Thompson Twins faster than young Westbrook; Lebron has NEVER seen anything like it even in the mirror

[Marvin Martian]

Imagine if they could shoot...

[Sane]

Ausar Thompson.
Age 21 ( 22 in 20 days).
53,8% TS - below average
eFG% - below average
assist to TO rate- negative
BPM- negative
26% for 3 - so bad it's pointless to even say it loud
FTA rate- mediocre
FT% - one of worst to ever do it at SF/PF position.
blocks- 5 blocks in 16 games

Guy is on ball pest. On offense he is useless. Among 10 Pistons rotation players, you have one guess who has worst offensive rating. But it's important to know how bad he is. 101 offensive rating. Among 303 players who logged at least 10 games and average at least 15 mpg, Ausar has 9th worst offensive rating.


Thing i never said, but good try.


No, you are just b*** hurt that Magic got Banchero and you ended up with homeless version of Antawn Jamison.


Again, arguing against argument i never made. But good job



Bolt was fastest person in the world, that didn't mean he was better at basketball than some scrub who did play basketball and couldn't jump over a phone book.
If you look at old nba combine data, you will figure that Drummond was one of fastest 3- quarter sprinters, yet when you watched him in nba, he looked slooooow. Especially with ball in his hands. Athletics are nice tool to have, but basketball is skill based sport. That's why Jokić and Luka are among best players, despite looking like regular McDonalds goers.

Amen is drafted to play PG but Rafael Stone and Udoka figured that ain't gonna happen due complete lack of shooting. And he makes most of a situation, playing SF on very good team. Similar situation was with Magic and Suggs.

Ausar was drafted as "guard- wing" but he has zero chance at playing SG due broken jumpshot. At SF and PF he is D and no 3 wing.

But this whole idea of some supreme talents, some new future stars is delusional. They aren't that. They will be in nba for looong time. But neither will be some top 10-ish player. Ever.

Holy sh*t I wasn't expecting my post to make you hide from so much stuff. Let's finish you.

1) You're parroting the same thing that was parroted about Amen before he took off. You couldn't choose a worse situation to be so disingenuous, we've literally watched his twin get prematurely criticized and then take a dump on all those people. He's rusty and has had injuries. Every single human being who is reading this sentence knows that you know and are just insisting on making a point that requires an explanation like you're 5.

2) You said he's not as talented as above, and above were his stats as a starter. That's the only big thing being touted about Amen. Not a single person has said he'll be a huge scorer, yet you're still up your own butt about his offensive rating in year 2. Stop acting like your sentence wasn't intended to do that. Man up and own up. None of that "I technically didn't say that" cop out.

3) Haha attacking Jabari over Banchero who was literally off the board for us. Imagine how small you are that you're celebrating picking the better player with a HIGHER pick. hahaha I guess watching your team sink down the standings while we rise up is hard. Up until last season, Silas' incompetence allowed you guys to make more progress. That's gone now. I like Paolo but we're good without the 6'10 PF who struggles to score more efficiently than Jalen Green and can't guard a chair unless the whole team protects him. Amen Thompson is clearly going to be a better PF than Banchero and a better SF than Franz. That's what's actually bugging you buddy. You know that if Amen is him, the Magic are no longer in our tier.

4) Aww buddy. Please stop talking about Amen, just stick to insulting me. Anyone who has watched him play can within one sentence see that you don't know what you're talking about. We know you only looked at a website. You're not keeping this secret well. He wasn't drafted to play PG. We had a PG and drafted another - plus really our C is our PG. I know it's hard to understand with all those alligator arms on your squad, but there's this new thing called POSITIONLESS BASKETBALL and Amen is the Greek God Statue of this era. He's dominated PG's, SG's, SF's and PF's. We've moved Fred mostly off ball in the past 20 games. Last season when we had the best record for a month and won 11 straight the longest winning streak in the NBA - Amen was playing C. There's not a single position, off the bench or as a starter, that he hasn't excelled in. The scariest part of all? We had long accepted that Amen is the 0.01% who somehow gets a high net rating even though he can't shoot. That ain't happening. Amen has almost doubled his midrange and 3PT%. Still sucks, but from what we've heard about his legendary off court training habits, it's only going to go one way.

5) Oh we don't have anyone who can ever be a top 10 player but we're a better team than Orlando when both healthy? In the conference that's tougher on average? You keep holding on to that dream little buddy. Those gymnastics you're doing in your head are at least taking advantage of all that space.

Sane is having insane meltdown. Okey.

