Cam Thomas fined for anti-gay remark

[vxmike]

Steep? It's 40k for a guy earning 10M. That's 0,004%. It's 40$ out of 10K.

That’s still a lot of money. I get your point but I guarantee you he views it as somewhat significant

That's true. I'll give you this, 1% of 10M is way more money than 1% of 10k. But since I've never had 10M, don't know if they feel about 40k as I feel about 40$. If I'm ever rich i'll get back to you lol.

Cam is making $2.1m this year and it’s probably closer to $1m after taxes in NYC.

$40K is a ridiculous fine for this for him.

[Pharmcat]

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/35631269/cam-thomas-fined-40k-anti-gay-remark-interview

Where is the outrage from nets owner , a suspension , and the public humiliation? Just goes to show the kyrie thing was personal and he is held to a different standards.

My friend, you have to realize that what Kyrie did (platforming a blatantly anti-Semitic movie based on a book that denies the Holocaust while also pushing a number of anti-Semitic conspiracy theories) and then doubling down on it was orders of magnitude worse than Cam Thomas making an anti-gay remark and then apologizing for it. There really isn't a comparison between the two.

Anthony Edwards made a much worse anti-gay remark earlier the season, he apologized for it profusely and it was soon forgotten. In general, people are usually willing to forget and forgive if someone admits their mistake. It simply took Kyrie around a month and a half to do that.

Kyrie didn’t platform it , Amazon did. It was also off company time while this was during company time (I.e. mandatory post game interviews)

[gottamakeit]

I never understood the outrage with "no homo", its not anti-gay.

Its basically just hetero males getting it straight that they don't play for the other team after making a remark that could give gay men the wrong message. We don't want them getting the wrong message. Its just proper communication. Keep doing you, Mr Cam Thomas. The NBA should know better. But of course not.

“Homo” is obviously a well-known slur for gay people and it’s just disingenuous to pretend otherwise.

The use of "homo" as a derogatory term for homosexual individuals has roots in prejudice and discrimination against the LGBTQ+ community. In the past, homosexuality was widely stigmatized and homosexuality was classified as a mental disorder by many psychiatric professionals. This led to a negative connotation of the term "homo," which was used to insult and demean homosexual individuals.

Over time, the LGBTQ+ community has fought for their rights and for the recognition of their identity and dignity. They have advocated for the use of language that is respectful and affirming, and have worked to reclaim terms like "gay" and "lesbian" that were previously used as insults. However, the use of "homo" as a slur has persisted in some quarters, and it is still considered offensive by many people.

When/if the term Homo is reclaimed by the LGBTQ+ community, I suppose it will be okay to use again.
IMO it's silly to ban words that have legitimate uses (besides just being derogatory).

[UglyBugBall]

I love cancel culture. Far more things should be cancelled.

You just offended me bro. Out you go. Canceled.

[Fade_awayJ]

10yrs ago Roy Hibbert was fined $75k for saying the same thing..

[Pharmcat]

I honestly dont even see how "no homo" = "anti-gay"...
Just seems like they are clarifying their remarks are coming from a platonic point of view and don't insinuate a romantic interest.
What am I missing?

https://uws-promethean.com/2020/03/10/on-why-saying-no-homo-is-perpetuating-homophobia/amp/

[Jabroni Lames]

Is he allowed to say "Yes, Hetero"?

[GoHeatGo_007]

I miss the old NBA. Like in the 80s. The NBA today is such trash. Adam Silver is a clown. I don't understand why they keep promoting the NBA as some sort of fashion show when the players enter the building. Do people really care what outfits the players wear to games? It's always some kind of agenda they keep promoting instead of focusing on improving the game or at least go back to the way it used to be. Today's NBA is so soft & everyone is sensitive. Makes me so mad that they've ruined the game because I grew up on the NBA in the 70s & 80s.

[BrianInPhilly]

Shame on ESPN for creating a headline calling this an “anti-gay” remark. A total lie trying to tarnish Cam Thomas’ reputation. Why can’t he sue them again for flat out lieing?

Saying you are not something does not equal being against that thing. Unless human language has changed.

If I say I’m not Black, is that anti black?

It’s just ludicrous. Does anybody know anybody, a gay person who is offended at “no homo” ?

It’s fake outrage and shame on the NBA for catering to it. Then people wonder why athletes sound like robots in interviews and have no personality.

But hey, players can tweet all they want about murder, degrading language in other ways, and who cares right. “No homo” is so much more damaging. SMH

[Wallace_Wallace]

10yrs ago Roy Hibbert was fined $75k for saying the same thing..

Damn, that was before inflation too. I'm gonna take a wild guess, that's about a 6 month worth of mortgage for his house?

[YogurtProducer]

I miss the old NBA. Like in the 80s. The NBA today is such trash. Adam Silver is a clown. I don't understand why they keep promoting the NBA as some sort of fashion show when the players enter the building. Do people really care what outfits the players wear to games? It's always some kind of agenda they keep promoting instead of focusing on improving the game or at least go back to the way it used to be. Today's NBA is so soft & everyone is sensitive. Makes me so mad that they've ruined the game because I grew up on the NBA in the 70s & 80s.

