Keegan Murray has been a HUGE disappointment! Is there still hope?

[One_and_Done]

Shooting 28% from 3 on a team with three Stars.
I think it is time to move him before his value depreciates. Also, he is due extension in eight months so time is nearning for Kings FO to make decision.

The Raptors don't have 3 stars.


Bro stop trolling the Raptors. Your post has nothing to do with the topic and you have a history of this. -b

[Duffman100]

Shooting 28% from 3 on a team with three Stars.
I think it is time to move him before his value depreciates. Also, he is due extension in eight months so time is nearning for Kings FO to make decision.

The Raptors don't have 3 stars.

Yup not a Raptors troll...but mentions this for... reasons.

[One_and_Done]

Shooting 28% from 3 on a team with three Stars.
I think it is time to move him before his value depreciates. Also, he is due extension in eight months so time is nearning for Kings FO to make decision.

The Raptors don't have 3 stars.

Yup not a Raptors troll...but mentions this for... reasons.

This was actually a genuine typo. I meant to type Kings. Typos happen.

[srhcan]

I never bought into the hype for him and thought he was overhyped

The improvement in defense last year was pleasant, but offensively I dont see the hype and his cold streaks from 3 while getting good looks is consistent

The Kings shouldve traded him for OG when they had the chance

Sabonis + OG combination would have been great.

[BlazersBroncos]

This one was so obvious. I was pounding the table on here about Keegan just being another random 3pt shooting wing who didn't offer anything special and had no differentiating talents when it came to the NBA.

He was always just Harrison Barnes with no upside.

How you disrespect Barnes.
Barnes is a consistent 38% 3-point shooter, he never shot 27% similar to what Keegan is now.

Murray is not a 27% shooter. He's in a slump. He will be fine.

He isnt a 27% guy but I dont think he is the 41% guy his rookie season flashed either.

Keegen at 35% is likely the median. And thats a nice player but nothing special. He is 24, he doesnt get to the line, he hasnt yet posted a season of .100+ WS/48 and his OBPM and DBPM have been in the negative outside his rookie year (+ OBPM). He is posting a nice On/Off right now.

The issue in SAC is a few things - but one is there was hope that Keegan could become a Top-3 option on a playoff team caliber guy after his rookie year and its starting to show that he is actually 'simply' a high level role player (Think Harrison Barnes IMO - albeit he hasnt even shown that much to date IMO). But without him taking that jump, there isnt much SAC can do to elevate from a team that has R2 as its ceiling IMO.

[Onlytimewilltel]

Kings have 3 stars? That's news to me.

Yea that stood out to me also. You learn something new every day I guess lol

[Scalabrine]

If I were Mike Brown, I’d be figuring out a way to convince DeRozan to accept a sixth man role averaging 30 minutes a game. Then, I’d start Fox-Ellis-Monk-Murray-Sabonis and allow DeRozan to be the bench creator getting the majority of his minutes when Sabonis is on the bench.

Why do you think that this would be better?

These bench Derozan posts are so strange to me. It's not like they wouldn't play together. They'd still be sharing the floor for 20+ mpg like they are now. They'd still be finishing games like they are now. He's not a perfect fit, but he's still better than any other option they have.

[Hoop Hunter]

Should have traded for Siakam to actually boost your team when the chance was given. Enjoy overpaying Murray's 1 dimensional ass now lol.

They couldn't trade for him. Siakam said he would not re-sign with the Kings, he didn't think he fit with Sabonis. Sabonis cloggs the lane, doesn't space the floor.

Siakim wanted to come to Indy because Turner's game fit with him, Siakim is free to post up. Turner is more of a face up jump shooting center, that spaces the floor nicely.

[Magic_Johnny12]

Mike Brown prolly be fired before (or around) Christmas

Would like to see how Keegan performances under a new coach/voice of the Kings before making judgement (MB has probably taken the Kings as far as he can take them)

Well done.

[CIN-C-STAR]

Mike Brown prolly be fired before (or around) Christmas

Would like to see how Keegan performances under a new coach/voice of the Kings before making judgement (MB has probably taken the Kings as far as he can take them)

Dang. Nailed it.

