office...were brilliant w/ those contracts. Very shrewd. It's just that Scottie wasn't shrewd off the court like he was on it. He was advised not to sign that longterm deal in 92 and when the first money boom happened in the offseason of 96, he must've been seething that Reinsdorf wouldn't let him renegotiate his now meager deal. It took balls by Reinsdorf to hold his ground on a player the quality of Pippen, but he probably knew Mike would convince him to stay with him til the end.

As an aside on the 96 money boom, the Lakes have been doing those backloaded sweetheart deals since the 90s. The reason West suddenly had the money to add Shaq on was because they finally dumped millions off the payroll that they were still paying to Worthy and Magic years after their retirement. They both came off the books in Summer 96. Paying them post-retirement stagnated the Lakers for 5 years. I know Chicago FO is tight and precise and incredibly difficult to make a trade with. They need to start doing that. The players pay attention and talk to each other. I'd advise that behavior for every team, tbh. Doesn't guarantee a FA anything, BUT, it signals to them (if they're a big name, espec) that this FO is serious and willing to take care of them (wink wink). Jeanie has sold her soul to Brawn, pretty much. Old Brawn, even. Brawn is the substitute Kobe. That's all Jeanie knows. Find the biggest name possible, nab him and build from there.
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Re: Horace Grant selling his rings 

Post#69 » by Dan Z » Tue Aug 23, 2022 4:54 pm

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He had the same animosity for Krause and Reinsdorf that Pippen did. He wanted to go off and win one w/ Shaq. It took him til 2001 to do that. Ho was an inch from signing w/ the Lakers over the Magic in 1994, btw, and he personally thanked West for a superb presentation/offer to him after he finally decided to join w/ Shaq. I am a longtime Laker fan and I remember West wanted Grant in 94 and then he tried Jayson Williams in 95. Both falling thru, of course. With Jayson, it was probably for the best. Yikes.

I remember him being picked up by the Magic teammates and he looked happy. I don't recall a fistpump or anything like that. I could be wrong. Bulls fans are one of the more fanatic bases when the teams are good, tho, so him being picked up alone would've been an affront of sorts.


The bulls were brilliant with their contracts in the 90's (as were some other teams) and it REALLY afforded them the ability to seemingly fill in any needs they had each and every off season. It also might be why it's been so hard to build another contender since. They never gave anyone but MJ that "thank you" type deal most franchises do.


Oh, absolutely no doubt the Bulls Front Office...were brilliant w/ those contracts. Very shrewd. It's just that Scottie wasn't shrewd off the court like he was on it. He was advised not to sign that longterm deal in 92 and when the first money boom happened in the offseason of 96, he must've been seething that Reinsdorf wouldn't let him renegotiate his now meager deal. It took balls by Reinsdorf to hold his ground on a player the quality of Pippen, but he probably knew Mike would convince him to stay with him til the end.

As an aside on the 96 money boom, the Lakes have been doing those backloaded sweetheart deals since the 90s. The reason West suddenly had the money to add Shaq on was because they finally dumped millions off the payroll that they were still paying to Worthy and Magic years after their retirement. They both came off the books in Summer 96. Paying them post-retirement stagnated the Lakers for 5 years. I know Chicago FO is tight and precise and incredibly difficult to make a trade with. They need to start doing that. The players pay attention and talk to each other. I'd advise that behavior for every team, tbh. Doesn't guarantee a FA anything, BUT, it signals to them (if they're a big name, espec) that this FO is serious and willing to take care of them (wink wink). Jeanie has sold her soul to Brawn, pretty much. Old Brawn, even. Brawn is the substitute Kobe. That's all Jeanie knows. Find the biggest name possible, nab him and build from there.


There are many ways to build a team and I agree with you that if the Bulls shed their "cheap" reputation that would help (it won't change with Reinsdorf here). However, a winning team can overcome that reputation plus the Bulls are in a big market. Just looks at Gianni's recent comments about the Bulls. Players will come if the team is winning (or looks like it will win).
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Re: Horace Grant selling his rings 

Post#70 » by Michael Jackson » Tue Aug 23, 2022 5:07 pm

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LakersLegacy wrote:The Lakers ring is worth less than half? The 2001 team was a ridiculous 15-1 in the play-offs. Sweeping the mighty Spurs


Ho was a nice pickup that year, but he was older. And when fans think of him, they think Bulls. He was in his prime then. In 2001, I remember Ho having like one strong game per series. However, that's all that Laker team really needed. The context of the ring drives the price. He was already older in 2001 and Phil actually wanted him back for the 2004 season where he was a Walking Dead. We didn't win that year. Old Man Malone, however, was still a BOSS. Of course he gets his first injury EVER w/ us. In the 04 Spurs series, the Lakers were down 0-2 and swept the next 4 games and Malone held Timmy to 17.5 ppg and .380 shooting. And he also was a problem for KG in the T'Wolves series. Then his knee got tweaked hard in Gm 2 of the Finals and that was it.