Time to kick into mortal combat humilation mode.

1) Amen was better rookie than Ausar is sophomore (or rookie). Amen is better passer, decision maker and more fluid basketball player. Just because they are twins doesn't mean they are gifted with identical skill sets. If that was a case, Robin Lopez would have been elite post scorer with 3 point shot like Brook. He was neither.

2) Amen isn't as talented as Lebron, Rose, Westbrook. What's there to argue? Lebron at age of 22 led team to nba finals, Rose was MVP and Westbrook was allstar. I don't need to "back down " from facts. It's just you, who can't handle facts.

3) And there you go full mental. I'll adress standings in my point 5. below.
Banchero averaged 27 ppg on okey efficiency in playoffs. Can we see stat line of Jabari, Green or Amen from playoffs? Oops.
Franz is one of better wing defenders in nba, who averages 25-6-6 stat line as 23 years old guy, and who already won world cup with Germany. As individual player, he is better and more talented ( and more valuable) than any Houston player but maybe Segun.


4) "Greek god". I can't even. LoL

5) Magic have 22-17 record with 5 games of Franz and 25 games of Paolo. With Suggs being hurt and Moe Wagner having torn ACL. We good. Houston with fully healthy roster has identical record ( just 3 games more played) .

K.O. Fatality. Humiliation.

Pepe out.

This is the mode you activated? I mean. I guess I understand why you're so impressed by your own team, you don't have very high standards.

1) I won't let you keep acting obtuse. We know you know Ausar is rusty because of injuries. You're just saying some sh*t and you fully know the answer that disproves it. Everyone is reading your post and knows what you're doing. You're not keeping a secret. You are acting.

2) There's no discussion on this board about Amen being more talented than Lebron. Stop changing goal posts. Man up and stick to your statements.

3) Sure sure. We should marvel at low efficiency PF and the wing who gets worse at shooting every year just because Pepe lives on box scores. Where O where will we ever get a 6'10 guy who can score as a hub, rebound and pass but can't defend or shoot? It's not like you can get one of those with the 16th pick right? We didn't get one with the 16th pick did we? I don't even bother with these comparisons, I just keep reminding Magic fans: if Mosley is the best and you have most of the best stars among the teams, how come we are better than you even when you are healthy? The goal of having the better players is to win more, genius. If you don't win more, what on earth are you even debating? You want to celebrate getting torched in the EASTERN playoffs? Drafting Paolo with a HIGHER pick? These are your victories?

4) I know you can't even. Paolo can't even.

5) We don't have a fully healthy roster. How many more times are you going to hilariously show us that you're acting like you know something about the Rockets when you might as well be talking about the Shanghai Dragons? "Duhhhh I think that when I calculate how much I wish we would win if we didn't have injuries it might be better and that's what matters."

Dude, I'm going to give you a second chance. Please go harder this time and take your time don't rush, I'm starting to feel like I'm punching down.

Btw to the greater Magic fan base: you're actually one of my favorite teams, Paolo is a great scorer, Franz is a great story, Mosley has don't an excellent job. Please come collect Pepe. He's making everyone look bad.

[Redmoon]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QclfgIR72zo

https://youtu.be/CrAJlVnRD7Q?si=kamZxdpU81GdvJi_&t=70

I know we have our ATHLETIC guys. Lebron James. Kobe Bryant. MJ.

I think it's time though we induct the twins into the god-tier of athletes. We're talking the prime Derrick Roses, Russell Westbrooks, Dwight Howards, Zion Williamsons. Even as I write that out, I wonder if Howard and Williamson - arguably the most athletic PF/C's of all time - deserve to be in here. It feels like I included them just because they're impressive for their height/weight.

But as all their teammates and opponents alike say, these twins are just different. We've watched Amen for over a year, the other day he beat the entire Lakers team from basket to basket faster than we've ever seen him and it was casual. He kicked it out for a 3. I've never seen any human in any play move that fast on a basketball court in my life. Not saying it's never happened and I want you guys to actually share plays and players from your teams that are like that.

So are they the most athletic ever? Who's in your list?

They absolutely are in that top tier of athleticism to me. Along with Bron and MJ. Best ever is a stretch since there are so many athletic traits people can be good at.

Bron obviously is 1 of 1 and yet the twins do somethings better than him - quickness/acceleration, lateral movement and foot speed, second jump ability, two foot jumping.

