Victor Wembanyama Mega-Thread - For all your Wembanyama needs!

[MrBigShot]

Even if he has a major injury tomorrow (knock on wood) he still probably goes #1.

But, there was this article or interview can't remember which was describing that he has world class support, and everything they do is aimed towards the prevention of injuries, they're teaching him how to land, how to take a fall, long sessions if stretching before and after exercise, how to maintain his posture etc. Plus they say he has intentionally not lifted a weight in his life yet, which I thought is bizarre and no idea what it's supposed to achieve but there you go.

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If Victor has an ACL tear then unfortunately he's not going number one. Scoot would be number one if that happened.

An ACL injury isn't so bad nowadays. There are players like scoot in every draft. Short of something like a Shaun Livingston knee injury, Victor would still be picked #1 by 30/30 GMs. There is a gigantic gulf in potential between him and the rest of the draft.

[ratul]

He reminds me of a young thabeet

[The Box Office]

An ACL injury isn't so bad nowadays.

I'll always humbly disagree with this. Always. Let's tear your ACL and see how you feel.

There are players like scoot in every draft.

Name them.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

He's playing 18 mpg.

Any ability to project how his body holds up in the NBA is just not going to be possible before the draft.

That's why I pose a question re. NCAA play plus wealthy endorsement deals.

I wonder what Kareem and Bill Walton would recommend (75 year old and 65plus) wise, very skilled players. Throw Ralph Sampson into this convo as mentor advisors. n perspective, I was at Maryland while the late Len Bias was there in 1984. (Yes, he said hi one day as I was probably so in awe he noticed.) I also recall Hank Gathers. NOTHING is guaranteed except we all pass some day.

My youngest son opted for the Marine Corps. He's just a couple years older than Victor.

I think if he's eligible, I would recommend Victor speak with KG, KD, and get face time or advice from some old heads AND THEN make HIS OWN Business Decision

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

He reminds me of a young thabeet

[Jabroni Lames]

An ACL injury isn't so bad nowadays.

I'll always humbly disagree with this. Always. Let's tear your ACL and see how you feel.

There are players like scoot in every draft.

Name them.

I think he means that athletic scoring guards are always available every draft... which is true. And while Scoot is very athletic, he's not in the same class as Ja Morant, Anthony Edwards or Shaedon Sharpe. Probably similar to Dennis Smith Jr and Donovan Mitchell... which is still great. Examples would be:

Jaden Ivey, Shaedon Sharpe, Jalen Suggs, Ben Mathurin, Anthony Edwards, Cole Anthony, Jalen Green, Ja Morant, Dennis Smith Jr, D'Aaron Fox, Donovan Mitchell, Caris Levert, etc...

[Ein Sof]

Richard Jefferson has stated if Lebron was in the same draft class as Victor he would go #2... Which is crazy to me considering the hype Lebron got in high school. I mean his highschool games where on ESPN.

What are y'all thoughts on this?

There's a separate thread on this that's still open if you want to read people's takes...

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2229472

I honestly think what RJ said is not that crazy. Not the Wembanyama is a better player than Bron going into the draft, and not that he will end up being as good as Bron became. It's just Wemby's skillset and mobility at his enormous size scream #1 pick and would be hard to pass on in a draft. If you have to pick one of two elite prospects in a vacuum you probably take the giant.

I'd take LeBron any day of the week.
At that size and frame, durability will always be a concern with Wembanyama.

You serious?

LeBron turned out as a bust. Negative Finals record anyone?

[Joao Saraiva]

There's a separate thread on this that's still open if you want to read people's takes...

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2229472

I honestly think what RJ said is not that crazy. Not the Wembanyama is a better player than Bron going into the draft, and not that he will end up being as good as Bron became. It's just Wemby's skillset and mobility at his enormous size scream #1 pick and would be hard to pass on in a draft. If you have to pick one of two elite prospects in a vacuum you probably take the giant.

I'd take LeBron any day of the week.
At that size and frame, durability will always be a concern with Wembanyama.

You serious?

