Predict the next all star that gets traded

[oldncreaky]

I'm gonna say the Raptors trade Pascal Siakam. They have his replacement already on a much cheaper contract and the Raptors aren't contenders right now.

Masai could go a number of different ways with assets acquired in a Siakam deal: package them with other assets [Ogugua, FVV, etc.] to get a true number #1 in the unlikely event that one becomes available.

He could also use the assets to maneuver the draft board and select their next #1 guy [if it isn't Scottie already].

Lastly, he could use the assets from a Pascal trade to acquire role players to surround a possible core built around Scottie [if he ends up a #1] either via trade or solid draft/development.

Couldn't disagree more.

Raptors don't look like they are at any risk of going into the tax before becoming contenders in Scottie's 3rd of 4th year.

If you look at Masai's decade plus as a GM, he trades off stars (Melo, Gay) rarely, and he moves them they exit their prime, not enter it.

The Raptors aren't where they were at in 2018, ready for a consolidation/upgrade trade to go for a Championship after averaging over 50 wins for 4 years 2015-18. It's more like a repeat of 2014, the last time they won 48 games with a young core, after being in the lottery in 2013. Masai was patient then, and I expect he'll be patient now.

[Isiahthomass]

SGA

[BK_2020]

I'm gonna say the Raptors trade Pascal Siakam. They have his replacement already on a much cheaper contract and the Raptors aren't contenders right now.

Masai could go a number of different ways with assets acquired in a Siakam deal: package them with other assets [Ogugua, FVV, etc.] to get a true number #1 in the unlikely event that one becomes available.

He could also use the assets to maneuver the draft board and select their next #1 guy [if it isn't Scottie already].

Lastly, he could use the assets from a Pascal trade to acquire role players to surround a possible core built around Scottie [if he ends up a #1] either via trade or solid draft/development.

Only in RGM would people suggest trading an All-NBA player for role players.

[eyeatoma]

I feel like some on here don't know what an all-star is. Also if you haven't made the all-star game in previous years then you're not one. Perhaps the question needs to be rephrased so it's termed, star player.

[Yuri Vaultin]

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander

[GiannisAnte34]

What you are suggesting brings a playoff team closer to the possibility of being in the lottery. That's not something GMs can risk without being given the okay from ownership for a full rebuild. The presence of Siakam would continue to make the Raps decent enough not to have a top 10 pick.

You're forgetting that the trade target with FVV is a prospect that can develop alongside Barnes. The Raps as constructed minus FVV is not touching the lottery barring injuries

So you have two young developing players in the starting lineup as your second and third best players and the team is not touching the lottery? That team has more of a chance at being a lottery team than going to the second round.

if the Raps did trade FVV for a younger prospect they are still better than at least 10 teams in the league man

[CallMeKahn]

Kyrie.

[dans1230]

I can see Jaylen Brown hinting he wants out of the Celtics come up shot of a ECF

Hes been to the ECF in 4 of his 6 years in the league, not sure that would motivate him to ask out.

[Pointgod]

I must have missed it but since when is SGA an allstar?I don’t think the next ones out are going to be a Lillard or Beal. Their contracts are massive which will make it hard to match from a salary perspective and I don’t see either of them fetching a return like Mitchell. Depending on what you consider allstar, Porzingis, D’angelo Russell, Wiggins, Derozan, Vucevic could all be on the move next season.

[SelfishPlayer]

You're forgetting that the trade target with FVV is a prospect that can develop alongside Barnes. The Raps as constructed minus FVV is not touching the lottery barring injuries

So you have two young developing players in the starting lineup as your second and third best players and the team is not touching the lottery? That team has more of a chance at being a lottery team than going to the second round.

if the Raps did trade FVV for a younger prospect they are still better than at least 10 teams in the league man

That's your opinion...The reality has been that teams that young with so few All Stars have a great shot at the lottery.

[Synciere]

Jaylen Brown.

Siakam could be traded, but only for a franchise player who asks out. Something like Siakam, FVV, Anouby plus picks for a KD. Not predicting that trade, just something in that range.

Not sure SGA has been an All Star.

Draymond if he knows of a team that’ll pay him more than Golden State, with rumblings Detroit could be interested. Not sure that’ll happen this season but next off season? Maybe.

[3toheadmelo]

Lillard

I know my Knicks are ready to get an aging Lillard after we missed out on Mitchell

[pingpongrac]

Jaylen Brown.