They genuinely might be the closest to a young MJ. They share all the same otherworldly attributes - blazing first step (MJ has the edge) , open court speed (twins might be faster actually), ridiculously quick off the ground. They routinely do standing dunks off vert. Idk of any other guard that does this regularly. Amazing second jump. All this and the twins are bigger and stronger than MJ coming into the league. It’s ridiculous.

It’s interesting that I made a post awhile ago about athletes similar to Jordan and I named guys like ant and Jalen green - I realize that I might have undersold MJs athleticism. Maybe it’s because we’ve seen MJs highlights so much we kinda get numb to it, or maybe we watch how the league has grown in talent and athleticism over the years and begin to question if he really was like that, but I feel like watching the twins it’s kinda a realization like - holy **** they move different and are truly outliers in the league and yet share so many traits that MJ had.

[JT3000]

Amen is not as talented at basketball as the numbers he's averaging as a starter? It it a coincidence Magic fans happen to have a worse opinion of Rockets youth than everyone else on average? You know what I think? I think you must not be counting defense and attacking the rim as his incredible talents, stocks, rebounding and assists he's elite for his position. What exactly did someone say that made you think "he hasn't done that already" or "he can't do that"?

Also, Ausar will 100% get there too. He had just been less lucky with injuries and rotation. What you don't realize is that guy almost jumping over a Paolo Banchero-sized man is shaking off a lot of rust and jumping is not their elite athletic attribute. It's their forward explosion that's on par with a Derrick Rose. Westbrook whatever dude, the guy's own teammates don't agree with you that he was faster in his prime (Lebron, Adams both played with WB).

Other than strength, the Twins would trounce Lebron in any athletic test. Speed, twitch, vertical, lateral, deceleration, whatever you want bring it. As I'm saying this, you should know I'm fully aware that Lebron is one of the most elite athletes in human history. Frankly Westbrook is clearly more athletic than Lebron, they cannot be in the same tier. One of these is elite the other is an all time great of athleticism. There's levels to this you're not seeing in my opinion.

Ausar Thompson.
Age 21 ( 22 in 20 days).
53,8% TS - below average
eFG% - below average
assist to TO rate- negative
BPM- negative
26% for 3 - so bad it's pointless to even say it loud
FTA rate- mediocre
FT% - one of worst to ever do it at SF/PF position.
blocks- 5 blocks in 16 games

Guy is on ball pest. On offense he is useless. Among 10 Pistons rotation players, you have one guess who has worst offensive rating. But it's important to know how bad he is. 101 offensive rating. Among 303 players who logged at least 10 games and average at least 15 mpg, Ausar has 9th worst offensive rating.

Amen is not as talented at basketball as the numbers he's averaging as a starter?

Thing i never said, but good try.

It it a coincidence Magic fans happen to have a worse opinion of Rockets youth than everyone else on average?

No, you are just b*** hurt that Magic got Banchero and you ended up with homeless version of Antawn Jamison.

What exactly did someone say that made you think "he hasn't done that already" or "he can't do that"?

Again, arguing against argument i never made. But good job

n. What you don't realize is that guy almost jumping over a Paolo Banchero-sized man is shaking off a lot of rust and jumping is not their elite athletic attribute. It's their forward explosion that's on par with a Derrick Rose. Westbrook whatever dude, the guy's own teammates don't agree with you that he was faster in his prime (Lebron, Adams both played with WB).

Bolt was fastest person in the world, that didn't mean he was better at basketball than some scrub who did play basketball and couldn't jump over a phone book.
If you look at old nba combine data, you will figure that Drummond was one of fastest 3- quarter sprinters, yet when you watched him in nba, he looked slooooow. Especially with ball in his hands. Athletics are nice tool to have, but basketball is skill based sport. That's why Jokić and Luka are among best players, despite looking like regular McDonalds goers.

Amen is drafted to play PG but Rafael Stone and Udoka figured that ain't gonna happen due complete lack of shooting. And he makes most of a situation, playing SF on very good team. Similar situation was with Magic and Suggs.

Ausar was drafted as "guard- wing" but he has zero chance at playing SG due broken jumpshot. At SF and PF he is D and no 3 wing.

But this whole idea of some supreme talents, some new future stars is delusional. They aren't that. They will be in nba for looong time. But neither will be some top 10-ish player. Ever.

Holy sh*t I wasn't expecting my post to make you hide from so much stuff. Let's finish you.

1) You're parroting the same thing that was parroted about Amen before he took off. You couldn't choose a worse situation to be so disingenuous, we've literally watched his twin get prematurely criticized and then take a dump on all those people. He's rusty and has had injuries. Every single human being who is reading this sentence knows that you know and are just insisting on making a point that requires an explanation like you're 5.

