So how much longer til we admit Klay is cooked?

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Re: So how much longer til we admit Klay is cooked? 

Post#61 » by Clyde Frazier » Thu Nov 17, 2022 7:04 pm

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CraftylikeaFox wrote:I also feel like he's one of the type of guys that wouldn't have a problem with this. He seems to have a really good team first demeanor and it's not like he has anything to worry about legacy wise.



I think in time he can handle it, but I'm not sure it would be easy for him right now. He is in a bad spot mentally and is really trying to will himself into being all-star Klay again. It's gonna crush him to be moved to the bench.

Clyde Frazier wrote:Shocker the guy isn't the same after missing 2 full NBA seasons. He's also more important to the warriors than he'd be to the average team, so can't take his stats at face value. 19 PPG on 55% TS en route to the title is a lot more relevant than a rough start to the regular season.


Thing is that Poole looks a LOT better in the starting lineup (we started what 20-2 last season with him there), so keeping Klay starting is costing us production from JP. It's time to pass the baton. Klay is having a tough time guarding top end players, GPII was a godsend when he came back in the Finals but he is gone now.

If the Warriors are going to get going, it's by unlocking the upside of Poole & the young guys, mainly Poole. He's much more naturally a complimentary SG than he is a point guard that creates. Watch him starting vs. the Spurs, I know it is just one game but he fits in so much better with the starters than forcing him to try to carry the bench.


Yeah I'm not arguing with a move to the bench or anything like that. I feel like kerr has been extra rigid in his decision making this season so it probably won't happen for a while. It could be confirmation bias since they're struggling as a team but I think he needs to be more flexible.
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Re: So how much longer til we admit Klay is cooked? 

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Re: So how much longer til we admit Klay is cooked? 

Post#63 » by DirtyDez » Thu Nov 17, 2022 10:36 pm

It really sucks that injuries are going to rob the twilight of his career. In the 19’ finals before getting hurt he was playing the best ball of his life.
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Re: So how much longer til we admit Klay is cooked? 

Post#64 » by floppymoose » Thu Nov 17, 2022 10:40 pm

I've been admitting Klay was cooked since last season.
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Re: So how much longer til we admit Klay is cooked? 

Post#65 » by Statlanta » Thu Nov 17, 2022 10:41 pm

We all know it, it just matters ho long for Klay to admit it. Given how he treated Booker and Charles Barkley it seems it’s going to be awhile
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Re: So how much longer til we admit Klay is cooked? 

Post#66 » by facothomas22 » Thu Nov 17, 2022 10:56 pm

Yeah based on what I have seen, Klay Thompson days as more than average starter appears to have come to a end. The only question now, he is able to be around 14-16 point per game scorer on solid efficiency or will his shooting slump continue.
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Re: So how much longer til we admit Klay is cooked? 

Post#67 » by DonaldSanders » Thu Nov 17, 2022 11:31 pm

Ben Simmons and Russell Westbrook have better FG% and eFG% than Klay this season.
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Re: So how much longer til we admit Klay is cooked? 

Post#68 » by CobraCommander » Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:18 am

DonaldSanders wrote:Ben Simmons and Russell Westbrook have better FG% and eFG% than Klay this season.

Klay isn’t cooked- he is still recovering-

Klay played ball every damn day for a decade plus then couldn’t run ball for nearly years… it’s gonna take him some time to get back to being a reasonably good player. I don’t think the Warriors can afford to wait for him. But someone gonna get a good wing on the cheap next year and be better for it
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Re: So how much longer til we admit Klay is cooked? 

Post#69 » by celticfan42487 » Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:26 am

Clyde Frazier wrote:Shocker the guy isn't the same after missing 2 full NBA seasons. He's also more important to the warriors than he'd be to the average team, so can't take his stats at face value. 19 PPG on 55% TS en route to the title is a lot more relevant than a rough start to the regular season.


