Curry last second shots in playoffs

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Re: Curry last second shots in playoffs 

Post#61 » by Medbrat » Tue May 9, 2023 8:13 am

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twyzted wrote:Lebron is 17-38 when trailing by 3 in the last 60 sec… but like always cherry picked stats.


That's like 45% lol


0% > 45% in this thread


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Re: Curry last second shots in playoffs 

Post#62 » by xinxin » Tue May 9, 2023 8:49 am

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triple_threat wrote:For all time great scoring guards is he one of the worst with last second shots? He has had moments in the regular season obv, but I’m unimpressed with what he’s done in the playoffs.

Not just today, but his overall body of work in the playoffs. His inability to get to the ft line at will combined with some questionable decision making are the main contributing factors imo when it comes to his last second shot making ability in the playoffs.

This is all off eye test.

EDIT - not to mention the timeout blunder vs SAC. And todays non timeout with the ball. Not taking k love to the basket. Makes you think the nerves get to him when you look at these decisions combined with the numbers someone posted below 0-12.


They have four titles. So, who cares.


I actually have to agree with this.

I guess the fact that the warriors didnt need Curry's last second heroics to win 4 titles means that they weren't relevant for the bottom line. & a testament to how great those teams were.

4 rings is 4 rings.
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Re: Curry last second shots in playoffs 

Post#63 » by Dr Aki » Tue May 9, 2023 9:14 am

The Lakers methodically, and deliberately, went after Curry to kill his legs in the 4th quarter.

Lebron, Reaves and Lonnie, each had turns punching, banging and grinding Curry's oxygen out of his lungs and legs, and never let up, and resulted in Curry's poor shooting 4th quarter.

Who knows, if Curry had more in the tank, maybe he makes those step back jumpers over AD's outstretched arms and we're now all talking about how Curry has been outplaying everyone on the Lakers in the series thus far
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Re: Curry last second shots in playoffs 

Post#64 » by makubesu » Tue May 9, 2023 10:23 am

zimpy27 wrote:Hero ball culture in the NBA is pushed by media maniacs who mythologies Jordan.

Curry usually has 2 guys or at least the best defender on him at the end and he feels he needs to take these shots because people say he should. Same people trash LeBron for passing out at end game situations. But LeBron's passing out is why he doesn't get doubled as much at the end and why he makes so many clutch plays.

Just stop buying the narrative.

I can't agree. I feel like my Celtics are so terrible in the clutch because they don't have a guy like Curry, whose able to hit shots from all over the court, and has a magnificent handle. I think he should be better at it than he is, and should probably think about where he's taking those shots from (anyone have a shot chart?)
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Re: Curry last second shots in playoffs 

Post#65 » by AussieCeltic » Tue May 9, 2023 10:59 am

Curry definitely needed to get to the rim. He could’ve taken AD off the dribble.

The real story is Klay Thompons horrible last 2 shot selections. Pull up 3’s early in the shot clock with a defender in his grill.
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Re: Curry last second shots in playoffs 

Post#66 » by Marrrcuss » Tue May 9, 2023 11:06 am

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curry is the greatest shooter this game has ever seen and lebron is the most clutch player this game has ever seen.


Jesus Christ that is a wild stat. Not the LeBron part, we all know he is insanely clutch, but I figured Curry had at least one game winner in the playoffs

If he did, we all would have that highlight burned into our memory like the one at OKC from the 2016 regular season.
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Re: Curry last second shots in playoffs 

Post#67 » by QPR » Tue May 9, 2023 11:34 am

AussieCeltic wrote:Curry definitely needed to get to the rim. He could’ve taken AD off the dribble.

The real story is Klay Thompons horrible last 2 shot selections. Pull up 3’s early in the shot clock with a defender in his grill.


It's pretty obvious that the ego takes over with those two. And probably fair enough too, given the shots both of them have consistently made throughout their careers, but there are times where it's just flat out dumb. That second Klay three attempt was brain dead.
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Re: Curry last second shots in playoffs 

Post#68 » by lambchop » Tue May 9, 2023 11:39 am

AussieCeltic wrote:Curry definitely needed to get to the rim. He could’ve taken AD off the dribble.

The real story is Klay Thompons horrible last 2 shot selections. Pull up 3’s early in the shot clock with a defender in his grill.