2) You said he's not as talented as above, and above were his stats as a starter. That's the only big thing being touted about Amen. Not a single person has said he'll be a huge scorer, yet you're still up your own butt about his offensive rating in year 2. Stop acting like your sentence wasn't intended to do that. Man up and own up. None of that "I technically didn't say that" cop out.

3) Haha attacking Jabari over Banchero who was literally off the board for us. Imagine how small you are that you're celebrating picking the better player with a HIGHER pick. hahaha I guess watching your team sink down the standings while we rise up is hard. Up until last season, Silas' incompetence allowed you guys to make more progress. That's gone now. I like Paolo but we're good without the 6'10 PF who struggles to score more efficiently than Jalen Green and can't guard a chair unless the whole team protects him. Amen Thompson is clearly going to be a better PF than Banchero and a better SF than Franz. That's what's actually bugging you buddy. You know that if Amen is him, the Magic are no longer in our tier.

4) Aww buddy. Please stop talking about Amen, just stick to insulting me. Anyone who has watched him play can within one sentence see that you don't know what you're talking about. We know you only looked at a website. You're not keeping this secret well. He wasn't drafted to play PG. We had a PG and drafted another - plus really our C is our PG. I know it's hard to understand with all those alligator arms on your squad, but there's this new thing called POSITIONLESS BASKETBALL and Amen is the Greek God Statue of this era. He's dominated PG's, SG's, SF's and PF's. We've moved Fred mostly off ball in the past 20 games. Last season when we had the best record for a month and won 11 straight the longest winning streak in the NBA - Amen was playing C. There's not a single position, off the bench or as a starter, that he hasn't excelled in. The scariest part of all? We had long accepted that Amen is the 0.01% who somehow gets a high net rating even though he can't shoot. That ain't happening. Amen has almost doubled his midrange and 3PT%. Still sucks, but from what we've heard about his legendary off court training habits, it's only going to go one way.

5) Oh we don't have anyone who can ever be a top 10 player but we're a better team than Orlando when both healthy? In the conference that's tougher on average? You keep holding on to that dream little buddy. Those gymnastics you're doing in your head are at least taking advantage of all that space.

I just can't get over the irony of someone with an obvious mental illness going by the name "Sane."

Amen Thompson is a Greek god and a better power forward (a position he can't even play) than Paolo Banchero.

[Sane]

Ausar Thompson.
Age 21 ( 22 in 20 days).
53,8% TS - below average
eFG% - below average
assist to TO rate- negative
BPM- negative
26% for 3 - so bad it's pointless to even say it loud
FTA rate- mediocre
FT% - one of worst to ever do it at SF/PF position.
blocks- 5 blocks in 16 games

Guy is on ball pest. On offense he is useless. Among 10 Pistons rotation players, you have one guess who has worst offensive rating. But it's important to know how bad he is. 101 offensive rating. Among 303 players who logged at least 10 games and average at least 15 mpg, Ausar has 9th worst offensive rating.


Thing i never said, but good try.


No, you are just b*** hurt that Magic got Banchero and you ended up with homeless version of Antawn Jamison.


Again, arguing against argument i never made. But good job



Bolt was fastest person in the world, that didn't mean he was better at basketball than some scrub who did play basketball and couldn't jump over a phone book.
If you look at old nba combine data, you will figure that Drummond was one of fastest 3- quarter sprinters, yet when you watched him in nba, he looked slooooow. Especially with ball in his hands. Athletics are nice tool to have, but basketball is skill based sport. That's why Jokić and Luka are among best players, despite looking like regular McDonalds goers.

Amen is drafted to play PG but Rafael Stone and Udoka figured that ain't gonna happen due complete lack of shooting. And he makes most of a situation, playing SF on very good team. Similar situation was with Magic and Suggs.

Ausar was drafted as "guard- wing" but he has zero chance at playing SG due broken jumpshot. At SF and PF he is D and no 3 wing.

But this whole idea of some supreme talents, some new future stars is delusional. They aren't that. They will be in nba for looong time. But neither will be some top 10-ish player. Ever.

Holy sh*t I wasn't expecting my post to make you hide from so much stuff. Let's finish you.

1) You're parroting the same thing that was parroted about Amen before he took off. You couldn't choose a worse situation to be so disingenuous, we've literally watched his twin get prematurely criticized and then take a dump on all those people. He's rusty and has had injuries. Every single human being who is reading this sentence knows that you know and are just insisting on making a point that requires an explanation like you're 5.