LeBron turned out as a bust. Negative Finals record anyone?

If a 4 time MVP and 4 Finals MVP with the most points in NBA history is a bust... then there are two or three guys in history that weren't busts.

LeBron has a negative record in the finals... it says he wasn't on the favored side more often than not. Only time he lost and should have won was 11, but also has a win in 16 when he should have lost. So it kind of evens things.

[Ein Sof]

I'd take LeBron any day of the week.
At that size and frame, durability will always be a concern with Wembanyama.

You serious?

LeBron turned out as a bust. Negative Finals record anyone?

If a 4 time MVP and 4 Finals MVP with the most points in NBA history is a bust... then there are two or three guys in history that weren't busts.

LeBron has a negative record in the finals... it says he wasn't on the favored side more often than not. Only time he lost and should have won was 11, but also has a win in 16 when he should have lost. So it kind of evens things.

LOL.

Guy was getting Magic and Jordan comparisons and instead ended up a career journeyman who's 22-33 in the Finals. Not living up to the expectations is textbook bustdom.

I mean even Kwame Brown managed to score 4000 points in the NBA.

[LoveMyRaps]

I'd take LeBron any day of the week.
At that size and frame, durability will always be a concern with Wembanyama.

You serious?

LeBron turned out as a bust. Negative Finals record anyone?

If a 4 time MVP and 4 Finals MVP with the most points in NBA history is a bust... then there are two or three guys in history that weren't busts.

LeBron has a negative record in the finals... it says he wasn't on the favored side more often than not. Only time he lost and should have won was 11, but also has a win in 16 when he should have lost. So it kind of evens things.

Don't feed the troll.

[Joao Saraiva]

You serious?

LeBron turned out as a bust. Negative Finals record anyone?

If a 4 time MVP and 4 Finals MVP with the most points in NBA history is a bust... then there are two or three guys in history that weren't busts.

LeBron has a negative record in the finals... it says he wasn't on the favored side more often than not. Only time he lost and should have won was 11, but also has a win in 16 when he should have lost. So it kind of evens things.

LOL.

Guy was getting Magic and Jordan comparisons and instead ended up a career journeyman who's 22-33 in the Finals. Not living up to the expectations is textbook bustdom.

I mean even Kwame Brown managed to score 4000 points in the NBA.

And the comparisons were and still are fair. Magic hasn't much of an argument left, against MJ you can argue a case for both.

Kwame Brown was a #1 pick, so with that comes certain expectations. But not being in the GOAT conversation isn't what makes a #1 pick a bust.

You have Kwame or Bennet as busts, Blake Griffin isn't in the top players ever conversation but I can't consider him a bust. Played all-star level for a while,has had a long enough basketball career...

Not every #1 pick is gonna be an all time great, and that's fine.

[Slim Charlez]

There's a separate thread on this that's still open if you want to read people's takes...

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2229472

I honestly think what RJ said is not that crazy. Not the Wembanyama is a better player than Bron going into the draft, and not that he will end up being as good as Bron became. It's just Wemby's skillset and mobility at his enormous size scream #1 pick and would be hard to pass on in a draft. If you have to pick one of two elite prospects in a vacuum you probably take the giant.

I'd take LeBron any day of the week.
At that size and frame, durability will always be a concern with Wembanyama.

You serious?

LeBron turned out as a bust. Negative Finals record anyone?

Nice troll job Skip. If Lebron is a bust then 99.9% of the players who've played in the league ain't ****.

[UcanUwill]

has he played any games since Ignite? Seems like enough time passed.

[_jin]

has he played any games since Ignite? Seems like enough time passed.

Mets are playing Le Mans on Saturday, who's won 4 out of 4 so far this season so it will be an interesting test for them.

[bravor]

has he played any games since Ignite? Seems like enough time passed.

Mets are playing Le Mans on Saturday, who's won 4 out of 4 so far this season so it will be an interesting test for them.

That's my team (Le Mans) but even if we have won those 4 games, we are undersized quite badly. I doubt Victor will have trouble doing stats against our frontcourt (especially from the perimeter) even if we can limit the rebound part (we'll see).

