Kyrie says he's motivated, pats himself on the back once again

[rtiff68]

While several people start to steer this into another debate over “vaccines, and which side is more scientific,” I think I should remind everyone that Kyrie’s history tells us pretty loudly that his “stand” had nothing to do with the vaccine itself, per se— it was yet another vehicle for him to attract attention to himself while reminding everyone how much more enlightened he is than the rest of us “pawns.”

He boycotts the media by making it SUPER CLEAR THAT HE’S NOT TALKING TO THE MEDIA with his extremely overt and public “silence.”

He isn’t interested in answering media questions about frivolous things like basketball because he’s too preoccupied with violence in the Middle East.

There’s 4 dozen extremely public examples of his attention seeking narcissism. lol. Good Lord.

Oh, and if you’re a “vocal supporter,” you likely don’t care about whatever cause he’s tethering himself too, either. In all likelihood, you’re an attention seeking contrarian with low self awareness who isn’t a world class isolation scorer in basketball, so you seek your attention on message boards (rather than in the media) taking up for an obvious schmuck.

Rant over.

[Wall_To_Clips]

The science didn’t back him. Not at all. I’m not interested in wasting my time explaining or entering into this mind numbingly stupid “debate” again either.

My observation on Kyrie stands… he’s a moron.

There isn't anything remotely scientific supporting mandates in young people, and especially children. So while I wouldn't say the science entirely backs Kyrie, it also isn't particularly convincing. Unless you consider something as a vaccine that wanes in 3 to 5 months as about 87 studies have shown now.

Like everything in life, this is a very nuanced thing, and to suggest it's settled science without context doesn't seem wise. The bigger issue for me is we get these Kyrie threads every week, and it's nothing more than a pissing contest, and personal attacks. Yet mods continue to leave them up until it explodes in the thread into full blown name calling.

There also is plenty of studies coming out regarding the damage done by them, as well as the lockdowns, covered by multiple publications including NYT and CNN. This isn’t some conspiracy. This isn’t something you can slip under the rug. Examples:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/01/us/national-test-scores-math-reading-pandemic.html

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-02823-4

There are grave consequences to the decisions, and while they may have been necessary at times, in certain areas, I feel like people skim over the very real trade offs.

There was plenty of data supporting mandates in people of all ages. The entire growth curves, R0 and death rate figures of the early variants were the data to support the mandates.

In terms of supporting mandates right now, the need is waning and eventually it will be dropped. Understand that vaccines are protected proactively and not retroactively.

There hasn’t been one definitive double blind study showing the need for mandates in children, or young people in reasonable health I’ve seen. Anything under 39 years old gets murky on data mostly, and in children it’s just not there.

Not just mandates, but the studies used to pass child vaccines through panels recently have been laughable. The recent Omicron specific boosters that just came out weren’t even trialed on humans for Christ sake!

You really don’t think the handling of the shots or mandate hasn’t been controversial at times? Do you believe a non double blind rat study is sufficient to push out a booster into the population?

I really hope for the sake of the world we can get back to conversations instead of cult like behavior on controversial topics. I’m not saying Kyrie is RIGHT. It’s just not cool that this topic is allowed nonstop. It’s becoming an echo chamber.

https://time.com/6208623/omicron-boosters-animals-clinical-trials/

[ReddoverKobe]

There isn't anything remotely scientific supporting mandates in young people, and especially children. So while I wouldn't say the science entirely backs Kyrie, it also isn't particularly convincing. Unless you consider something as a vaccine that wanes in 3 to 5 months as about 87 studies have shown now.

Like everything in life, this is a very nuanced thing, and to suggest it's settled science without context doesn't seem wise. The bigger issue for me is we get these Kyrie threads every week, and it's nothing more than a pissing contest, and personal attacks. Yet mods continue to leave them up until it explodes in the thread into full blown name calling.

There also is plenty of studies coming out regarding the damage done by them, as well as the lockdowns, covered by multiple publications including NYT and CNN. This isn’t some conspiracy. This isn’t something you can slip under the rug. Examples:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/01/us/national-test-scores-math-reading-pandemic.html

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-02823-4

There are grave consequences to the decisions, and while they may have been necessary at times, in certain areas, I feel like people skim over the very real trade offs.

There was plenty of data supporting mandates in people of all ages. The entire growth curves, R0 and death rate figures of the early variants were the data to support the mandates.

In terms of supporting mandates right now, the need is waning and eventually it will be dropped. Understand that vaccines are protected proactively and not retroactively.