2) You said he's not as talented as above, and above were his stats as a starter. That's the only big thing being touted about Amen. Not a single person has said he'll be a huge scorer, yet you're still up your own butt about his offensive rating in year 2. Stop acting like your sentence wasn't intended to do that. Man up and own up. None of that "I technically didn't say that" cop out.

3) Haha attacking Jabari over Banchero who was literally off the board for us. Imagine how small you are that you're celebrating picking the better player with a HIGHER pick. hahaha I guess watching your team sink down the standings while we rise up is hard. Up until last season, Silas' incompetence allowed you guys to make more progress. That's gone now. I like Paolo but we're good without the 6'10 PF who struggles to score more efficiently than Jalen Green and can't guard a chair unless the whole team protects him. Amen Thompson is clearly going to be a better PF than Banchero and a better SF than Franz. That's what's actually bugging you buddy. You know that if Amen is him, the Magic are no longer in our tier.

4) Aww buddy. Please stop talking about Amen, just stick to insulting me. Anyone who has watched him play can within one sentence see that you don't know what you're talking about. We know you only looked at a website. You're not keeping this secret well. He wasn't drafted to play PG. We had a PG and drafted another - plus really our C is our PG. I know it's hard to understand with all those alligator arms on your squad, but there's this new thing called POSITIONLESS BASKETBALL and Amen is the Greek God Statue of this era. He's dominated PG's, SG's, SF's and PF's. We've moved Fred mostly off ball in the past 20 games. Last season when we had the best record for a month and won 11 straight the longest winning streak in the NBA - Amen was playing C. There's not a single position, off the bench or as a starter, that he hasn't excelled in. The scariest part of all? We had long accepted that Amen is the 0.01% who somehow gets a high net rating even though he can't shoot. That ain't happening. Amen has almost doubled his midrange and 3PT%. Still sucks, but from what we've heard about his legendary off court training habits, it's only going to go one way.

5) Oh we don't have anyone who can ever be a top 10 player but we're a better team than Orlando when both healthy? In the conference that's tougher on average? You keep holding on to that dream little buddy. Those gymnastics you're doing in your head are at least taking advantage of all that space.

I just can't get over the irony of someone with an obvious mental illness going by the name "Sane."

Amen Thompson is a Greek god and a better power forward (a position he can't even play) than Paolo Banchero.

Yeah I've never heard that one! So clever!

Let me be clear: Amen Thompson would outplay Bachero even out of position at PF. Lucky for you, we will see it this season.

[basketballRob]

Holy sh*t I wasn't expecting my post to make you hide from so much stuff. Let's finish you.

1) You're parroting the same thing that was parroted about Amen before he took off. You couldn't choose a worse situation to be so disingenuous, we've literally watched his twin get prematurely criticized and then take a dump on all those people. He's rusty and has had injuries. Every single human being who is reading this sentence knows that you know and are just insisting on making a point that requires an explanation like you're 5.

2) You said he's not as talented as above, and above were his stats as a starter. That's the only big thing being touted about Amen. Not a single person has said he'll be a huge scorer, yet you're still up your own butt about his offensive rating in year 2. Stop acting like your sentence wasn't intended to do that. Man up and own up. None of that "I technically didn't say that" cop out.

3) Haha attacking Jabari over Banchero who was literally off the board for us. Imagine how small you are that you're celebrating picking the better player with a HIGHER pick. hahaha I guess watching your team sink down the standings while we rise up is hard. Up until last season, Silas' incompetence allowed you guys to make more progress. That's gone now. I like Paolo but we're good without the 6'10 PF who struggles to score more efficiently than Jalen Green and can't guard a chair unless the whole team protects him. Amen Thompson is clearly going to be a better PF than Banchero and a better SF than Franz. That's what's actually bugging you buddy. You know that if Amen is him, the Magic are no longer in our tier.

4) Aww buddy. Please stop talking about Amen, just stick to insulting me. Anyone who has watched him play can within one sentence see that you don't know what you're talking about. We know you only looked at a website. You're not keeping this secret well. He wasn't drafted to play PG. We had a PG and drafted another - plus really our C is our PG. I know it's hard to understand with all those alligator arms on your squad, but there's this new thing called POSITIONLESS BASKETBALL and Amen is the Greek God Statue of this era. He's dominated PG's, SG's, SF's and PF's. We've moved Fred mostly off ball in the past 20 games. Last season when we had the best record for a month and won 11 straight the longest winning streak in the NBA - Amen was playing C. There's not a single position, off the bench or as a starter, that he hasn't excelled in. The scariest part of all? We had long accepted that Amen is the 0.01% who somehow gets a high net rating even though he can't shoot. That ain't happening. Amen has almost doubled his midrange and 3PT%. Still sucks, but from what we've heard about his legendary off court training habits, it's only going to go one way.

