Should Wizards be Concerned with Alex Sarr

[Slimjimzv]

It's not like there was much talent at the top of the draft. Reed will probably wind up being the guy they should have taken, but I'd be surprised if anyone becomes a big enough star that they regret taking Sarr. In fact, if it sets them up for a higher pick in the 2025 draft, it'll turn out to be a fantastic pick.

[HotelVitale]

It's not like there was much talent at the top of the draft. Reed will probably wind up being the guy they should have taken, but I'd be surprised if anyone becomes a big enough star that they regret taking Sarr. In fact, if it sets them up for a higher pick in the 2025 draft, it'll turn out to be a fantastic pick.

Eh, I doubt any rookie comes close to being able to impact games enough for that to matter. Think we've jumped the shark if we're talking about tank-picks.

[Slimjimzv]

It's not like there was much talent at the top of the draft. Reed will probably wind up being the guy they should have taken, but I'd be surprised if anyone becomes a big enough star that they regret taking Sarr. In fact, if it sets them up for a higher pick in the 2025 draft, it'll turn out to be a fantastic pick.

Eh, I doubt any rookie comes close to being able to impact games enough for that to matter. Think we've jumped the shark if we're talking about tank-picks.

What?

[Jamaaliver]

It's not like there was much talent at the top of the draft. Reed will probably wind up being the guy they should have taken, but I'd be surprised if anyone becomes a big enough star that they regret taking Sarr. In fact, if it sets them up for a higher pick in the 2025 draft, it'll turn out to be a fantastic pick.

Eh, I doubt any rookie comes close to being able to impact games enough for that to matter.

Think we've jumped the shark if we're talking about tank-picks.

What?

He's saying that even if Wizards had drafted the next Victor Wembanyama, their team is so bad that they'd be in line for a high lottery pick next year no matter what.

[tsherkin]

Eh, I doubt any rookie comes close to being able to impact games enough for that to matter.

Think we've jumped the shark if we're talking about tank-picks.

What?

He's saying that even if Wizards had drafted the next Victor Wembanyama, their team is so bad that they'd be in line for a high lottery pick next year no matter what.

Kind of like the Spurs, who actually drafted him, heh.

[louc1970]

Wizards still should have taken Clingan. He will be a solid base for a decade.

[Jamaaliver]

What?

He's saying that even if Wizards had drafted the next Victor Wembanyama, their team is so bad that they'd be in line for a high lottery pick next year no matter what.

Kind of like the Spurs, who actually drafted him, heh.

Yes.

That is literally the point of that entire exchange:

Eh, I doubt any rookie comes close to being able to impact games enough for that to matter..

[tsherkin]

He's saying that even if Wizards had drafted the next Victor Wembanyama, their team is so bad that they'd be in line for a high lottery pick next year no matter what.

Kind of like the Spurs, who actually drafted him, heh.

Yes.

That is literally the point of that entire exchange:

Eh, I doubt any rookie comes close to being able to impact games enough for that to matter..

I was agreeing with you.

[Sealab2024]

I'm convinced the 2024 draft should prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that most scouts have no clue what they're talking about. Bub Carrington, Reed Sheppard, Dalton Knect, Rob Dillingham, Tyler Kolek, Ron Holland, Terrence Shannon Jr, Zach Eddy and Donovan Clingan will all be better pros than the first two picks plus probably Salaun. This wasn't as weak a draft as some think it's just that bad scouting projected certain players way above what their actual potential will turn out to be.

So yes, I'd be worried. Dude reaks of Hasheem Thabeet type reality.

[ForeverTFC]

I'm convinced the 2024 draft should prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that most scouts have no clue what they're talking about. Bub Carrington, Reed Sheppard, Dalton Knect, Rob Dillingham, Tyler Kolek, Ron Holland, Terrence Shannon Jr, Zach Eddy and Donovan Clingan will all be better pros than the first two picks plus probably Salaun. This wasn't as weak a draft as some think it's just that bad scouting projected certain players way above what their actual potential will turn out to be.

So yes, I'd be worried. Dude reaks of Hasheem Thabeet type reality.

This is a pretty bold claim.

You may very well be right, however the scouts may very well agree with you. When Colangelo picked Bargnani number 1, he did an interview and said Brandon Roy will the ROY. With Bargnani, he was betting on upside.