There hasn’t been one definitive double blind study showing the need for mandates in children, or young people in reasonable health I’ve seen. Anything under 39 years old gets murky on data mostly, and in children it’s just not there.

Not just mandates, but the studies used to pass child vaccines through panels recently have been laughable. The recent Omicron specific boosters that just came out weren’t even trialed on humans for Christ sake!

You really don’t think the handling of the shots or mandate hasn’t been controversial at times? Do you believe a non double blind rat study is sufficient to push out a booster into the population?

I really hope for the sake of the world we can get back to conversations instead of cult like behavior on controversial topics. I’m not saying Kyrie is RIGHT. It’s just not cool that this topic is allowed nonstop. It’s becoming an echo chamber.

An echo chamber where some people live in reality then you have gutter trash like kyrie. Stop the both sides nonsense.

[pacers33]

I like Kyrie. When he is on he's fun to watch and the off the court stuff really gets normal people upset in a mostly harmless way. Maybe it's above my head but the politics of it all are incoherent to me and kinda like if Andy Kaufman was anti-vaxx. I'm a fan.

Imagine you have family member that dies of cancer and then you see someone calling cancer fake and spreading a bunch of lies and misinformation. Now imagine that cancer can be spread to others. You still a fan? Nothing about this is harmless and I'll never understand anyone defending people like him.

My mom died of cancer when I was a child. I can't say politics mattered too much then, Alex Jones, being jabbed or unjabbed. Would it bother me if Kyrie said cancer wasn't real or better treatment options existed outside of the mainstream? No. I find the comparison between cancer and COVID to be quite frankly absurd. I know which I would rather be diagnosed with. And for the record, my mom did abandon conventional health treatments towards the end of her life, and it was her own decision to do that, not a celebrity's influence.

[Wall_To_Clips]

There was plenty of data supporting mandates in people of all ages. The entire growth curves, R0 and death rate figures of the early variants were the data to support the mandates.

In terms of supporting mandates right now, the need is waning and eventually it will be dropped. Understand that vaccines are protected proactively and not retroactively.

There hasn’t been one definitive double blind study showing the need for mandates in children, or young people in reasonable health I’ve seen. Anything under 39 years old gets murky on data mostly, and in children it’s just not there.

Not just mandates, but the studies used to pass child vaccines through panels recently have been laughable. The recent Omicron specific boosters that just came out weren’t even trialed on humans for Christ sake!

You really don’t think the handling of the shots or mandate hasn’t been controversial at times? Do you believe a non double blind rat study is sufficient to push out a booster into the population?

I really hope for the sake of the world we can get back to conversations instead of cult like behavior on controversial topics. I’m not saying Kyrie is RIGHT. It’s just not cool that this topic is allowed nonstop. It’s becoming an echo chamber.

An echo chamber where some people live in reality then you have gutter trash like kyrie. Stop the both sides nonsense.

It’s not mutually exclusive. I can believe Kyrie says a ton of idiotic ****, and still find it ridiculously that we have to hammer this topic to the ground on the forum because the cult isn’t happy with his opinions.

I disagree with Kyrie on a lot of things. I also think within his conspiracy mind, there is a grain of truth to the problematic things that arose during this pandemic. I find it entirely unnecessary that this thread type comes up every single week or two. I have yet to see one of these threads go peacefully.

[ReddoverKobe]

There hasn’t been one definitive double blind study showing the need for mandates in children, or young people in reasonable health I’ve seen. Anything under 39 years old gets murky on data mostly, and in children it’s just not there.

Not just mandates, but the studies used to pass child vaccines through panels recently have been laughable. The recent Omicron specific boosters that just came out weren’t even trialed on humans for Christ sake!

You really don’t think the handling of the shots or mandate hasn’t been controversial at times? Do you believe a non double blind rat study is sufficient to push out a booster into the population?

I really hope for the sake of the world we can get back to conversations instead of cult like behavior on controversial topics. I’m not saying Kyrie is RIGHT. It’s just not cool that this topic is allowed nonstop. It’s becoming an echo chamber.

An echo chamber where some people live in reality then you have gutter trash like kyrie. Stop the both sides nonsense.

It’s not mutually exclusive. I can believe Kyrie says a ton of idiotic ****, and still find it ridiculously that we have to hammer this topic to the ground on the forum because the cult isn’t happy with his opinions.

I disagree with Kyrie on a lot of things. I also think within his conspiracy mind, there is a grain of truth to the problematic things that arose during this pandemic. I find it entirely unnecessary that this thread type comes up every single week or two. I have yet to see one of these threads go peacefully.