5) Oh we don't have anyone who can ever be a top 10 player but we're a better team than Orlando when both healthy? In the conference that's tougher on average? You keep holding on to that dream little buddy. Those gymnastics you're doing in your head are at least taking advantage of all that space.

I just can't get over the irony of someone with an obvious mental illness going by the name "Sane."

Amen Thompson is a Greek god and a better power forward (a position he can't even play) than Paolo Banchero.

Yeah I've never heard that one! So clever!

Let me be clear: Amen Thompson would outplay Bachero even out of position at PF. Lucky for you, we will see it this season.

Usually, players who can't make shots outside of the paint like Thompson are considered bigs. It might be a huge liability in the playoffs if they don't have to guard him outside of the paint.

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[JT3000]

Holy sh*t I wasn't expecting my post to make you hide from so much stuff. Let's finish you.

1) You're parroting the same thing that was parroted about Amen before he took off. You couldn't choose a worse situation to be so disingenuous, we've literally watched his twin get prematurely criticized and then take a dump on all those people. He's rusty and has had injuries. Every single human being who is reading this sentence knows that you know and are just insisting on making a point that requires an explanation like you're 5.

2) You said he's not as talented as above, and above were his stats as a starter. That's the only big thing being touted about Amen. Not a single person has said he'll be a huge scorer, yet you're still up your own butt about his offensive rating in year 2. Stop acting like your sentence wasn't intended to do that. Man up and own up. None of that "I technically didn't say that" cop out.

3) Haha attacking Jabari over Banchero who was literally off the board for us. Imagine how small you are that you're celebrating picking the better player with a HIGHER pick. hahaha I guess watching your team sink down the standings while we rise up is hard. Up until last season, Silas' incompetence allowed you guys to make more progress. That's gone now. I like Paolo but we're good without the 6'10 PF who struggles to score more efficiently than Jalen Green and can't guard a chair unless the whole team protects him. Amen Thompson is clearly going to be a better PF than Banchero and a better SF than Franz. That's what's actually bugging you buddy. You know that if Amen is him, the Magic are no longer in our tier.

4) Aww buddy. Please stop talking about Amen, just stick to insulting me. Anyone who has watched him play can within one sentence see that you don't know what you're talking about. We know you only looked at a website. You're not keeping this secret well. He wasn't drafted to play PG. We had a PG and drafted another - plus really our C is our PG. I know it's hard to understand with all those alligator arms on your squad, but there's this new thing called POSITIONLESS BASKETBALL and Amen is the Greek God Statue of this era. He's dominated PG's, SG's, SF's and PF's. We've moved Fred mostly off ball in the past 20 games. Last season when we had the best record for a month and won 11 straight the longest winning streak in the NBA - Amen was playing C. There's not a single position, off the bench or as a starter, that he hasn't excelled in. The scariest part of all? We had long accepted that Amen is the 0.01% who somehow gets a high net rating even though he can't shoot. That ain't happening. Amen has almost doubled his midrange and 3PT%. Still sucks, but from what we've heard about his legendary off court training habits, it's only going to go one way.

5) Oh we don't have anyone who can ever be a top 10 player but we're a better team than Orlando when both healthy? In the conference that's tougher on average? You keep holding on to that dream little buddy. Those gymnastics you're doing in your head are at least taking advantage of all that space.

I just can't get over the irony of someone with an obvious mental illness going by the name "Sane."

Amen Thompson is a Greek god and a better power forward (a position he can't even play) than Paolo Banchero.

Yeah I've never heard that one! So clever!

Let me be clear: Amen Thompson would outplay Bachero even out of position at PF. Lucky for you, we will see it this season.

Oh, you've heard this before? I wonder why. You know, most people don't get told they're insane. It's usually the sign of a serious problem. Like thinking Amen Thompson will ever outplay Banchero at any position.

[Sane]

I just can't get over the irony of someone with an obvious mental illness going by the name "Sane."

Amen Thompson is a Greek god and a better power forward (a position he can't even play) than Paolo Banchero.

Yeah I've never heard that one! So clever!

Let me be clear: Amen Thompson would outplay Bachero even out of position at PF. Lucky for you, we will see it this season.