People are going to miss this so just requoting the important part so they realize to STFU for at least 60 more games.

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Re: So how much longer til we admit Klay is cooked? 

Post#70 » by floppymoose » Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:42 am

^ I hope you are right but I'm betting you aren't.
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Post#71 » by MTJazzv3 » Fri Nov 18, 2022 2:54 am

DirtyDez wrote:It really sucks that injuries are going to rob the twilight of his career. In the 19’ finals before getting hurt he was playing the best ball of his life.

Yeah, that is what happens in pro sports. You're good until injuries rob you of your edge over others which made you get that contract in the first place. Feel their pain for players who are not, but if he isn't good with the money his has made already. Give zero f.... about him - he needs no love, he has already earned enough money to end his b-ball career and fund the next 3 generations.
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Re: So how much longer til we admit Klay is cooked? 

Post#72 » by celticfan42487 » Fri Nov 18, 2022 4:19 am

floppymoose wrote:^ I hope you are right but I'm betting you aren't.


Well if nothing else, the stats say the Starting Lineup is elite. And the Offense is elite.

The defense is sinking the Warriors job and that isn't Klay's job and has never been a Small Guard's job.

That's on Draymond.

So even if it isn't right 3-4 months from now (which it would be odd he was able to do it last playoffs and gets worse a year removed from injury) that's not really the issue for the Warriors regardless.

Maybe y'all with throw a couple firsts and find a Clint Capela or something at the trade deadline to throw in the rotation so you can always have one of him and Looney out there if Draymond isn't able to make up for everyone as apart of the "death lineup" anymore (and Wiseman doesn't pan out) and just take a slightly different approach by upgrading the Center rotation as the checkmate for depth.
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Re: So how much longer til we admit Klay is cooked? 

Post#73 » by Onlytimewilltel » Fri Nov 18, 2022 5:48 am

celticfan42487 wrote:
floppymoose wrote:^ I hope you are right but I'm betting you aren't.


Well if nothing else, the stats say the Starting Lineup is elite. And the Offense is elite.

The defense is sinking the Warriors job and that isn't Klay's job and has never been a Small Guard's job.

That's on Draymond.

So even if it isn't right 3-4 months from now (which it would be odd he was able to do it last playoffs and gets worse a year removed from injury) that's not really the issue for the Warriors regardless.

Maybe y'all with throw a couple firsts and find a Clint Capela or something at the trade deadline to throw in the rotation so you can always have one of him and Looney out there if Draymond isn't able to make up for everyone as apart of the "death lineup" anymore (and Wiseman doesn't pan out) and just take a slightly different approach by upgrading the Center rotation as the checkmate for depth.



:lol: :lol:

He was one of the better guards in the entire league on defense. Now players take turns on him he can’t guard a chair. And that doesn’t matter in your opinion since it’s not his job? Yea… I’m sure everyone blowing by Klay now is Draymonds fault… :lol:
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Re: So how much longer til we admit Klay is cooked? 

Post#74 » by Onlytimewilltel » Fri Nov 18, 2022 5:52 am

celticfan42487 wrote:
floppymoose wrote:^ I hope you are right but I'm betting you aren't.


Well if nothing else, the stats say the Starting Lineup is elite. And the Offense is elite.

The defense is sinking the Warriors job and that isn't Klay's job and has never been a Small Guard's job.

That's on Draymond.

So even if it isn't right 3-4 months from now (which it would be odd he was able to do it last playoffs and gets worse a year removed from injury) that's not really the issue for the Warriors regardless.

Maybe y'all with throw a couple firsts and find a Clint Capela or something at the trade deadline to throw in the rotation so you can always have one of him and Looney out there if Draymond isn't able to make up for everyone as apart of the "death lineup" anymore (and Wiseman doesn't pan out) and just take a slightly different approach by upgrading the Center rotation as the checkmate for depth.