I would also say Grant is remembered more for Orlando than he is LA, although he didn't the ring with Shaq there. That was still prim e Grant, not the one that was a solid player on the Lakers
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Re: Horace Grant selling his rings 

Post#71 » by Roco14 » Tue Aug 23, 2022 5:27 pm

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Roco14 wrote:Really surprised that a championship ring from a Michael Jordan team only goes for a few hundred thousand dollars when baseball cards and even pokemon cards go for several million.


If it were MJ's ring, it would be millions and millions of dollars. Even Pippen's might be worth a million plus.


For sure, I just thought that any of his teammates' rings would be up there in value considering the magnitude of MJ. After all there's only so many rings from those Bulls teams that ever even going to be listed for sale. Feels like it should be a no-brainer investment for "only" six figures.
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Post#72 » by Ritzo » Tue Aug 23, 2022 5:38 pm

Former 2011 Mavs champ DeShawn Stevenson sold his championship ring for only $74k just 2 months ago.

In case you might not know.
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Post#73 » by Bologna Smasher » Tue Aug 23, 2022 5:42 pm

Ritzo wrote:Former 2011 Mavs champ DeShawn Stevenson sold his championship ring for only $74k just 2 months ago.

In case you might not know.

At these prices, once I get old and have nothing else to live for, I'm just going to buy a couple of these rings and die an NBA champion.
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Post#74 » by dhsilv2 » Tue Aug 23, 2022 5:49 pm

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Roco14 wrote:Really surprised that a championship ring from a Michael Jordan team only goes for a few hundred thousand dollars when baseball cards and even pokemon cards go for several million.


If it were MJ's ring, it would be millions and millions of dollars. Even Pippen's might be worth a million plus.


For sure, I just thought that any of his teammates' rings would be up there in value considering the magnitude of MJ. After all there's only so many rings from those Bulls teams that ever even going to be listed for sale. Feels like it should be a no-brainer investment for "only" six figures.


I've heard of super bowl rings going for just WAY less than I'd have expected. I guess like others have said...what in the hell do you do with one? A signed Jersey is such a better display piece in a man cave. Even a card can be put on the wall or something. What do you do with a ring?
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Post#75 » by Backcountry » Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:03 pm

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Nate505 wrote: For all I know it could have been sitting in a box for decades not being touched.


I can't imagine wearing one of those things. They are the definition of garish.

Same. I could imagine them being in some sort of display case at my house though. On the other hand, I feel like I've heard many interviews with Olympic athletes who say their medals are just in a box in the closet. Man, if I ever won an Olympic medal (and if I were single at the time) I'd be at the bar with it every day, and would find a way to bring it into every conversation.


I'd have a Thanos "infinity gauntlet" built and mount the rings on that for my display. And maybe wear it out on occasion.

Of course, it wouldn't look right unless you had at least 6 rings...
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Post#76 » by The Laker Kid » Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:43 pm

BenoUdrihFTL wrote:Charles Barkley and Reggie Miller finna make some cash withdrawals


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Post#77 » by cwas2882 » Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:46 pm

He has to support Harvey's coke habit somehow
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Post#78 » by dc » Tue Aug 23, 2022 9:39 pm

azcatz11 wrote:He’s obviously broke and that sucks. I don’t feel bad for him it’s crazy how people can squander that much money


Dan Z wrote:He made 67 million dollars during his career. If he wasn't stupid with his money then he's fine.

I remember when he left the Bulls. I understood it because it was good money, but was bummed about it. Not only that but he tried to rub it in too (I remember when he gloated about beating the team).

If he's not proud of his time with the Bulls and want's to sell his rings then so be it. He was also salty about the Last Dance documentary.


I distinctly remember reading a Sports Illustrated article on the early 90s Bulls and that Grant was a bit of a high maintenance guy.

It said that, often times when they were on the road, Grant wouldn't like the hotel the team was staying at, so he'd move to his own hotel. And you'd have to assume he'd pay for that out of his own pocket. You gotta figure NBA teams tend to stay at decent hotels to begin with, so if Grant was seeking some upgrade, it wouldn't have been a cheap one. If that was a microcosm of how he spent his money, then you couldn't be shocked if he went broke.
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