2024 NBA Finals: The Stars Match-up (Doncic/Irving vs Tatum/Brown)

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Which Duo Will Perform Better in the NBA Finals?

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Post#61 » by The Corey's » Fri May 31, 2024 9:19 pm

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The Corey's wrote:But the Mavs haven't beat a 64 win team. The Celtics literally already destroyed the Mavs post trade deadline with both Luka and Irving playing.


You really believe this is the same Mavs team Celtics beat 2 times in regular season? You think they haven't elevated their game and got more in sync since then?


Sure. It's not enough. You probably don't think that the Mavs are a 64 win team as they are currently constituted right?

Luka and Irving are gonna get theirs. Tatum and Brown will definitely get theirs.

If anyone thinks the rest of the rosters are even then I don't think they respect the Celtics very much.
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Post#62 » by Archx » Fri May 31, 2024 9:26 pm

The Corey's wrote:
Archx wrote:
The Corey's wrote:But the Mavs haven't beat a 64 win team. The Celtics literally already destroyed the Mavs post trade deadline with both Luka and Irving playing.


You really believe this is the same Mavs team Celtics beat 2 times in regular season? You think they haven't elevated their game and got more in sync since then?


Sure. It's not enough. You probably don't think that the Mavs are a 64 win team as they are currently constituted right?

Luka and Irving are gonna get theirs. Tatum and Brown will definitely get theirs.

If anyone thinks the rest of the rosters are even then I don't think they respect the Celtics very much.


In their last 2 months of regular season they basically had the result and stats of a top3 team. Prior to that, they were simply injured non stop. After the trade obviously team needs to adjust to changes. This team just went through hell in Western conference battling their own injuries plus being underdogs in every series.

I'm not saying they're unbeatable but Celtics fans should be careful with their thinking that Mavs will just roll over.
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Post#63 » by The Corey's » Fri May 31, 2024 9:29 pm

Archx wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
Archx wrote:
You really believe this is the same Mavs team Celtics beat 2 times in regular season? You think they haven't elevated their game and got more in sync since then?


Sure. It's not enough. You probably don't think that the Mavs are a 64 win team as they are currently constituted right?

Luka and Irving are gonna get theirs. Tatum and Brown will definitely get theirs.

If anyone thinks the rest of the rosters are even then I don't think they respect the Celtics very much.


In their last 2 months of regular season they basically had the result and stats of a top3 team. Prior to that, they were simply injured non stop. After the trade obviously team needs to adjust to changes. This team just went through hell in Western conference battling their own injuries plus being underdogs in every series.

I'm not saying they're unbeatable but Celtics fans should be careful with their thinking that Mavs will just roll over.


I ain't worried about the Mavs. They're gonna get steam rolled.

I don't respect their path to the finals any more than you Dallas fans respect the Celtics path.
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Post#64 » by bluejerseyjinx » Fri May 31, 2024 9:46 pm

The Corey's wrote:
Archx wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
Sure. It's not enough. You probably don't think that the Mavs are a 64 win team as they are currently constituted right?

Luka and Irving are gonna get theirs. Tatum and Brown will definitely get theirs.

If anyone thinks the rest of the rosters are even then I don't think they respect the Celtics very much.


In their last 2 months of regular season they basically had the result and stats of a top3 team. Prior to that, they were simply injured non stop. After the trade obviously team needs to adjust to changes. This team just went through hell in Western conference battling their own injuries plus being underdogs in every series.

I'm not saying they're unbeatable but Celtics fans should be careful with their thinking that Mavs will just roll over.


I ain't worried about the Mavs. They're gonna get steam rolled.

I don't respect their path to the finals any more than you Dallas fans respect the Celtics path.

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Post#65 » by Green89 » Fri May 31, 2024 11:54 pm

Kyrie Irving has averaged 20.0 points, 5.0 rebounds and 4.3 assists in 4 games versus Jrue Holiday in the playoffs in his career.
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Post#66 » by Mr_Mojo_Risin » Sat Jun 1, 2024 2:43 am

Everyone always talks about Luka and his ability to elevate his team mates. Overrated, Mavs maybe a play-in team with Grant Williams but Tatum elevated Celtics with Grant to Finals. Celtics in 3. :D
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Post#67 » by Oscar9992 » Sat Jun 1, 2024 3:15 am

Anthony Edwards is shocked by Luka's range
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Post#68 » by 50yrceltsfan » Sat Jun 1, 2024 4:03 pm

When the Celtics have it, if KP is fully ready and can draw their 5 out to contest his 3 pointers, then Tatum and Brown will drive at will 1 on 1. They're tough to stop unless there's a good shot-blocker at the end, and both also have a great mid-range game and are good passers out to the 3-pt line. If Dallas can keep a center close to the lane and prevent those two from finishing, that will be a problem for the Celtics.