:lol: :lol:

He was one of the better guards in the entire league on defense. Now players take turns on him he can’t guard a chair. And that doesn’t matter in your opinion since it’s not his job? Yea… I’m sure everyone blowing by Klay now is Draymonds fault… :lol:
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Re: So how much longer til we admit Klay is cooked? 

Post#75 » by Onlytimewilltel » Fri Nov 18, 2022 5:59 am

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DonaldSanders wrote:Ben Simmons and Russell Westbrook have better FG% and eFG% than Klay this season.

Klay isn’t cooked- he is still recovering-

Klay played ball every damn day for a decade plus then couldn’t run ball for nearly years… it’s gonna take him some time to get back to being a reasonably good player. I don’t think the Warriors can afford to wait for him. But someone gonna get a good wing on the cheap next year and be better for it


What are you talking about? Klay is under contract still through next year, how is someone gonna get him on yhe cheap next year? Is he getting cut?
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Re: So how much longer til we admit Klay is cooked? 

Post#76 » by CobraCommander » Fri Nov 18, 2022 6:47 am

Onlytimewilltel wrote:
CobraCommander wrote:
DonaldSanders wrote:Ben Simmons and Russell Westbrook have better FG% and eFG% than Klay this season.

Klay isn’t cooked- he is still recovering-

Klay played ball every damn day for a decade plus then couldn’t run ball for nearly years… it’s gonna take him some time to get back to being a reasonably good player. I don’t think the Warriors can afford to wait for him. But someone gonna get a good wing on the cheap next year and be better for it


What are you talking about? Klay is under contract still through next year, how is someone gonna get him on yhe cheap next year? Is he getting cut?

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Re: So how much longer til we admit Klay is cooked? 

Post#77 » by Lalouie » Fri Nov 18, 2022 6:54 am

I got my kitchen timer on
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Re: So how much longer til we admit Klay is cooked? 

Post#78 » by Mamba Mentality » Fri Nov 18, 2022 6:56 am

For a guy who is struggling with his shot you would think he would scale back the number of shots he takes off the dribble, which was never really part of his game to begin with. He needs to take a strong look in the mirror and accept that he’s no longer the second Splash Bro, but there is still a significant role that he can play for this team it’s just going to come down to whether he can put his ego aside.
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Re: So how much longer til we admit Klay is cooked? 

Post#79 » by Exp0sed » Fri Nov 18, 2022 7:21 am

CobraCommander wrote:
DonaldSanders wrote:Ben Simmons and Russell Westbrook have better FG% and eFG% than Klay this season.

Klay isn’t cooked- he is still recovering-

Klay played ball every damn day for a decade plus then couldn’t run ball for nearly years… it’s gonna take him some time to get back to being a reasonably good player. I don’t think the Warriors can afford to wait for him. But someone gonna get a good wing on the cheap next year and be better for it
Even if it's true and i'm on the camp that belives that to be true - he can recover from the bench just as well

Keep training, keep playing
It's not like some magic whereas if he starts and plays 30 mins he can recover and if he plays 20 from the bench that he can't

If his ego can't handle it then shucks
At this rate the Warriors his 'recovery' is going to cost the Dubs a playoff berth..

Meaning by the time he 'recovers' theyll be 2 far down the standings and that's IF he recovers.

Klay starting rn is to the detriment of the team
The Dubs were elite last season b4 he came back, Kerr needs to stop playing games and bench him.
If that means they need another PG type, ball handler and playmaker in a pinch - they can add one via a small trade or a vet min \ g-league signing etc



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Re: So how much longer til we admit Klay is cooked? 

Post#80 » by Sane » Fri Nov 18, 2022 8:06 am

All this underdog stuff is going to make great content for their eventual Netflix series.

Down in the dumps, youngsters trolling them, media not believing in them even though they had a title, doubts start to set because of age, curtain thought to be closing...

Great drama. They'll have the best record in the NBA post ASB.

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