Cool

[UglyBugBall]

I never understood the outrage with "no homo", its not anti-gay.

Its basically just hetero males getting it straight that they don't play for the other team after making a remark that could give gay men the wrong message. We don't want them getting the wrong message. Its just proper communication. Keep doing you, Mr Cam Thomas. The NBA should know better. But of course not.

“Homo” is obviously a well-known slur for gay people and it’s just disingenuous to pretend otherwise.

The use of "homo" as a derogatory term for homosexual individuals has roots in prejudice and discrimination against the LGBTQ+ community. In the past, homosexuality was widely stigmatized and homosexuality was classified as a mental disorder by many psychiatric professionals. This led to a negative connotation of the term "homo," which was used to insult and demean homosexual individuals.

Over time, the LGBTQ+ community has fought for their rights and for the recognition of their identity and dignity. They have advocated for the use of language that is respectful and affirming, and have worked to reclaim terms like "gay" and "lesbian" that were previously used as insults. However, the use of "homo" as a slur has persisted in some quarters, and it is still considered offensive by many people.

When/if the term Homo is reclaimed by the LGBTQ+ community, I suppose it will be okay to use again.
IMO it's silly to ban words that have legitimate uses (besides just being derogatory).

Doesn't context matter? If a high school kid calls Justin Biebers new music video 'gay', is that kid actually insulting gay people now or just that music video? And is he now a homophobe?

Sometimes people just use words in a sentence without meaning to make a larger point about the group that the word might somehow connect back to. It requires mental gymnastics to get offended by it, because you have to make all those connections that you just did to do it.

I doubt Cam wants gay people imprisoned or their rights taken away. I doubt he even dislikes them personally or would refuse service from someone that's gay. To me that is what makes someone a homophobe. Cam just used a word that came to mind and I doubt he meant it as anything more than that.

Some people use the term homo derogatorily towards gays. Actual homophobes do exist and they will sometimes say gay. But this wasn't that. Context should matter.

[GoHeatGo_007]

I miss the old NBA. Like in the 80s. The NBA today is such trash. Adam Silver is a clown. I don't understand why they keep promoting the NBA as some sort of fashion show when the players enter the building. Do people really care what outfits the players wear to games? It's always some kind of agenda they keep promoting instead of focusing on improving the game or at least go back to the way it used to be. Today's NBA is so soft & everyone is sensitive. Makes me so mad that they've ruined the game because I grew up on the NBA in the 70s & 80s.

Cool

Get lost.

[Wallace_Wallace]

Is he allowed to say "Yes, Hetero"?

I have not personally done either, but I'm guessing a name change is easier than sex change/gender reassignment?

[BrianInPhilly]

It's a small fine and I see why the nets would do that. I wouldn't make a deal out of it, just a small mistake, but there's no need to get offended bc they fined him for it.
It's clearly wrong to say on TV "no-homo". It adds to being wrong you would never hear a gay person say "no-hetero" or a woman say "no-homo" for that matter when complimenting the gender(s) they're not attracted to.

Please share your list of acceptable language. Let’s all agree on it.

The above is THE POINT. Players literally talk trash all the time during games, should they be fined? If a player says “I like women” - should they be fined? How exactly is that different than saying “no homo”?

People like you are the issue acting like people perplexed why the NBA is policing language are somehow “offended”. No I’m not offended. I’m just blind to common, rational sense and can think logically.

[bargs4mvp]

Wonder what tomorrow new outrage will be, oh yeah kyrie might sneeze…


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[jokeboy86]

If he would've said pause it would've flown under the radar but I've never liked the no homo phrase since Dipset started saying it and I've always gone back to this line everytime I hear it:

"put it out, let the streets talk, no promo/
a real man shouldn't have to say no homo"

[Jeremy Lin 7]

Yea because saying "No Homo" is soooo offensive in this context. SMH at cancel culture.

I'm pretty everyone on this board has said this exact same phrase or even the word "Pause". Does that make me homophobic? of course not.

[BrianInPhilly]

(Double post)

[Nuntius]

Where is the outrage from nets owner , a suspension , and the public humiliation? Just goes to show the kyrie thing was personal and he is held to a different standards.

My friend, you have to realize that what Kyrie did (platforming a blatantly anti-Semitic movie based on a book that denies the Holocaust while also pushing a number of anti-Semitic conspiracy theories) and then doubling down on it was orders of magnitude worse than Cam Thomas making an anti-gay remark and then apologizing for it. There really isn't a comparison between the two.

Anthony Edwards made a much worse anti-gay remark earlier the season, he apologized for it profusely and it was soon forgotten. In general, people are usually willing to forget and forgive if someone admits their mistake. It simply took Kyrie around a month and a half to do that.

Kyrie didn’t platform it , Amazon did. It was also off company time while this was during company time (I.e. mandatory post game interviews)

Both Kyrie and Amazon platformed it.