Siakam could be traded, but only for a franchise player who asks out. Something like Siakam, FVV, Anouby plus picks for a KD. Not predicting that trade, just something in that range.

Not sure SGA has been an All Star.

Draymond if he knows of a team that’ll pay him more than Golden State, with rumblings Detroit could be interested. Not sure that’ll happen this season but next off season? Maybe.

When has a team ever traded an All-NBA player and two other high-end starters (one of which was just an All-Star) plus picks for a single player? Even if that player is a 34-year-old superstar, that is the kind of move that sets a franchise back 10 years lol.

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[Synciere]

Jaylen Brown.

Siakam could be traded, but only for a franchise player who asks out. Something like Siakam, FVV, Anouby plus picks for a KD. Not predicting that trade, just something in that range.

Not sure SGA has been an All Star.

Draymond if he knows of a team that’ll pay him more than Golden State, with rumblings Detroit could be interested. Not sure that’ll happen this season but next off season? Maybe.

When has a team ever traded an All-NBA player and two other high-end starters (one of which was just an All-Star) plus picks for a single player? Even if that player is a 34-year-old superstar, that is the kind of move that sets a franchise back 10 years lol.

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So substitute the commas with and/or. That wasn’t really my point though. I was just thinking that Masai seems like the type to trade up, using his good players to get great players. In that way I could see Siakam moved got and upgrade.

[Roy T]

DeAngelo Russell

[pingpongrac]

Jaylen Brown.

Siakam could be traded, but only for a franchise player who asks out. Something like Siakam, FVV, Anouby plus picks for a KD. Not predicting that trade, just something in that range.

Not sure SGA has been an All Star.

Draymond if he knows of a team that’ll pay him more than Golden State, with rumblings Detroit could be interested. Not sure that’ll happen this season but next off season? Maybe.

When has a team ever traded an All-NBA player and two other high-end starters (one of which was just an All-Star) plus picks for a single player? Even if that player is a 34-year-old superstar, that is the kind of move that sets a franchise back 10 years lol.

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So substitute the commas with and/or. That wasn’t really my point though. I was just thinking that Masai seems like the type to trade up, using his good players to get great players. In that way I could see Siakam moved got and upgrade.

It doesn't make sense to trade Siakam now though. Unless it's a straight-up swap or minimal other pieces are added (like salary filler + picks), Toronto wouldn't have enough high-end talent to truly compete. Barnes (21), Achiuwa (23) and Trent (23) are just too young to be #2 options on a Championship team right now and as much as I am a big fan of FVV, he probably shouldn't be your #2 option either.

Masai will upgrade if something becomes available and it makes sense to go for it, but Siakam is the best player on this team and the most important piece until Barnes (hopefully) takes a leap to being a bonafide star within a few years. It is extremely unlikely that Siakam will be moved in the next 12 months.

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[GiannisAnte34]

So you have two young developing players in the starting lineup as your second and third best players and the team is not touching the lottery? That team has more of a chance at being a lottery team than going to the second round.

if the Raps did trade FVV for a younger prospect they are still better than at least 10 teams in the league man

That's your opinion...The reality has been that teams that young with so few All Stars have a great shot at the lottery.

and your opinion appears to be that subtracting FVV is a -12 wins move, which would still be a better record than 10 teams in the league would need to subtract more than 20 wins to even be in contention for 6th worst record (FVV has nowhere near this much impact on winning)

[SelfishPlayer]

if the Raps did trade FVV for a younger prospect they are still better than at least 10 teams in the league man

That's your opinion...The reality has been that teams that young with so few All Stars have a great shot at the lottery.

and your opinion appears to be that subtracting FVV is a -12 wins move, which would still be a better record than 10 teams in the league would need to subtract more than 20 wins to even be in contention for 6th worst record (FVV has nowhere near this much impact on winning)

Removing your All Star point guard and replacing him with a random position non All Star younger player leaving your team with only one All Star at the SF/PF position is usually a lottery team. Lebron, Giannis, and Doncic are the only recent small forwards good and durable enough that you can pencil in their team to make the playoffs while they are surrounded by youth and lack fellow All Stars. Are you suggesting that Siakam is good enough to drag a team to the playoffs, or are the Raptors' group of youthful non All Stars more "special" than teams other organizations have similarly fielded?

[Jabroni Lames]

FVV, because he will never be an all-star again.

[BostonCouchGM]

Zion will demand a trade next offseason if not during this season. He is not long for New Orleans.