Many teams. depending on their situation and where they are in their building process, aren't shooting for the highest expected value, but the highest upside. So the scouts may very well agree that those players you listed have higher expected values, but if that's not what is driving the team's decision making, not sure how you put that on the scout.

[Sealab2024]

I'm convinced the 2024 draft should prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that most scouts have no clue what they're talking about. Bub Carrington, Reed Sheppard, Dalton Knect, Rob Dillingham, Tyler Kolek, Ron Holland, Terrence Shannon Jr, Zach Eddy and Donovan Clingan will all be better pros than the first two picks plus probably Salaun. This wasn't as weak a draft as some think it's just that bad scouting projected certain players way above what their actual potential will turn out to be.

So yes, I'd be worried. Dude reaks of Hasheem Thabeet type reality.

This is a pretty bold claim.

You may very well be right, however the scouts may very well agree with you. When Colangelo picked Bargnani number 1, he did an interview and said Brandon Roy will the ROY. With Bargnani, he was betting on upside.

Many teams. depending on their situation and where they are in their building process, aren't shooting for the highest expected value, but the highest upside. So the scouts may very well agree that those players you listed have higher expected values, but if that's not what is driving the team's decision making, not sure how you put that on the scout.

But what I'm saying is what exactly are they projecting that high upside on? Sarr is tall and has decently quick feet, but are there any real world basketball skills behind that or are you dealing with a completely blank slate (which it seems they are) and just projecting based on pure athletic traits. If it's the latter I'd say the chances of him ever coming close to whatever upside he may have is exceedingly slim. To me that's letting your scouts imagination run way too wild.

Risacher is a bit better as he does seem to have some basic feel for the game, but again, is there any real world skill that makes you think this guy is ever gonna be a difference maker on a team or are scouts just blind projecting him to the moon?

The guys I listed all have an on court skill or skill set that teams can bank on to at least help within a rotation. Might not be starters or all stars but they can help a team. I don't see it from the top 2 picks and I think it's honestly a case of scouts (and by that I also mean the GM's who listen to them as well) getting way to into themselves and their own heads.

Jmho.

[ForeverTFC]

I'm convinced the 2024 draft should prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that most scouts have no clue what they're talking about. Bub Carrington, Reed Sheppard, Dalton Knect, Rob Dillingham, Tyler Kolek, Ron Holland, Terrence Shannon Jr, Zach Eddy and Donovan Clingan will all be better pros than the first two picks plus probably Salaun. This wasn't as weak a draft as some think it's just that bad scouting projected certain players way above what their actual potential will turn out to be.

So yes, I'd be worried. Dude reaks of Hasheem Thabeet type reality.

This is a pretty bold claim.

You may very well be right, however the scouts may very well agree with you. When Colangelo picked Bargnani number 1, he did an interview and said Brandon Roy will the ROY. With Bargnani, he was betting on upside.

Many teams. depending on their situation and where they are in their building process, aren't shooting for the highest expected value, but the highest upside. So the scouts may very well agree that those players you listed have higher expected values, but if that's not what is driving the team's decision making, not sure how you put that on the scout.

But what I'm saying is what exactly are they projecting that high upside on? Sarr is tall and has decently quick feet, but are there any real world basketball skills behind that or are you dealing with a completely blank slate (which it seems they are) and just projecting based on pure athletic traits. If it's the latter I'd say the chances of him ever coming close to whatever upside he may have is exceedingly slim. To me that's letting your scouts imagination run way too wild.

Risacher is a bit better as he does seem to have some basic feel for the game, but again, is there any real world skill that makes you think this guy is ever gonna be a difference maker on a team or are scouts just blind projecting him to the moon?

The guys I listed all have an on court skill or skill set that teams can bank on to at least help within a rotation.oght not be starters or all stars but they can help a team. I don't see it from the top 2 picks and I think it's honestly a case of scouts (and by that I also mean the GM's who listen to them as well) getting way to into themselves and their own heads.

Jmho.

I mean, I don't disagree with you. I thought Reed should have gone number 1 and didn't like either Sarr or Risacher. With that said, these are NBA scouts we're talking about. I have to assume they have a better feel for this than us. And betting on physical traits is not the worse thing in the world. We remember it when it doesn't work, but don't when it does because those players tend to close the skill gap pretty quickly.

[Sealab2024]

This is a pretty bold claim.

You may very well be right, however the scouts may very well agree with you. When Colangelo picked Bargnani number 1, he did an interview and said Brandon Roy will the ROY. With Bargnani, he was betting on upside.