That paint was crowded with Schroder, Draymond and LBJ crowding the paint. Steph also dribbled the ball off his foot in the 1st attempt after which AD did a great job of hounding him and in the 2nd attempt I think he was simply too exhausted to try to get past AD again. That's why he ended up jacking up a shot that looked a lot like Poole's shot in game 1 tbh.

I really don't see Curry getting off a quality shot at the rim in that situation. It would have had to be some kind of underhand floater that I haven't seen him do since like game 7 of the series against OKC or it would have had to be one of those straight line drives that Damian Lillard does at times where he sprints at the rim and surprises you with a dunk.

So many people who attain the heights of power in this culture—celebrities, for instance—have to make a show of false humility and modesty, as if they got as far as they did by accident and not by ego or ambition.
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Re: Curry last second shots in playoffs 

Post#69 » by Dr Aki » Tue May 9, 2023 11:41 am

AussieCeltic wrote:Curry definitely needed to get to the rim. He could’ve taken AD off the dribble.

The real story is Klay Thompons horrible last 2 shot selections. Pull up 3’s early in the shot clock with a defender in his grill.


Their legs were shot. Fatigue makes mental midgets of even the most super of superstars.

Barkley saw it and he makes a very poignant observation:

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Re: Curry last second shots in playoffs 

Post#70 » by AussieCeltic » Tue May 9, 2023 11:55 am

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AussieCeltic wrote:Curry definitely needed to get to the rim. He could’ve taken AD off the dribble.

The real story is Klay Thompons horrible last 2 shot selections. Pull up 3’s early in the shot clock with a defender in his grill.


It's pretty obvious that the ego takes over with those two. And probably fair enough too, given the shots both of them have consistently made throughout their careers, but there are times where it's just flat out dumb. That second Klay three attempt was brain dead.


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Re: Curry last second shots in playoffs 

Post#71 » by jehosafats » Tue May 9, 2023 1:16 pm

Luke wrote:Can't believe somebody is crapping on Steph Curry, who had a legendary performance.

I'm a Laker fan and I'm happy, but the Warriors are a great, great team, with the best offensive player ever.

It was a fantastic game, with an surprise hero in Lonnie Walker, who had a better 4th quarter than many AT Greats.

Why we can't enjoy the games and the players without crapping too much every time on great players ?

I generally agree. Although the way they won those back-to-back titles with KD, and how they came into Cleveland and gentleman-sweeped them for a 3rd title, always bothered me. But lowkey Steph and Klay are two my favorite players of all time. Kerr is a solid coach. I go back to the Hardaway/Mullin/Richmond/Webber/Sprewell days of this franchise. They've done very well for themselves despite recently having to go with historically small lineups. They're the defending champs and remain the only team in the playoffs that looks practically unbeatable when everything is clicking.
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Re: Curry last second shots in playoffs 

Post#72 » by NyKnicks1714 » Tue May 9, 2023 1:22 pm

The numbers are bad, but clutch shooting numbers aren't a great metric for how clutch a player is, just like a random sample of 14 shots wouldn't tell you much about a player's offensive abilities in general.

If you want a good example of clutch, look at LeBron's defense on that last possession. He tells Walker to switch onto Draymond as he switches onto Klay, then he tells AD to switch onto Klay in the corner as he switches onto the cutting Wiggins. LeBron recognized the play almost immediately and blew up the hammer action before it ever had a chance, leading to Draymond's turnover. That's incredible defensive awareness and a better example of clutch in my opinion than any made jumper.
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Re: Curry last second shots in playoffs 

Post#73 » by Sedale Threatt » Tue May 9, 2023 1:23 pm

There’s no freaking way I’m judging a career like his based on a handful of possessions using some arbitrary time/shot thresholds. The way most NBA fans assess “clutch” is just dumb. There’s a lot more that goes into it than last-second shots. Say, setting a Game 7 record — on the road — with 50 points. That’s way, way more impressive to me than make-miss at the end of a game.
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Re: Curry last second shots in playoffs 

Post#74 » by Sedale Threatt » Tue May 9, 2023 1:31 pm

NyKnicks1714 wrote:The numbers are bad, but clutch shooting numbers aren't a great metric for how clutch a player is, just like a random sample of 14 shots wouldn't tell you much about a player's offensive abilities in general.