[dballislife]

he was picked high and only younger guy with potential...honestly fox sabonis are balling and an aging demar is still balling not bad at all compared to jimmy and george

if keegan took his steps and became this 18-20 ppg guy, the kings would be pretty good imo, if you blame anyone it should be him

[Tor_Raps]

Should have traded for Siakam to actually boost your team when the chance was given. Enjoy overpaying Murray's 1 dimensional ass now lol.

They couldn't trade for him. Siakam said he would not re-sign with the Kings, he didn't think he fit with Sabonis. Sabonis cloggs the lane, doesn't space the floor.

Siakim wanted to come to Indy because Turner's game fit with him, Siakim is free to post up. Turner is more of a face up jump shooting center, that spaces the floor nicely.

Siakam said he wanted to test free agency no matter where he got traded to, which is why he got traded for your guys poo poo platter.

Kings should have taken the risk but instead rolled the dice on a guy who fits much worse with their roster in Demar. Siakam has been shooting like 40% from 3 since he's been traded, he would have been great with Sabonis.

[Chuck Everett]

he was picked high and only younger guy with potential...honestly fox sabonis are balling and an aging demar is still balling not bad at all compared to jimmy and george

if keegan took his steps and became this 18-20 ppg guy, the kings would be pretty good imo, if you blame anyone it should be him

Sorry man, but Keegan was never going to average those kind of points next to three ball dominant players. There's only one ball.

[dballislife]

he was picked high and only younger guy with potential...honestly fox sabonis are balling and an aging demar is still balling not bad at all compared to jimmy and george

if keegan took his steps and became this 18-20 ppg guy, the kings would be pretty good imo, if you blame anyone it should be him

Sorry man, but Keegan was never going to average those kind of points next to three ball dominant players. There's only one ball.

he cant avg those numbers without them too...players read scouting reports all day long before the game and keegan's report has been the exact same every season, players catch on and know how to defend him

[OxAndFox]

he was picked high and only younger guy with potential...honestly fox sabonis are balling and an aging demar is still balling not bad at all compared to jimmy and george

if keegan took his steps and became this 18-20 ppg guy, the kings would be pretty good imo, if you blame anyone it should be him

Sorry man, but Keegan was never going to average those kind of points next to three ball dominant players. There's only one ball.

Finally someone that understands this.

[Chuck Everett]

he was picked high and only younger guy with potential...honestly fox sabonis are balling and an aging demar is still balling not bad at all compared to jimmy and george

if keegan took his steps and became this 18-20 ppg guy, the kings would be pretty good imo, if you blame anyone it should be him

Sorry man, but Keegan was never going to average those kind of points next to three ball dominant players. There's only one ball.

he cant avg those numbers without them too...players read scouting reports all day long before the game and keegan's report has been the exact same every season, players catch on and know how to defend him

If you think what he's shown is all he's capable of, I won't argue that point.

However, I am just saying, if you place Murray out of position at the 4, turn him into a 3/D player and then play him in a lineup that features Fox, Sabonis, Monk and Derozan for a bulk of the minutes, you can't possibly expect him to average 18-20ppg. Look around the league. Every team has a MAX of three scorers and then everyone else has to get in line. The seniority on the Kings means that Keegan takes at best the 5th most shots on the team and doesn't get any offensive packages put in for him aside from stretching the floor off kickouts. I am of the opinion that on a different team, he would be utilized more competently.

[DLoMor]

Didn’t he have a 47 point game once?

[jmnvcavs]

Didn’t he have a 47 point game once?

Yeah he did, but he was unconscious from three. I believe he was 11/11 or 12/12 from three at some point that game.

[GreatWhiteStiff]

yeah they gotta ditch Demar he kills teams

Show me the fantastic teams Demar has played for and has killed. This "Demar has killed teams"strikes me as most takes that are extremely common and are often repeated and are four words long. I don't rate them highly for their insight and accuracy, personally.

[The-Power]

His shooting has been a disappointment. He's still a valuable player on the court (evidenced for example by having the second highest on/off net rating among the starters, and a positive EPM at +0.9) not least because he's asked to guard the opponent's best perimeter player a ton. I'd love to have him on the Warriors if they ever decide to part ways with him.