Usually, players who can't make shots outside of the paint like Thompson are considered bigs. It might be a huge liability in the playoffs if they don't have to guard him outside of the paint.

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You're 100% right and that's what I've been saying since we drafted him.

Then reality happened. I didn't understand that if you're literally in the 0.0001% of elite athletes, you might bend rules. For example, you don't need to pull the rim protector to the 3PT line for Amen. His man can sag off him and the rim protector can be in midrange territory not too far from basket. He WILL blow past them lol it's Giannis-like but with more speed than power. What Giannis has in strength and height, Amen has at least that much in speed and ball-handling. He's a good comp for Amen because most all-time elite athletes are bad defenders.

Further, if your C can shoot (Sengun is on a shooting training program with Chip Engelland's best ex student), then as we saw during our 11 game winning streak Amen can play C on offense (set the pick for Green or play from dunkers spot) and anything on defense (in that streak Jabari played as the C on defense with Amen guarding the PF).

At the moment we have bottom 3 in the NBA shooting/spacing and Amen is finishing at the rim 70%. It's absurd. Every other wing is suffering from our spacing - ours and our opponents actually - except the one guy who can't shoot.

Such an exciting story imo. I'm big on spacing so Amen is a science experiment to me.

[Jaqua92]

Hopefully they'll both do the slam dunk contest. That would be fun.

I'm hoping they run the 100 meters at the next Olympics.

They won't even qualify for trials.

Even the fastest NFL players wouldn't even make trials.

You can take a D1 sprinter who won't ever win an NCAA 100m championship, and he would be the fastest player in the NBA. I don't think people realize how much faster than other pro athletes world class sprinters are.

[Sane]

Hopefully they'll both do the slam dunk contest. That would be fun.

I'm hoping they run the 100 meters at the next Olympics.

They won't even qualify for trials.

Even the fastest NFL players wouldn't even make trials.

You can take a D1 sprinter who won't ever win an NCAA 100m championship, and he would be the fastest player in the NBA. I don't think people realize how much faster than other pro athletes world class sprinters are.

You realize when we talk here, we're talking about winning the sprinting championship while maintaining full control of a bouncing ball. Different sport. Neither can do what the other does.

[UglyBugBall]

Are people actually debating whether Amen is better than Paolo or Franz? Can he be better than PJ Washington or Grant Williams first please

[MrGoat]

Are people actually debating whether Amen is better than Paolo or Franz? Can he be better than PJ Washington or Grant Williams first please

Didn't Amen get into a scuffle with Tyler Herro just a few games ago because Herro was cooking him so bad and he threw a tantrum? Yeah they're good athletes but saying either twin is currently better than Paolo or Franz is certifiably bonkers

[Onlytimewilltel]

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I don't remember seeing anything like this before, so if anyone has some WB/Bron footage that looks equally like someone hit the FF button I'd love to see it.

That video clearly stutters lol. Let me know when they do something like this:

https://youtu.be/rQLUvMNRQ-o?si=xZjsSuQ3GVmftOwT

Damn dude. Maybe get Lebrons clock out of your mouth, it might be easier for you to breathe

[Wargreymon]

What surprises me most about them is how strong they are without being bulky. They won the genetic lottery in every way imaginable. If they somehow develop a 3 point shot, it will be Rockets vs Pistons NBA Finals for the next decade.

[Harry Palmer]

Wow, this got unexpectedly contentious.

[Harry Palmer]

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That burst at the end legitimately looks like a video game.

To be honest I think it could be just a stream thing lol. League Pass sucks so when I rewind for like 15secs or whatever and play it again, it plays at a higher speed until around the point you rewound from, then goes back to normal. Its possible this happened to Mike too.

1) it’s not the video, there are tons of versions around.

2) how would a streaming malfunction make one player suddenly faster than the rest?

[Pelly24]

I don't believe in the stuff to be honest cause my neighbor can do it. Euro leaguers are just as elite at that stuff. Decelerating, finger rolls, incredible handles, etc are just not as rare.

I very crudely define it to be speed x power x vertical. I think that's what most people are interested in tracking and what NBA players are uniquely good at.

yes it is the showiest. but to me in a league of athletic players doing "athletic" things, I'll pick the ones who standout doing whatever it is.

to me it's Westbrook's motor and Giannis being a 7' Westbrook

Kyrie innovating on the spot

lebron's hulking 6'8/255 doing a little of everything and wemby doing it at 7'5

ja is like barishnikov

curry's triangulating from anywhere

they're just a cut above imho

Frankly dude I don't think you're watching the twins if your first sentence is to say what differentiates Westbrook is his motor. Westbrook has that motor on offense and fast break only. Twins have it on both sides and at a larger size. They are exactly like smaller but much faster Giannis.