If you want a good example of clutch, look at LeBron's defense on that last possession. He tells Walker to switch onto Draymond as he switches onto Klay, then he tells AD to switch onto Klay in the corner he switches onto the cutting Wiggins. LeBron recognized the play almost immediately and blew up the hammer action before it ever had a chance, leading to Draymond's turnover. That's incredible defensive awareness and a better example of clutch in my opinion than any made jumper.


LeBron’s a great, great example of how bad many fans are at assessing “clutch,” which is kind of a dumb concept to begin with. A lot of people still think he’s some kind of choke artist when nothing could be further from the truth.

Has he had some really bad playoff letdowns? Absolutely. That’s what happens when you’re usually going deep in the playoffs every year for two decades.

But besides having a bunch of playoff game-winners, he had one huge game after another when his team needed it most in the years after his meltdown in 2011. I have the list saved somewhere but there’s like 15 or 20 monster performances facing elimination, 3-1 deficits, closing out the opposition, etc.

Dominating must-win games over the course of 40-plus minutes is far more impressive to me than whether you got some shots to fall on a microscopic fraction of your career possessions.
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Re: Curry last second shots in playoffs 

Post#75 » by MisterHibachi » Tue May 9, 2023 1:45 pm

Luke wrote:Can't believe somebody is crapping on Steph Curry, who had a legendary performance.

I'm a Laker fan and I'm happy, but the Warriors are a great, great team, with the best offensive player ever.

It was a fantastic game, with an surprise hero in Lonnie Walker, who had a better 4th quarter than many AT Greats.

Why we can't enjoy the games and the players without crapping too much every time on great players ?


No where close to a legendary performance. Lost them the game on defense (Lakers had nothing in that 4th quarter other than hunting Curry), threw away the ball randomly for no reason, and couldn't get past a 7 footer for a good shot despite two opportunities.
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Re: Curry last second shots in playoffs 

Post#76 » by Teen Girl Squad » Tue May 9, 2023 2:01 pm

In the online hottake era, people simply have standards that are too high for superstars to hit consistently. Everyone is a 'fraud' eventually. These people swear that Jordan (and others) were 30ppg+ every game, 50% shooting every game, 0 turnovers every game etc... Curry is still the best and/or most consistent player in this series.
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Re: Curry last second shots in playoffs 

Post#77 » by Pharmcat » Tue May 9, 2023 2:05 pm

QPR wrote:
AussieCeltic wrote:Curry definitely needed to get to the rim. He could’ve taken AD off the dribble.

The real story is Klay Thompons horrible last 2 shot selections. Pull up 3’s early in the shot clock with a defender in his grill.


It's pretty obvious that the ego takes over with those two. And probably fair enough too, given the shots both of them have consistently made throughout their careers, but there are times where it's just flat out dumb. That second Klay three attempt was brain dead.

What was wrong with curry shot? It went in and out can’t ask for anything more
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Re: Curry last second shots in playoffs 

Post#78 » by Lunartic » Tue May 9, 2023 2:06 pm

So far the cope posting in the face of Curry making terrible clutch decisions

-" who cares he has 4 rings?"

-"you're just a hater he had a brilliant performance

-"he beat lebron years ago so that means he's clutch"
-"They would have lost the game in the first quarter if Curry was never born so let's excuse horrible decisions b.c the game isn't 48 mins"

-"the stats are cherry picked he's still not clutch but I feel the need to say they're cherry picked"

-"pls plz pls guys let's appreciate gratenes and never criticize it makes me upset to be critical of gurry"

Anything else bros? Let's keep the list updated
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Re: Curry last second shots in playoffs 

Post#79 » by axeman23 » Tue May 9, 2023 2:07 pm

Mamba Mentality wrote:0-12 on go ahead shots in the last 45 seconds. Basically he’s not built like Lonnie Walker.


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Re: Curry last second shots in playoffs 

Post#80 » by axeman23 » Tue May 9, 2023 2:11 pm

triple_threat wrote:
Ballerhogger wrote:Warriors live and die by curry shot making . It’s more evident than ever now . Finally caught up to them


I remember iggy hitting most of the clutch shots in 2015 still so this issues goes way back.


Yeah, and I remember watching that thinking: "Oh, It's Iggy, he'll miss!" Next one: "Oh, he'll miss!" Next one: "Oh, he'll... What the hell is happening?!?" :lol:

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