Many teams. depending on their situation and where they are in their building process, aren't shooting for the highest expected value, but the highest upside. So the scouts may very well agree that those players you listed have higher expected values, but if that's not what is driving the team's decision making, not sure how you put that on the scout.

But what I'm saying is what exactly are they projecting that high upside on? Sarr is tall and has decently quick feet, but are there any real world basketball skills behind that or are you dealing with a completely blank slate (which it seems they are) and just projecting based on pure athletic traits. If it's the latter I'd say the chances of him ever coming close to whatever upside he may have is exceedingly slim. To me that's letting your scouts imagination run way too wild.

Risacher is a bit better as he does seem to have some basic feel for the game, but again, is there any real world skill that makes you think this guy is ever gonna be a difference maker on a team or are scouts just blind projecting him to the moon?

The guys I listed all have an on court skill or skill set that teams can bank on to at least help within a rotation.oght not be starters or all stars but they can help a team. I don't see it from the top 2 picks and I think it's honestly a case of scouts (and by that I also mean the GM's who listen to them as well) getting way to into themselves and their own heads.

Jmho.

I mean, I don't disagree with you. I thought Reed should have gone number 1 and didn't like either Sarr or Risacher. With that said, these are NBA scouts we're talking about. I have to assume they have a better feel for this than us. And betting on physical traits is not the worse thing in the world. We remember it when it doesn't work, but don't when it does because those players tend to close the skill gap pretty quickly.

True enough. I just think 1st and 2nd overall is too high for that kind of project.

[lastb1ckman]

I'm convinced the 2024 draft should prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that most scouts have no clue what they're talking about. Bub Carrington, Reed Sheppard, Dalton Knect, Rob Dillingham, Tyler Kolek, Ron Holland, Terrence Shannon Jr, Zach Eddy and Donovan Clingan will all be better pros than the first two picks plus probably Salaun. This wasn't as weak a draft as some think it's just that bad scouting projected certain players way above what their actual potential will turn out to be.

So yes, I'd be worried. Dude reaks of Hasheem Thabeet type reality.

Waaaay too early to say this. We haven't even seen their rookie seasons yet. And even then that may not be how their actual careers turn out. We probably don't know whether they hit or bust until after 2-3 seasons.

[louc1970]

I'm convinced the 2024 draft should prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that most scouts have no clue what they're talking about. Bub Carrington, Reed Sheppard, Dalton Knect, Rob Dillingham, Tyler Kolek, Ron Holland, Terrence Shannon Jr, Zach Eddy and Donovan Clingan will all be better pros than the first two picks plus probably Salaun. This wasn't as weak a draft as some think it's just that bad scouting projected certain players way above what their actual potential will turn out to be.

So yes, I'd be worried. Dude reaks of Hasheem Thabeet type reality.

It was a weak draft. Most drafts you could pick a couple of players and know they had real talent and the ability to lead. In this draft, you throw darts at the dart board and hope one comes up a winner.
The top drafters went with riskier picks hoping upside would play out.
Still think most should have simply taken solid role players building around.
Think it is easy? Pick the 3 best players from this year's draft.

I will take Carrington, Buzelis and Clingan. I will be as wrong as the next 3 names.

[Jamaaliver]

Kid looking like an actual NBA player for the second game in a row.

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[DreamTeam09]

Sarr is going to be good with plenty of tools to grow with. Wizards should make him a PF and treat him like Mobley. Get a C for the future... Or you can just draft Cooper & put him at the 4...
Either way was a solid pick

[Tnasty4l]

All these posters on here downing the top picks of this draft without really seeing them play just want to be the first to say I told you so. When these players show that they belong you won't here a peep out of them.

[FarBeyondDriven]

the 2024 draft class is really going to expose the people who know what they're talking about and those that just regurgitate fraudulent draft "experts" like Givony. Thankfully we have receipts of 90% of you calling this weak or one of the weakest classes ever. I hope you all are man enough to admit how wrong you are when the time comes. Very few of you will have any credibility left when discussing draft prospects due to this class.

[Chuck Everett]

All these posters on here downing the top picks of this draft without really seeing them play just want to be the first to say I told you so. When these players show that they belong you won't here a peep out of them.

The media dudes took a position and then it just became their narrative. They refused to pivot even a little bit, when it has been proven that guys who are 18-19 do improve with time. These same scouts were okay with Derek Lively being selected where he was selected. They don't know ****.