DPOY and All-Defense Thread 2023 (FINAL poll reset)

Post #61 » by **cupcakesnake** » Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:25 pm

PennSports wrote:Embiid is not getting enough buzz. Leading a top 5 defense when the 2nd best defensive player on the team is 6'1 DeAnthony Melton. Thybulle not even getting minutes this year.

PJ Tucker also exists. When Embiid and Tucker play together, it's pretty impossible to score. No question that Embiid is the defensive anchor in Phili though. He always deserves buzz.

Dacost · Post #62 » by **Dacost** » Tue Dec 13, 2022 5:22 am

Jaren jackson jr carrier high/franchise record 8 blocks.

eyeatoma · Post #63 » by **eyeatoma** » Tue Dec 13, 2022 5:26 am

Yup, Embiid needs to be on this list.

TheLand13 · Post #64 » by **TheLand13** » Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:52 am

Roger Murdock wrote:Seems like Lopez and OG are first team locks at this point. Who else?

I think Mobley deserves credit as a 1st or 2nd team guy.
I think Tatum will make 1st team.
JJJ if healthy long enough?
AD?
Giannis is a staple pick

Thats 7 of 10 potential names. Who else might get in?

It's more likely that Allen gets in than Mobley, although I think both deserve recognition.

SHAQ32 · Post #65 » by **SHAQ32** » Wed Dec 14, 2022 1:37 am

Who would've thought a center with a career 7.4 rebounds per 36 minutes could be an early-season DPOY favorite?

DrCoach · Post #66 » by **DrCoach** » Wed Dec 14, 2022 5:04 am

Mitch Robinson

ChumboChappati · Post #67 » by **ChumboChappati** » Wed Dec 14, 2022 5:04 pm

Why is OG leading the poll over Brook Lopez? its preposterous.

ryan in Maine · Post #68 » by **ryan in Maine** » Wed Dec 14, 2022 5:05 pm

SHAQ32 wrote:Who would've thought a center with a career 7.4 rebounds per 36 minutes could be an early-season DPOY favorite?

Have you seen him boxing out though?

Ron Swanson · Post #69 » by **Ron Swanson** » Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:46 pm

The frontcourt is just gonna be absolutely loaded this year.

Brook Lopez
Jarrett Allen
Giannis
Bam
Jaren Jackson
Embiid
Anthony Davis
Draymond

And that's not even getting into guys like Tatum and PJ Tucker who you could probably sneak in at SF if you don't care about positional designations. I'm not sure who you kick off that list because all these dudes have compelling cases right now.

Colbinii · Post #70 » by **Colbinii** » Wed Dec 14, 2022 8:20 pm

The 76ers are giving up a league leading 32.6% on 3 Pointers this year. League average is 35.5% on 3 Point Shots. Since 3P % given up is inherently random statistically, the 76ers [accounting for randomness] would actually have a 113.1 Drtg which is 18th in the NBA.

Dacost · Post #71 » by **Dacost** » Thu Dec 15, 2022 12:05 am

Ron Swanson wrote:The frontcourt is just gonna be absolutely loaded this year.

Brook Lopez
Jarrett Allen
Giannis
Bam
Jaren Jackson
Embiid
Anthony Davis
Draymond

And that's not even getting into guys like Tatum and PJ Tucker who you could probably sneak in at SF if you don't care about positional designations. I'm not sure who you kick off that list because all these dudes have compelling cases right now.

who are you kicking off the list though?

One of the 2 bucks???
Davis/Draymond/ Bam because of record and injury's??

Decisions will need to be made.

GreatWhiteStiff · Post #72 » by **GreatWhiteStiff** » Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:24 am

eyeatoma wrote:Yup, Embiid needs to be on this list.

I sometimes wonder what % of your posts are 8 words are less and contain the word Embiid.

Exp0sed · Post #73 » by **Exp0sed** » Thu Dec 15, 2022 1:23 pm

Colbinii wrote:The 76ers are giving up a league leading 32.6% on 3 Pointers this year. League average is 35.5% on 3 Point Shots. Since 3P % given up is inherently random statistically, the 76ers [accounting for randomness] would actually have a 113.1 Drtg which is 18th in the NBA.

a 1\3rd if the season has passed, that's alot of 3PA

what I mean is, the sample size's too big for it to be just random
i'd imagine some of that can be explained by random variance but not all. seems like they're good at defending the 3

Colbinii · Post #74 » by **Colbinii** » Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:16 pm

Exp0sed wrote:
Colbinii wrote:The 76ers are giving up a league leading 32.6% on 3 Pointers this year. League average is 35.5% on 3 Point Shots. Since 3P % given up is inherently random statistically, the 76ers [accounting for randomness] would actually have a 113.1 Drtg which is 18th in the NBA.

a 1\3rd if the season has passed, that's alot of 3PA

what I mean is, the sample size's too big for it to be just random
i'd imagine some of that can be explained by random variance but not all. seems like they're good at defending the 3

If you think the 76ers are great at defending the 3, that's fine, but I don't think Embiid has much to do with it.

Roger Murdock · Post #75 » by **Roger Murdock** » Thu Dec 15, 2022 7:02 pm

ChumboChappati wrote:Why is OG leading the poll over Brook Lopez? its preposterous.

Board demographics. If a Raptors player is ever involved in a poll and they aren’t winning it means they aren’t even close to deserving.

OG has been great but he could be the 7th best defensive player in the league and leading the poll because Raptors fans always stand by their guys, never criticize the team, and band up against other players who are competition.

They do the SEC football thing where you throw everything behind supporting the conference and show a strong united front in all situations

eyeatoma · Post #76 » by **eyeatoma** » Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:22 pm

GreatWhiteStiff wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:Yup, Embiid needs to be on this list.

I sometimes wonder what % of your posts are 8 words are less and contain the word Embiid.

Lol I will not deny that I post quite a bit about him.

I'd say the majority of my posts are about him. Only positive things the Sixers really have going for them apart from Maxey.

Post #77 » by **bisme37** » Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:32 pm

Hopefully my guy Timelord enters this convo as the year progresses. Sounds like he's making his season debut tomorrow.

tooler · Post #78 » by **tooler** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:46 am

bisme37 wrote:Hopefully my guy Timelord enters this convo as the year progresses. Sounds like he's making his season debut tomorrow.

It's going to be a rough start with two games against the league's hottest new championship contender.

esvl · Post #79 » by **esvl** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:27 am

What is the top-5 on-ball defenders in the league?

mrmsix6 · Post #80 » by **mrmsix6** » Sat Dec 17, 2022 5:47 am

Evan Mobley is a better defensive player than Jarrett Allen and also better than half the guys on this list.

Who's on your DPOY ballot? (Pick 3.)