A good test will be against Monaco (scheduled the 23th of december) as they can use D. Hall, Motiejunas, Makoundou and couple others on him.

Best test in the short term should be the Lithuania - France qualifer in november.

@UcanUwill
their game against Roanne has been postponed (early december) because of the Ignite games but they will catch up in the following weeks.

[_jin]

has he played any games since Ignite? Seems like enough time passed.

Mets are playing Le Mans on Saturday, who's won 4 out of 4 so far this season so it will be an interesting test for them.

That's my team (Le Mans) but even if we have won those 4 games, we are undersized quite badly. I doubt Victor will have trouble doing stats against our frontcourt (especially from the perimeter) even if we can limit the rebound part (we'll see).

A good test will be against Monaco as they can use D. Hall, Motiejunas, Makoundou and couple others on him.

Best test in the short term should be the Lithuania - France qualifer in november.

Size is your major problem but you're still the favorites on Saturday. Victor is gonna have his hands full defensively because Waters isn't stopping Morgan.

[MrBigShot]

An ACL injury isn't so bad nowadays.

I'll always humbly disagree with this. Always. Let's tear your ACL and see how you feel.

There are players like scoot in every draft.

Name them.

Make me a world class athlete with access to top tier trainers, medical professionals and equipment too and i'll be just fine.

[Clav]

An ACL injury isn't so bad nowadays.

I'll always humbly disagree with this. Always. Let's tear your ACL and see how you feel.

There are players like scoot in every draft.

Name them.

Make me a world class athlete with access to top tier trainers, medical professionals and equipment too and i'll be just fine.

Man, MrBigShot, don't say that, don't downplay it without knowing how it is.

I never wish anyone to go through ACL injury + rehab, even as an athlete it is a year of changing your entire life to get back to an athletic level you may not quite reach again. The pain from the injury is severe in most cases and the inconvenience you face is really worse. Playing it off like you'll be fine really shows how your mental disconnect in how severe the injury really is, even with modern medicine.

[MrBigShot]

I'll always humbly disagree with this. Always. Let's tear your ACL and see how you feel.




Name them.

Make me a world class athlete with access to top tier trainers, medical professionals and equipment too and i'll be just fine.

Man, MrBigShot, don't say that, don't downplay it without knowing how it is.

I never wish anyone to go through ACL injury + rehab, even as an athlete it is a year of changing your entire life to get back to an athletic level you may not quite reach again. The pain from the injury is severe in most cases and the inconvenience you face is really worse. Playing it off like you'll be fine really shows how your mental disconnect in how severe the injury really is, even with modern medicine.

The only thing being downplayed in this thread is how far of a gap there is between Victor and the rest of the draft. To think he wouldn't go #1 because of an ACL injury is simply delusional. Scoot has a chance to be a star, Victor has a chance to be an all time great.

[The Box Office]

Make me a world class athlete with access to top tier trainers, medical professionals and equipment too and i'll be just fine.

Man, MrBigShot, don't say that, don't downplay it without knowing how it is.

I never wish anyone to go through ACL injury + rehab, even as an athlete it is a year of changing your entire life to get back to an athletic level you may not quite reach again. The pain from the injury is severe in most cases and the inconvenience you face is really worse. Playing it off like you'll be fine really shows how your mental disconnect in how severe the injury really is, even with modern medicine.

The only thing being downplayed in this thread is how far of a gap there is between Victor and the rest of the draft. To think he wouldn't go #1 because of an ACL injury is simply delusional. Scoot has a chance to be a star, Victor has a chance to be an all time great.

No one wants to go through an ACL tear. No one. Ask Derrick Rose. There is nothing delusional about that. And nobody here is downplaying Victor's abilities. Is Victor your God? You're really mad that he's not our God.

Well, do you really want Victor to tear his ACL?

No he doesn't want Victor to tear his ACL. Please let it go and don't derail our Wembanyama thread with this silly argument. -b