HotRocks34 wrote:KGtabake wrote:HotRocks34 wrote:
As great as Luka is, it's still hard for me to put him over Jokic as the best player in the game. Maybe 1A and 1B.
It's not just hard. It's blasphemy.
Until he becomes passable in defense, he will remain a top 5 player for his offense alone.
Jokic is significantly better in defense, just like the other 3 players who are better than Doncic.
Alexander, Giannis, Embiid.
Nah. Luka is #2, at worst.
33/9/9 and leading his team to the Finals at 25 years old.
The "Luka can't play defense" thing is long gone. This is playoff RAPTOR. The second column is defense.
how to type an exponent in wordLuka also was positive (good) in the regular season.
If you want to say Giannis is better, ok. I can see that even though I don't agree. Giannis is a dominant player and deserves his props.
Jokic is Jokic. He's the top dog IMO.
Embiid is constantly injured and doesn't get it done in the playoffs. I can't put him over Luka right now.
Shai is great but he doesn't have the top gear Luka does. Shai is a nova and Luka is a supernova. Shai is steadier than Luka but Luka's ceiling is higher.
So, at worst, Luka is #3 for me. Best guard in the league and only now really refining his game with the right roster, coach and front office.
Flowers to Kidd. He's done a better job than I thought he would.
He ain't #2. Not even close to it.
Defense matters and it shows in these Finals.
Look how many times Tatum has just blowed by him.
He doesn't even try. I'm not talking about random steals here and there. I'm talking about constant effort.
Steals and blocks are not a measure for defensive ability.
If that was the case Hassan Whiteside would still be playing and he would be regarded as an elite defender as well. That wasn't the case. He was horrible and he was just taking advantage of his size for blocking shots.
Doncic isn't on the level of Jokic or Giannis for sure and i would take Alexander or Embiid above him as well.
Jokic isn't a great defender by any means but he's not totally indifferent like Luka is. His personal assignment can't do whatever he wants. He does care.
Giannis is on another level as well since he can impact the game on both sides.
Embiid and Alexander are also two way stars.
Even Curry who is regarded as a one way superstar, wasn't that bad on defense. He didn't have the size and on many occasions the Warriors had to hide him but he was trying. That's what pisses me off with Luka. What's the point of generating 50-60 points per game(scoring and assisting) if you give back 40?