2024-25 NBA Rookie Discussion Thread (Pt. 2)

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Which 2 rookies are you most high on / impressed with? (Listed alphabetically)

Carlton "Bub" Carrington
5
3%
Stephon Castle
36
19%
Donovan Clingan
11
6%
Zach Edey
27
14%
Dalton Knecht
14
7%
Jared McCain
52
28%
Zaccharie Risacher
7
4%
Alex Sarr
8
4%
Jaylen Wells
9
5%
Other: George, Da Silva, Dunn, Missi, Buzelis, Filipowski, Dunn, Sheppard, Holland, Dillingham, Salaün, Williams, etc. (Poll is limited to 10 options)
20
11%
 
Total votes: 189

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Re: 2024-25 NBA Rookie Discussion Thread (pt. 2) 

Post#61 » by wemby » Mon Dec 2, 2024 3:54 am

QMemphis wrote:
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Even more impressive is Jaylen is the 3rd best defender in this class besides Clingan and Dunn. If he was given more shots I think he could do the Jared McCain thing if racking up numbers but Wells is contributing to winning basketball. Best 3&D in the draft, biggest steal of the draft and is only going to get better.

Third best defender in the class??? :lol: Dude, no he isn't. I get that he's a really good player for where he was picked, but that's just ridiculous, just like people who were saying GG Jackson was a top 5 player this year.


He has guarded the best perimeter player on every team since starting and doing a great job at it.

That may make him the best perimeter defender in his own team, not in the class. He's not a better defender than Castle, Sarr, Devin Carter (currently injured), Jamal Shead, or even maybe Holland or Risacher (disregarding Clingan and Dunn who you already mentioned).
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Post#62 » by QMemphis » Mon Dec 2, 2024 4:40 am

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wemby wrote:Third best defender in the class??? :lol: Dude, no he isn't. I get that he's a really good player for where he was picked, but that's just ridiculous, just like people who were saying GG Jackson was a top 5 player this year.


He has guarded the best perimeter player on every team since starting and doing a great job at it.

That may make him the best perimeter defender in his own team, not in the class. He's not a better defender than Castle, Sarr, Devin Carter (currently injured), Jamal Shead, or even maybe Holland or Risacher (disregarding Clingan and Dunn who you already mentioned).


Valid points so I will say top 5.
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Post#63 » by 7seventynine9 » Mon Dec 2, 2024 4:25 pm

[quote="kane0801"][quote="Dacost"]Question if the sixer finish with the worst record in the NBA can McCain still win .[/quote]
McCain cool off in last few games[/quote]

Considerably. He wouldn't be the first rookie who went on a heater for 8 games. I remember when Brandon Jennings was the next big things because of his first 10 games in the league. Averaged 25.2 points, 5.9 assists, 4.6 rebounds on .482/.519/.745 shooting in his first 10. Jordan Poole had an insane stretch either his rookie year or 2nd year too. Players go on heaters.
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Post#64 » by pepe1991 » Mon Dec 2, 2024 7:31 pm

Michael Carter-Williams won ROY on 19-63 team.

ROY almost always boils down to who can padd most stats, context of those stats means nothing.
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Post#65 » by Jadoogar » Mon Dec 2, 2024 7:57 pm

FarBeyondDriven wrote:nice to see Dillingham and some others getting more run. Steadily destroying the laughable weak draft class narrative.


stop this. a couple of players flashing role player potential isn't changing the narrative.
It's still proving to be a weak draft class. That's not to say there won't be good role players, every draft produces some rotation players.
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Post#66 » by jasonxxx102 » Mon Dec 2, 2024 8:52 pm

7seventynine9 wrote:
kane0801 wrote:
Dacost wrote:Question if the sixer finish with the worst record in the NBA can McCain still win .

McCain cool off in last few games


Considerably. He wouldn't be the first rookie who went on a heater for 8 games. I remember when Brandon Jennings was the next big things because of his first 10 games in the league. Averaged 25.2 points, 5.9 assists, 4.6 rebounds on .482/.519/.745 shooting in his first 10. Jordan Poole had an insane stretch either his rookie year or 2nd year too. Players go on heaters.


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Post#67 » by 7seventynine9 » Tue Dec 3, 2024 3:25 am

jasonxxx102 wrote:
7seventynine9 wrote:
kane0801 wrote:McCain cool off in last few games


Considerably. He wouldn't be the first rookie who went on a heater for 8 games. I remember when Brandon Jennings was the next big things because of his first 10 games in the league. Averaged 25.2 points, 5.9 assists, 4.6 rebounds on .482/.519/.745 shooting in his first 10. Jordan Poole had an insane stretch either his rookie year or 2nd year too. Players go on heaters.


having 356 posts without a single And1 is seriously impressive.


