Bornstellar wrote:jayu70 wrote:Bornstellar wrote:And an unprotected swap in 2026. Spurs basically own their draft for 3 straight years. You think that's small potatoes?
You do understand how a swap works though right? Hawks will still have a pick in 2026.
And you understand if your team implodes and end up with a higher draft pick it becomes ours and you get wherever we pick (which may end up as a later first by then)? Along with no picks the year before and after?
I guess man. I didn't say it was the worst trade ever, but it wasn't a very good trade for ATL imo
You're conflating rumors and assuming a pick swap will have a devastating affect. Not to mention, this assumes the Spurs are even good by then. There's just so many variables floating here.
I mean if we implode because Trae Young had a season ending injury, does that justify it being a bad trade? You can't predict something like that.
Did we implode because we had a fire sale? Assuming one of the reason this is even being discussed is because of the BS report that someone is
predicting Trae will demand a trade. Let us assume he does and we give him his trade, we will certainly recoup value at that time. So does not having our own pick outweigh what we could possibly get in a Trae Young return? We haven't even discussed other player being traded yet
Does Murray have a big improvement to his game out of nowhere that was unforeseen? He's only 26 right now.
Do the Hawks improve with a different coach? The team has made a run to the ECF after making a coaching change.
Lets be real here. The Hawks traded 2 unprotected first and agreed to swap a pick in years where their core group(including their star player) are all signed for except in '27. So at best for the Spurs, the likeliest outcome is, we're a treadmill team those years, and the picks end up late lotto to late teens. That was for a player going into his age 26 season on a team friendly deal, and currently averaging 20-5-6 with almost 2 SPG and filled major holes we had.
You can assume all 3 picks end up top 3-5, but that's a high end gamble and requires a lot of unlucky breaks from the Hawks. If nothing changes, the Hawks will still have Collins, Hunter, Trae, AJ, JJ, and OO until the summer of '26. All under the age of 28. So the '26-'27 year is the earliest possibility of our pick really mattering for the Spurs as Hunter is the only player guaranteed to still be around by then.
That said, every trade for a young, talented player isn't going to equate to getting a team over the hump at that very moment. We didn't mortgage our entire future on 1 player like the Lakers or in this example, the Wolves. For us, it was a drop in the bucket compared to what Minnesota gave up for a guy over 30 on $200 million deal not even making the impact he was did before. Even without comparing the two trades, it still was a drop in the bucket for what we got so far. We still have our '23 pick, kept all of our young guys, have 2 picks in '24, and are essentially losing only 2 picks from '25-'27.
