GSW Dynasty is Over.

[Shock Defeat]

The most lucky, flukiest team in nba history.

Injuries to opponents, a player that swears at refs and nut kicks players often without consequence and the most disgraceful run of moving screens ever.

The league wanted a golden boy and simply created it out of nothing.

Curry wouldn’t get a shot off in the late 80s and early 90s and would barely be a bench spark for most teams.

30 years following this league and never seen anything so laughable as the Warriors.

Preach, Preach!

But you can't luck and fluke your way to 4 rings though, no matter how you try to argue against it. I can understand getting 1 lucky ring if you insist, but 4? That's not a fluke.

Kyrie and Love injured in the first finals against the Cavs, then signing KD to win two more and the last against the young Celtics.


Warriors winning 4 is the same as Nash being gifted 2 MVPs back to back.

Even when they had KD they needed an injury to Chris Paul and the refs helping them to get past Houston.

[dc]

Lmao, nobody is trading Steph. Draymond likely opts out to be with his BFF LeBron and Klay or Poole might get traded. Retool, not rebuild.

Last run for the core trio being together but you can still build a team with Steph.

It’s not over - Steph too damn good- retool with Wigs, Curry and Possibly Poole- get Dray out and replace him with talent and they back in the mix

Klay also can’t be your second best scoring threat anymore

The problem is on the defensive side. They're just old and slow on that end and it's been a problem since day 1 of the season.

Back in the day, Klay would be guarding Ja or Fox and doing a good job (see his job on Parker in 2013). But this isn't 23 year old Klay, it's 33 year old Klay after 2 major lower body injuries. Klay being able to guard the other team's quick PG was a BIG part of their defensive scheme, but obviously he's past the point of being able to do that.

The Warriors would need to make major moves to get younger guys around Steph on the offseason, if they really want to squeeze another year or 2 out of the tail end of his prime. And not just younger guys, but younger guys who are ready to play.

[Kobe187]

Not over until it’s over. GS is a totally different animal at home.

[JRoy]

Bold to call the GSW dynasty over when they’re down 0-2.

[Warriorfan]

Curry is all NBA. Klay had a productive year and Green is all defensive team.
GP2 good enough to make all defensive team

Wiggins and Looney starting their prime.

Poole and Kuminga young enough to improve

And yes last years champs.
If they could play defense on the road as good as at home they are 50plus win IMO.

Window is always open with a generational type player playing all NBA 1st team like Curry

[DoctorX]

I don't know if their Dynasty is over, but they are low key an unlikeable team now. When they first came up I think people loved that they played differently, had a nice superstar in Curry, had home grown talent and built their roster up to a Championship team.

Now after years of winning and being in the spotlight, we see how much of a dirty player/petulant child Green is, see how much of a sore loser that Klay is, some people don't like Iggy and how he did Memphis dirty, Poole being a bit of a primadonna, Lamb rape allegations, Kerr's holier-than-thou hypocrisy shtick.

They have that you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain vibe now.

I felt during their first title run they were likable outside of Draymond but after they won the first title they morphed into a bunch of douchebags. It went to their heads, and they also took on Draymond's persona.

[CS707]

Bold take OP

[dc]

Curry is all NBA. Klay had a productive year and Green is all defensive team.
GP2 good enough to make all defensive team

Wiggins and Looney starting their prime.

Poole and Kuminga young enough to improve

And yes last years champs.
If they could play defense on the road as good as at home they are 50plus win IMO.

As I mentioned above, Klay's defense in his prime on opposing PGs was a key part of their scheme. But with his age, mileage and injuries, it's obviously no longer an option and they don't have the luxury of that go to strategy anymore.

Poole and Kuminga can definitely get better, but I don't know if it's enough to make a difference in their defense.

[Asianiac_24]

The most lucky, flukiest team in nba history.

Injuries to opponents, a player that swears at refs and nut kicks players often without consequence and the most disgraceful run of moving screens ever.

The league wanted a golden boy and simply created it out of nothing.

Curry wouldn’t get a shot off in the late 80s and early 90s and would barely be a bench spark for most teams.

30 years following this league and never seen anything so laughable as the Warriors.

Preach, Preach!

But you can't luck and fluke your way to 4 rings though, no matter how you try to argue against it. I can understand getting 1 lucky ring if you insist, but 4? That's not a fluke.