I haven't posted since June of 2011. Not even sure what an and1 is.
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Post#68 » by dawhizz » Tue Dec 3, 2024 6:15 am

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Post#69 » by Black Jack » Tue Dec 3, 2024 7:23 am

7seventynine9 wrote:
kane0801 wrote:
Dacost wrote:Question if the sixer finish with the worst record in the NBA can McCain still win .

McCain cool off in last few games


Considerably. He wouldn't be the first rookie who went on a heater for 8 games. I remember when Brandon Jennings was the next big things because of his first 10 games in the league. Averaged 25.2 points, 5.9 assists, 4.6 rebounds on .482/.519/.745 shooting in his first 10. Jordan Poole had an insane stretch either his rookie year or 2nd year too. Players go on heaters.


Just want to say I think Brandon Jennings had really good talent.
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Post#70 » by UcanUwill » Tue Dec 3, 2024 10:35 am

7seventynine9 wrote:
jasonxxx102 wrote:
7seventynine9 wrote:
Considerably. He wouldn't be the first rookie who went on a heater for 8 games. I remember when Brandon Jennings was the next big things because of his first 10 games in the league. Averaged 25.2 points, 5.9 assists, 4.6 rebounds on .482/.519/.745 shooting in his first 10. Jordan Poole had an insane stretch either his rookie year or 2nd year too. Players go on heaters.


having 356 posts without a single And1 is seriously impressive.


I haven't posted since June of 2011. Not even sure what an and1 is.


It is something very important in social ladder and public acceptance you see :lol: But seriously, older timers got screwed up by +1 ratio, since a lot of our comments were made before and oning comments was introduced.
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Post#71 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Dec 3, 2024 2:14 pm

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Post#72 » by jasonxxx102 » Tue Dec 3, 2024 3:25 pm

Yves Missi is better than Zach Edey
76ciology wrote:Wouldn't Edey have a better chance of winning the scoring battle against Tatum in the post after a switch than Tatum shooting over Edey's 9'6" standing reach?
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Post#73 » by Frank Dux » Tue Dec 3, 2024 5:12 pm

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Missi is very promising. Seems like he already has good hands and very good athleticism.
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Post#74 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Dec 3, 2024 5:24 pm

Frank Dux wrote:Missi is very promising. Seems like he already has good hands and very good athleticism.


There's an alternate reality where Lakers took Jaime Jaquez Jr in the 2023 NBA Draft at SF and drafted Yves Missi in 2024 to be the Center of the future.

Those two selections (+ Reaves) would be really beneficial in the short and long term for this Lakers squad.
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Post#75 » by QMemphis » Wed Dec 4, 2024 12:12 am

jasonxxx102 wrote:Yves Missi is better than Zach Edey


I’ll bite, how you figure champ lol
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Post#76 » by jasonxxx102 » Wed Dec 4, 2024 2:40 am

QMemphis wrote:
jasonxxx102 wrote:Yves Missi is better than Zach Edey


I’ll bite, how you figure champ lol


Edey is a terrible defender in space, totally useless outside of 3ft. Big and slow and has poor hip mobility. He's not a guy who you're ever going to be able to play starters minutes because he's a net negative on the court.

Offensively he's limited to the paint, and he just clogs up the driving lanes.
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Post#77 » by FarBeyondDriven » Wed Dec 4, 2024 8:08 am

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one of the few 2024 prospects that actually landed in a great spot. It's a very deep and underrated draft class when Missi can be the 5th Center taken.
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Post#78 » by Dan Z » Wed Dec 4, 2024 9:04 am

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one of the few 2024 prospects that actually landed in a great spot. It's a very deep and underrated draft class when Missi can be the 5th Center taken.


New Orleans has done a good job of drafting in recent years.

2024: Missi at #21
2023: Jordan Hawkins at #14
2022: Dyson Daniels at #8
2021: Officially they drafted Ziare Williams at #10, but made a trade that got them Trey Murphy (who went #17). In round 2 they picked Herb Jones.
2020: Kira Lewis at #13 (this pick was a dud).
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Post#79 » by RyanDunn_Muse » Wed Dec 4, 2024 11:52 am

Oso just shut down Wemby, he should be the new leader for ROY.
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