When Mavs have it, if Luka can continually draw the big man from high picks, like he did with Gobert, he will either score or assist. Boston has to defeat that pick and roll at least some of the time. Also, the Celts would be smart to stay with Washington even if it means conceding layups to Luka.

This looks like a pretty even series and they both want it bad. Should be a spectacle.
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Post#69 » by Dundalis » Sat Jun 1, 2024 4:21 pm

Fencer reregistered wrote:The Celtics defense is ideally suited to limit Doncic.

It isn't particularly suited to stopping Kyrie, but he also hasn't beaten them in any game in the past 3 years.

I'd be willing to bet not only would Luka tell you he'd rather face the Celtics defense than OKC's with Dort, but he will also perform much better vs the Celtics than OKC. The Celtics have a better rotation cast for Luka, but not one of the Celtics defenders will bother him as much as Dort did. I think Kyrie can still cook, but I think he will have more trouble than Luka will.
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Post#70 » by Dundalis » Sat Jun 1, 2024 4:38 pm

50yrceltsfan wrote:When the Celtics have it, if KP is fully ready and can draw their 5 out to contest his 3 pointers, then Tatum and Brown will drive at will 1 on 1. They're tough to stop unless there's a good shot-blocker at the end, and both also have a great mid-range game and are good passers out to the 3-pt line. If Dallas can keep a center close to the lane and prevent those two from finishing, that will be a problem for the Celtics.

When Mavs have it, if Luka can continually draw the big man from high picks, like he did with Gobert, he will either score or assist. Boston has to defeat that pick and roll at least some of the time. Also, the Celts would be smart to stay with Washington even if it means conceding layups to Luka.

This looks like a pretty even series and they both want it bad. Should be a spectacle.

Dallas played a 5 out team in OKC. Their defense is wholly geared around protecting the paint, and funneling drivers into the protection. They may attempt to hedge a bit more vs 5 out, but they are not giving up paint protection full stop, no matter what the Celtics big does. The only time they even think about doing that consistently is if they go small ball with Kleber at the 5. Celtics may win with their 3 point shooting, but they won't win from getting any easy paint points.
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Archx wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
Sure. It's not enough. You probably don't think that the Mavs are a 64 win team as they are currently constituted right?

Luka and Irving are gonna get theirs. Tatum and Brown will definitely get theirs.

If anyone thinks the rest of the rosters are even then I don't think they respect the Celtics very much.


In their last 2 months of regular season they basically had the result and stats of a top3 team. Prior to that, they were simply injured non stop. After the trade obviously team needs to adjust to changes. This team just went through hell in Western conference battling their own injuries plus being underdogs in every series.

I'm not saying they're unbeatable but Celtics fans should be careful with their thinking that Mavs will just roll over.


I ain't worried about the Mavs. They're gonna get steam rolled.

I don't respect their path to the finals any more than you Dallas fans respect the Celtics path.

Mr_Mojo_Risin wrote:Everyone always talks about Luka and his ability to elevate his team mates. Overrated, Mavs maybe a play-in team with Grant Williams but Tatum elevated Celtics with Grant to Finals. Celtics in 3. :D

This is great, love this. Can you both please attend the Celtics home games and heckle Luka with this? Thanks.
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Post#71 » by Yinwest » Sat Jun 1, 2024 4:47 pm

The last few days Luka fans reminded me the days we used to play prime Bron all the time lol.
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Post#72 » by WentzerWuver » Sat Jun 1, 2024 5:25 pm

Marvin Martian wrote:DAL should be heavily favored. BOS does not have the composure offensively to keep up with Luka and Ky.

They may have done well in the clutch during these playoffs, but they were playing against injured teams.
Lol, like you thought Minny was heavily favorite against the Mavs. C's will be favorite in every game cause Vegas understands match-ups. I think Luka and Kyrie are a better duo but C's is a super team and will show why in a 4-0 series with KP and 4-2 without KP.

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Post#73 » by BmanInBigD » Sat Jun 1, 2024 10:22 pm

The Corey's wrote:
Archx wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
Sure. It's not enough. You probably don't think that the Mavs are a 64 win team as they are currently constituted right?

