Are the Orlando Magic a dirty team?

[cgf]

i want mo wagner on the knicks so bad

No thank you lol. Goga OTOH would be perfect to platoon with Mitch.

[ChiTownHero1992]

If hustle plays are now considered dirty i'm done with basketball this is ridiculous!

Mo's play obviously not a hustle play but the others is just plain and simple basketball diving for loose balls which is what EVERYONE is taught to do its called PLAYING HARD!

[HumbleRen]

No but I do think Suggs and Mo would chase a ball and be okay with the consequences of that potentially hurting someone.

[Shaka_Zulu]

kat and mo wagner have had some absolute battles this year, some definite bad blood

Has been bad blood since Rookie seasons. Mo Wagner in particular besides being a goon towards all has always been extra aggressive and provocative towards Kat.



He has had like 4-5 different jerseys facing Kat and every time he acts like its this vicious huge local rivalry in a game 7 in finals, and his contract will be rescinded after game if he doesn't get under Kats skin.

[DaGawd]

kat and mo wagner have had some absolute battles this year, some definite bad blood

Has been bad blood since Rookie seasons. Mo Wagner in particular besides being a goon towards all has always been extra aggressive and provocative towards Kat.



He has had like 4-5 different jerseys facing Kat and every time he acts like its this vicious huge local rivalry in a game 7 in finals, and his contract will be rescinded after game if he doesn't get under Kats skin.

very accurate

[The Real Dalic]

Not really but that could be colored by the fact that the Mavs have played the Thunder a lot recently. Mo Wagner might've been a little chippy but he's nowhere near the level of a Draymond or Dort

I'm confused by this, are you implying that the Thunder are dirty?

Let me clear up your confusion, yes I am implying that the Thunder are dirty.

Watch on YouTube

That's a dirty play and it might've been out of frustration since the Mavs seem to play them exceptionally well, but I haven't seen a history of them, or Dort, being dirty.

[thelead]

No but I do think Suggs and Mo would chase a ball and be okay with the consequences of that potentially hurting someone.

Including themselves? Yes. Suggs especially. Dude should have played football instead. Hell, the pads and helmet may have made it a safer sport for him.

[NoStatsGuy]

i want mo wagner on the knicks so bad

No thank you lol. Goga OTOH would be perfect to platoon with Mitch.

goga is better defensively for sure. tho i want mo comming off the bench and be an energizer. i dont neccessarily care about the fit with mitch, since mitch is out half the season every year. just cannot rely on him. wouldnt be suprised, if hes not even in our long term plans anymore. mo is super efficient (most games) with very little minutes and hes doesnt hesitate to do the dirty work. to stay on topic lol

[cgf]

i want mo wagner on the knicks so bad

No thank you lol. Goga OTOH would be perfect to platoon with Mitch.

goga is better defensively for sure. tho i want mo comming off the bench and be an energizer. i dont neccessarily care about the fit with mitch, since mitch is out half the season every year. just cannot rely on him. wouldnt be suprised, if hes not even in our long term plans anymore. mo is super efficient (most games) with very little minutes and hes doesnt hesitate to do the dirty work. to stay on topic lol

Nah, Mo is a PoS and mediocre defender. Goga is good enough to anchor our d when Mitch is out and give us 48 minutes of rim protection when he’s not

[og15]

They are defense focused so softies will complain.

To be fair, I don't hear complaint about OKC or the Clippers, though I'm not sure I look at the Magic as dirty as I'm not really paying attention.

[cgf]

No but I do think Suggs and Mo would chase a ball and be okay with the consequences of that potentially hurting someone.

I agree about Mo, but I think Suggs generally does a much better job of going all out without being dangerous...kinda like Hart does for us.

[Audi]

I’d venture to say nearly all of us have spent years watching a guy with a history of intentionally kicking and hitting other players in the nuts…and here we are debating if diving after loose balls is “dirty”.

Is it the off-season already?

[blzbo67]

Magic are not even close to being dirty. Magic play really hard on defense. Their offense is not good and if they don't play close to 100% on D they would not have no chance to make the playoffs. The Ivey injury was obviously an unfortunate accident. Like others have said going back 3 years to find 3 plays that aren't very convincing is a real stretch. Watch Dubs play a game so you can see dirty.

[AussieBuck]

kat and mo wagner have had some absolute battles this year, some definite bad blood

Has been bad blood since Rookie seasons. Mo Wagner in particular besides being a goon towards all has always been extra aggressive and provocative towards Kat.



He has had like 4-5 different jerseys facing Kat and every time he acts like its this vicious huge local rivalry in a game 7 in finals, and his contract will be rescinded after game if he doesn't get under Kats skin.

KAT ain't a fight back kinda guy, no reason for Mo to adjust the goon stuff. Giannis ended up suspended for headbutting Wagner and now they seem relatively ok on court. He doesn't go at Portis either lol

[msmoore66]

Blood thirsty killers they are.

[DaGawd]

kat and mo wagner have had some absolute battles this year, some definite bad blood

Has been bad blood since Rookie seasons. Mo Wagner in particular besides being a goon towards all has always been extra aggressive and provocative towards Kat.



He has had like 4-5 different jerseys facing Kat and every time he acts like its this vicious huge local rivalry in a game 7 in finals, and his contract will be rescinded after game if he doesn't get under Kats skin.

KAT ain't a fight back kinda guy, no reason for Mo to adjust the goon stuff. Giannis ended up suspended for headbutting Wagner and now they seem relatively ok on court. He doesn't go at Portis either lol

kat def is a fight back guy from what i’ve seen lol. he’s even came to blows with embiid when he was in minny

[Davidm89]

Why is this even a discussion? They play tough defense, nothing more.

[davidv2001]

No but I do think Suggs and Mo would chase a ball and be okay with the consequences of that potentially hurting someone.

Including themselves? Yes. Suggs especially. Dude should have played football instead. Hell, the pads and helmet may have made it a safer sport for him.

Considering he just signed a 5-year, 150M contract extension in Orlando, I think Suggs made the right choice playing basketball.

[thelead]

No but I do think Suggs and Mo would chase a ball and be okay with the consequences of that potentially hurting someone.

Including themselves? Yes. Suggs especially. Dude should have played football instead. Hell, the pads and helmet may have made it a safer sport for him.

Considering he just signed a 5-year, 150M contract extension in Orlando, I think Suggs made the right choice playing basketball.

I meant for his own health but yeah, he’s done pretty well for himself by playing basketball

In all honesty, he’s my favorite player in the NBA because he gives it his all every single game.

[davidv2001]

Including themselves? Yes. Suggs especially. Dude should have played football instead. Hell, the pads and helmet may have made it a safer sport for him.

Considering he just signed a 5-year, 150M contract extension in Orlando, I think Suggs made the right choice playing basketball.

I meant for his own health but yeah, he’s done pretty well for himself by playing basketball

In all honesty, he’s my favorite player in the NBA because he gives it his all every single game.

I knew what you meant. I just took the chance to highlight the earning potential difference between the NBA and the NFL, outside of the quarterback position.

I’m a big fan of Suggs, too. Love his defense and energy/effort. Like you said, he plays every possession like it’s his last.