Kyrie and Love injured in the first finals against the Cavs, then signing KD to win two more and the last against the young Celtics.


Warriors winning 4 is the same as Nash being gifted 2 MVPs back to back.

Even when they had KD they needed an injury to Chris Paul and the refs helping them to get past Houston.

Remind me what happened when KD went down the following year against Houston?

[OGSactownballer]

I'd wait and see before sounding the alarm. The Kings almost choked Game 1. The true test of a team is how they show on the road/through adversity. Let's see the Kings in a hostile environment

Uh second best road record in the league this season and 9th in overall defense on the road while still being the number one offense.

Oh and half of Sacramento is buying tickets for an evening trip to the City for the games.

Game one was always going to be the toughest for a team just starting their run. Game two the gloves came off and the Kings literally just took every shot and gave it back harder. Curry for a taste of the full force of a defensive guard just as fast as him and in the words of a close Dubs fan “looked like and tired and drained old man” out there. If Draymond isn’t suspended for game three I’ll be shocked because Adam Silver was sitting in attendance last night and I am sure is NOT pleased.

Yeah as a Kings fan I’m feeling pretty good here and I go with what others have said - this is the end and last year was the last hurrah and they still Had solid role playing vets there. The young guys they drafted aren’t panning out. The core is old and beat up after years of extended runs into the postseason. And you don’t build a new team around a 35 year old who is also going to rapidly age soon because of the years of body abuse.

It’s time to make good trades for young guys and picks and rebuild. They sacrificed re tooling for one last chip and hey I can’t criticize that. But now it’s pretty obvious.

[jman3134]

Too soon.

[Bornstellar]

I thought their run last year was pretty unremarkable and they benefited greatly (again) from playing a slew of injured teams or inexperienced teams. In a normal season not mired by a ton of injuries they probably don't even get to the conference finals. When they won and there was a thread about them repeating I said no way in hell they were going to get back to the Finals because they were extremely lucky to be there at all. And here we are. It happens to all good teams and I don't see a Kawhi Leonard + a bunch of other elite vet role players on their roster to make their aging core relevant again like the 2013/2014 Spurs. This is definitely the end for them as currently constructed, imo

[The High Cyde]

I’ll have a nice pour of cold beer or chilled wine when it happens, trust.

Maybe some tacos as well cause **** it!

[OGSactownballer]

Lmao, nobody is trading Steph. Draymond likely opts out to be with his BFF LeBron and Klay or Poole might get traded. Retool, not rebuild.

Last run for the core trio being together but you can still build a team with Steph.

It’s not over - Steph too damn good- retool with Wigs, Curry and Possibly Poole- get Dray out and replace him with talent and they back in the mix

Klay also can’t be your second best scoring threat anymore

The problem is on the defensive side. They're just old and slow on that end and it's been a problem since day 1 of the season.

Back in the day, Klay would be guarding Ja or Fox and doing a good job (see his job on Parker in 2013). But this isn't 23 year old Klay, it's 33 year old Klay after 2 major lower body injuries. Klay being able to guard the other team's quick PG was a BIG part of their defensive scheme, but obviously he's past the point of being able to do that.

The Warriors would need to make major moves to get younger guys around Steph on the offseason, if they really want to squeeze another year or 2 out of the tail end of his prime. And not just younger guys, but younger guys who are ready to play.

A great point that I forgot to include about Klay. He doesn’t have the lateral speed or ability any more that made him a great positional defender in space and a great all time two way player. It just isn’t going to happen after the types of injuries he had and his age that’s a Normal progression. They want to make Wiggins be that but he’s really just a little too big to guard guys with the speed of Fox or the length and speed of Monk. He’s most effective against big SG’s to PF’s really and he is still a streaky shooter. And GP2 is basically a junk baller role player. But I’m the end of it he’s only effective in a three guard lineup because he’s 6’2”.

Poole - idk man, it’s looking more and more like he was busting ass for a contract last year or he is just demanned by the off season crap with Draymond. But he simply isn’t effective the way he was last year.

Just all in all it looks like the fading last gasps of a once great team and nothing says it more than trying to come out last night to start the game playing thug ball and then choking it up nine times in the first quarter. It’s not their game but they okayed like a bunch of pissed off old guys in rec league.

[Red8911]

When will we learn? Nothing is truly over with the Warriors until it is really over. They are an explosive team and are borderline unbeatable at home. I won't count on anything until it actually says eliminated next to their name.