I think you gotta revisit westbrook. Prime/Peak russ was energetic and active in a way that felt like he was like a 6'6" elite athlete rather than a 6'3" one. He just kept pummeling and pummeling the defense. I'm not sure how else to describe ... it was like watching comic book wolverine in a bloody fight against 100 ninjas or something. I've never seen a motor like that.

[Lalouie]

yes it is the showiest. but to me in a league of athletic players doing "athletic" things, I'll pick the ones who standout doing whatever it is.

to me it's Westbrook's motor and Giannis being a 7' Westbrook

Kyrie innovating on the spot

lebron's hulking 6'8/255 doing a little of everything and wemby doing it at 7'5

ja is like barishnikov

curry's triangulating from anywhere

they're just a cut above imho

Frankly dude I don't think you're watching the twins if your first sentence is to say what differentiates Westbrook is his motor. Westbrook has that motor on offense and fast break only. Twins have it on both sides and at a larger size. They are exactly like smaller but much faster Giannis.

I think you gotta revisit westbrook. Prime/Peak russ was energetic and active in a way that felt like he was like a 6'6" elite athlete rather than a 6'3" one. He just kept pummeling and pummeling the defense. I'm not sure how else to describe ... it was like watching comic book wolverine in a bloody fight against 100 ninjas or something. I've never seen a motor like that.

relentless is the word, and i have often said "moses malone-like". relentless players never stop and simply other players can't stay with them forever. havlicek was relentless too. the other players just become spectators

[Sane]

Frankly dude I don't think you're watching the twins if your first sentence is to say what differentiates Westbrook is his motor. Westbrook has that motor on offense and fast break only. Twins have it on both sides and at a larger size. They are exactly like smaller but much faster Giannis.

I think you gotta revisit westbrook. Prime/Peak russ was energetic and active in a way that felt like he was like a 6'6" elite athlete rather than a 6'3" one. He just kept pummeling and pummeling the defense. I'm not sure how else to describe ... it was like watching comic book wolverine in a bloody fight against 100 ninjas or something. I've never seen a motor like that.

relentless is the word, and i have often said "moses malone-like". relentless players never stop and simply other players can't stay with them forever. havlicek was relentless too. the other players just become spectators

Feel like I'm just repeating the point but I love Russ and I get what you're saying. ANY team who had Russ - like ours - understands that his intensity and confidence on offense is not mirrored on defense. On offense he's confident and relentless on defense he's uncertain and reckless. More importantly, whatever motor Russ has on defense is wasted energy turning to negative points. Amen's defensive energy is 100% locked on the scorer.

Amen Thompson on offense does EXACTLY what you're saying about Russ. Non-stop attack attack attack, just pummels you with dunk attempts and kick outs till your stamina declines. Settles for mid range less than Russ ever did. He just doesn't have the green light to have as much usage as Russ who from his second season onwards could take any shot he wants. His usage is increasing each month though.

Amen Thompson on defense does the exact same thing till you give up (like Ja did tonight at the end of the game). Just suffocates you laterally, chases you down for the recovery block and when you think you can shoot over him you're wrong unless you're above 6'10.

I think we all love this type of player we should be so happy.

Please have a watch of the game tonight, if you guys are Russ fans too you will love it. He is the two way Russ with elite wingspan. Handles not perfect. Shot shaky. Brute force offense. Athletic freak who gets in your face and bullies you if you dare challenge him.

Trust me you're going to be just as big a fan of Amen as you are of WB. If you love that style, he's the one.

[Sane]

Are people actually debating whether Amen is better than Paolo or Franz? Can he be better than PJ Washington or Grant Williams first please

Didn't Amen get into a scuffle with Tyler Herro just a few games ago because Herro was cooking him so bad and he threw a tantrum? Yeah they're good athletes but saying either twin is currently better than Paolo or Franz is certifiably bonkers

11 March 2025
Rockets vs Magic

We're so scared about big 6'10 Paolo size and playmaking skills. Surely, he'll either bully Amen with brute strength or get his usual drives/kickouts. Surely you can just sag off Amen and force him to shoot himself into a bad offensive game. After all, Amen is an itty bitty SF who can't guard Tyler Herro apparently.

Let's see what happens.