Luka and Irving are gonna get theirs. Tatum and Brown will definitely get theirs.

If anyone thinks the rest of the rosters are even then I don't think they respect the Celtics very much.


In their last 2 months of regular season they basically had the result and stats of a top3 team. Prior to that, they were simply injured non stop. After the trade obviously team needs to adjust to changes. This team just went through hell in Western conference battling their own injuries plus being underdogs in every series.

I'm not saying they're unbeatable but Celtics fans should be careful with their thinking that Mavs will just roll over.


I ain't worried about the Mavs. They're gonna get steam rolled.

I don't respect their path to the finals any more than you Dallas fans respect the Celtics path.

Aren't you the one that constantly crapped on the Mavs during all of their series so far? I think you said they didn't have a chance in any of them IIRC. :lol: What did they do to you?
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Post#74 » by The Corey's » Sat Jun 1, 2024 10:23 pm

BmanInBigD wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
Archx wrote:
In their last 2 months of regular season they basically had the result and stats of a top3 team. Prior to that, they were simply injured non stop. After the trade obviously team needs to adjust to changes. This team just went through hell in Western conference battling their own injuries plus being underdogs in every series.

I'm not saying they're unbeatable but Celtics fans should be careful with their thinking that Mavs will just roll over.


I ain't worried about the Mavs. They're gonna get steam rolled.

I don't respect their path to the finals any more than you Dallas fans respect the Celtics path.

Aren't you the one that constantly crapped on the Mavs during all of their series so far? I think you said they didn't have a chance in any of them IIRC. :lol: What did they do to you?


I'm the one who said Celtics in 5 all playoffs. You got me confused with someone else.
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Post#75 » by Bob8 » Sat Jun 1, 2024 10:26 pm

Yinwest wrote:The last few days Luka fans reminded me the days we used to play prime Bron all the time lol.


And Celtics are having Bird, Mchale and co. :lol:
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Post#76 » by BmanInBigD » Sat Jun 1, 2024 10:31 pm

The Corey's wrote:
BmanInBigD wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
I ain't worried about the Mavs. They're gonna get steam rolled.

I don't respect their path to the finals any more than you Dallas fans respect the Celtics path.

Aren't you the one that constantly crapped on the Mavs during all of their series so far? I think you said they didn't have a chance in any of them IIRC. :lol: What did they do to you?


I'm the one who said Celtics in 5 all playoffs. You got me confused with someone else.

lol, no I'm not. You said the Mavs would get killed in 4 or 5 in every series. It's pretty easy to go back and check, these things don't get auto-deleted.
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Post#77 » by Mr_Mojo_Risin » Sat Jun 1, 2024 10:32 pm

Dundalis wrote:
Mr_Mojo_Risin wrote:Everyone always talks about Luka and his ability to elevate his team mates. Overrated, Mavs maybe a play-in team with Grant Williams but Tatum elevated Celtics with Grant to Finals. Celtics in 3. :D

This is great, love this. Can you both please attend the Celtics home games and heckle Luka with this? Thanks.

Sure…are you funding my flights from Australia, accommodation and tickets? I’ll bring a handkerchief for meals covered too :lol:
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Post#78 » by The Corey's » Sat Jun 1, 2024 10:45 pm

BmanInBigD wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
BmanInBigD wrote:Aren't you the one that constantly crapped on the Mavs during all of their series so far? I think you said they didn't have a chance in any of them IIRC. :lol: What did they do to you?


I'm the one who said Celtics in 5 all playoffs. You got me confused with someone else.

lol, no I'm not. You said the Mavs would get killed in 4 or 5 in every series. It's pretty easy to go back and check, these things don't get auto-deleted.



Feel free to fact check it. I didn't mention anything about the Mavs until the wcf baby.

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Post#79 » by greekman » Sun Jun 2, 2024 1:46 am

celtics also have holiday, porzinghis and white. who does dallas have ? washington has to have another fluke performance for mavs to win.
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Post#80 » by ___Rand___ » Sun Jun 2, 2024 2:55 am

JustBuzzin wrote:Tatum the weak link.

I got Luka/Kyrie

If Tatum played both sides like Brown I would take Boston, but he doesn't. Luka/Kyrie just on another level offensively.


I agree Tatum's the weak link, on both sides of the ball. You never know if he's going to be on or off. If he at least shows up on defense, he can impact Luka's performance.
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