I guess that would be a Kyrie problem then.

[Quattro]

How so. The science backed him then and it's really backing him now

The science didn’t back him. Not at all. I’m not interested in wasting my time explaining or entering into this mind numbingly stupid “debate” again either.

My observation on Kyrie stands… he’s a moron.

There isn't anything remotely scientific supporting mandates in young people, and especially children. So while I wouldn't say the science entirely backs Kyrie, it also isn't particularly convincing. Unless you consider something as a vaccine that wanes in 3 to 5 months as about 87 studies have shown now.

Like everything in life, this is a very nuanced thing, and to suggest it's settled science without context doesn't seem wise. The bigger issue for me is we get these Kyrie threads every week, and it's nothing more than a pissing contest, and personal attacks. Yet mods continue to leave them up until it explodes in the thread into full blown name calling.

There also is plenty of studies coming out regarding the damage done by them, as well as the lockdowns, covered by multiple publications including NYT and CNN. This isn’t some conspiracy. This isn’t something you can slip under the rug. Examples:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/01/us/national-test-scores-math-reading-pandemic.html

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-02823-4

There are grave consequences to the decisions, and while they may have been necessary at times, in certain areas, I feel like people skim over the very real trade offs.

We’re not talking about lockdowns and we’re not talking about children.

[Pablo Escobar]

He's going to try and be on his best behavior so he can get that max contract. Kd/Kyrie/Simmons are a great fit on paper but they lack a ton of leadership and mental toughness. Couple that with a dumbass head coach who is simply just a figure head and you've got all the ingredients for an epic meltdown.

[BNM]

Let's hope the thread title was meant figuratively and not literally. If Kyrie had actually physically patted himself on the back he'd miss at least the first 30 games of the regular season recovering from a strained shoulder.

[zimpy27]

There isn't anything remotely scientific supporting mandates in young people, and especially children. So while I wouldn't say the science entirely backs Kyrie, it also isn't particularly convincing. Unless you consider something as a vaccine that wanes in 3 to 5 months as about 87 studies have shown now.

Like everything in life, this is a very nuanced thing, and to suggest it's settled science without context doesn't seem wise. The bigger issue for me is we get these Kyrie threads every week, and it's nothing more than a pissing contest, and personal attacks. Yet mods continue to leave them up until it explodes in the thread into full blown name calling.

There also is plenty of studies coming out regarding the damage done by them, as well as the lockdowns, covered by multiple publications including NYT and CNN. This isn’t some conspiracy. This isn’t something you can slip under the rug. Examples:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/01/us/national-test-scores-math-reading-pandemic.html

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-02823-4

There are grave consequences to the decisions, and while they may have been necessary at times, in certain areas, I feel like people skim over the very real trade offs.

There was plenty of data supporting mandates in people of all ages. The entire growth curves, R0 and death rate figures of the early variants were the data to support the mandates.

In terms of supporting mandates right now, the need is waning and eventually it will be dropped. Understand that vaccines are protected proactively and not retroactively.

There hasn’t been one definitive double blind study showing the need for mandates in children, or young people in reasonable health I’ve seen. Anything under 39 years old gets murky on data mostly, and in children it’s just not there.

Not just mandates, but the studies used to pass child vaccines through panels recently have been laughable. The recent Omicron specific boosters that just came out weren’t even trialed on humans for Christ sake!

You really don’t think the handling of the shots or mandate hasn’t been controversial at times? Do you believe a non double blind rat study is sufficient to push out a booster into the population?

I really hope for the sake of the world we can get back to conversations instead of cult like behavior on controversial topics. I’m not saying Kyrie is RIGHT. It’s just not cool that this topic is allowed nonstop. It’s becoming an echo chamber.

https://time.com/6208623/omicron-boosters-animals-clinical-trials/

The vaccine mandates were about curtailing the projected landscape about what was known about the virus and what was known about the vaccines.

If you are missing that part of the discussion then you are missing that point. You are focusing on the safety of the vaccines and their testing. The safety was worked in to the calculations of projections vs the projects of the danger COVID presented to people and the health system.

[LeMasta]

Kyrie is an Alex Jones follower. I can’t wait until this guy is out of the league.

Yeah this guy will believe any conspiracy he sees online and think he's some kind of enlightened genius, dunning kruger in full display

[TwitterFingers]

We should have a Kyrie sticky thread for all the outrageous things he says. Actually if he said something that sounded normal it would be more man bites dog story versus the other way around

[ken6199]

Turned into another covid discussion thread.