This time they are older and it shows. They are still a good team to make playoffs but championship is highly doubtful. This group won’t win another one again.

[Warriorfan]

Lmao, nobody is trading Steph. Draymond likely opts out to be with his BFF LeBron and Klay or Poole might get traded. Retool, not rebuild.

Last run for the core trio being together but you can still build a team with Steph.

It’s not over - Steph too damn good- retool with Wigs, Curry and Possibly Poole- get Dray out and replace him with talent and they back in the mix

Klay also can’t be your second best scoring threat anymore

The problem is on the defensive side. They're just old and slow on that end and it's been a problem since day 1 of the season.

Back in the day, Klay would be guarding Ja or Fox and doing a good job (see his job on Parker in 2013). But this isn't 23 year old Klay, it's 33 year old Klay after 2 major lower body injuries. Klay being able to guard the other team's quick PG was a BIG part of their defensive scheme, but obviously he's past the point of being able to do that.

The Warriors would need to make major moves to get younger guys around Steph on the offseason, if they really want to squeeze another year or 2 out of the tail end of his prime. And not just younger guys, but younger guys who are ready to play.

Will evidence GS having 3rd best DRTG at home.
That potentially they are more than good enough
Plus Wiggins missed half of season. GP2 only was able to contribute a handful of games

https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/advanced?Location=Home

[OGSactownballer]

I don't know if their Dynasty is over, but they are low key an unlikeable team now. When they first came up I think people loved that they played differently, had a nice superstar in Curry, had home grown talent and built their roster up to a Championship team.

Now after years of winning and being in the spotlight, we see how much of a dirty player/petulant child Green is, see how much of a sore loser that Klay is, some people don't like Iggy and how he did Memphis dirty, Poole being a bit of a primadonna, Lamb rape allegations, Kerr's holier-than-thou hypocrisy shtick.

They have that you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain vibe now.

I felt during their first title run they were likable outside of Draymond but after they won the first title they morphed into a bunch of douchebags. It went to their heads, and they also took on Draymond's persona.

What I find totally fascinating is how as you watch you can palpably see that Harrison Barnes is REALLY trying to stick it to them - especially Draymond and Klay. It looks like he’s been waiting a long time to show them up and he’s REALLY enjoying himself.

[DonaldSanders]

As I mentioned above, Klay's defense in his prime on opposing PGs was a key part of their scheme. But with his age, mileage and injuries, it's obviously no longer an option and they don't have the luxury of that go to strategy anymore.

Poole and Kuminga can definitely get better, but I don't know if it's enough to make a difference in their defense.

Yeah Klay's defense has been a noted issue. Last playoffs we were actually better with him off the court (on/off -11.7), hard to say that but it's true -- we needed GPII's defense more than Klay's offense.

What's weird is that our defense at home has actually been great, really highly rated. I can't quite put together why this is vs. away.

I felt during their first title run they were likable outside of Draymond but after they won the first title they morphed into a bunch of douchebags. It went to their heads, and they also took on Draymond's persona.

Just like the Spurs loved Bruce Bowen's dirty plays and took on his persona. Kicking people in the face, intentionally injuring people, you know you loved it Doc!

https://youtu.be/FAMnMFTeCdg?t=204

[LofJ]

The Warriors need a Kawhi Leonard like ascension out of nowhere from Kuminga to continue their dynasty. He needs to start if there's any chance of that happening.

[nikster]

The most lucky, flukiest team in nba history.

Injuries to opponents, a player that swears at refs and nut kicks players often without consequence and the most disgraceful run of moving screens ever.

The league wanted a golden boy and simply created it out of nothing.

Curry wouldn’t get a shot off in the late 80s and early 90s and would barely be a bench spark for most teams.

30 years following this league and never seen anything so laughable as the Warriors.

Preach, Preach!

But you can't luck and fluke your way to 4 rings though, no matter how you try to argue against it. I can understand getting 1 lucky ring if you insist, but 4? That's not a fluke.

Kyrie and Love injured in the first finals against the Cavs, then signing KD to win two more and the last against the young Celtics.


Warriors winning 4 is the same as Nash being gifted 2 MVPs back to back.

4 titles and 6 finals appearances in 8 years. Describing this dynasty as a fluke is an all time stupid take.