Rockets would be open to trading Alperen Sengun in Giannis Trade

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Re: Rockets would be open to trading Alperen Sengun in Giannis Trade 

Post#61 » by GiannisAnte34 » Sat May 17, 2025 2:11 am

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GiannisAnte34 wrote:I still don’t get why people are operating under the assumption that Giannis has demanded a trade out when there has never been any reason to think that


I understand it hurts for you to read about this


Raptors fans have been trolling about this since 2019

I guess nothing better to do when your franchise cornerstone is Scottie Barnes
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Re: Rockets would be open to trading Alperen Sengun in Giannis Trade 

Post#62 » by JayMKE » Sat May 17, 2025 2:12 am

Gonna pass on this guy, keeping Giannis

Sengun ceiling is Sabonis pretty much
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Post#63 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Sat May 17, 2025 2:13 am

I will say one thing about the Western Conference teams, they are willing to trade anybody. The East hold on to their players longer than maybe should but they really do.
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Re: Rockets would be open to trading Alperen Sengun in Giannis Trade 

Post#64 » by TheRaptor! » Sat May 17, 2025 2:22 am

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GiannisAnte34 wrote:I still don’t get why people are operating under the assumption that Giannis has demanded a trade out when there has never been any reason to think that


I understand it hurts for you to read about this


Raptors fans have been trolling about this since 2019

I guess nothing better to do when your franchise cornerstone is Scottie Barnes


Scottie Barnes is about to be your franchise' corner stone LOL

Tell me why you would stay if you were Giannis and its obvious why the rumours are out there. When theres smoke there is fire

Your team's championship vets are old as hell, Dame is out for the year and hes done, your young talent is non existent, the draft picks are non existant, i literally do not see a way for your team to improve.

Good luck
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Re: Rockets would be open to trading Alperen Sengun in Giannis Trade 

Post#65 » by LarsV8 » Sat May 17, 2025 2:33 am

Makes sense for a number of reasons.

Sengun and Giannis play the same role, so it stands to reason a swap with Houston adding salary and some juicy picks is a good path for Houston. Organic growth, roster balancing and a true star should push Houston to 60 win territory.

I imagine Sengun lands somewhere else though, to help the Bucks get thier picks back, in this scenario. One possibility would be Green and Sengun to NO, for McCollum, Herb and the swaps relinquished.

All the picks to Milwaukee so they would be set up in an extremely favorable rebuild position.

This is all hopium though, need to see what happens when the extension gets offered, and if the trade request happens. I have to imagine Shams story on Giannis looking elsewhere, with no denial, makes this a volatile offseason for Milwaukee.
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Re: Rockets would be open to trading Alperen Sengun in Giannis Trade 

Post#66 » by Domz » Sat May 17, 2025 2:41 am

SlimShady83 wrote:This offseason going to be the best one yet and I can't wait

Other from where Giannis and KD goes, what else am I missing?
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Post#67 » by SlimShady83 » Sat May 17, 2025 2:45 am

Domz wrote:
SlimShady83 wrote:This offseason going to be the best one yet and I can't wait

Other from where Giannis and KD goes, what else am I missing?


Lots of rumors with lots of other stars possibly being moved, just rumors of course but if things shape up to what I expect, will be a busy offseason for a lot of teams.
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Post#68 » by Effigy » Sat May 17, 2025 2:46 am

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donkki wrote:This is the way the Mavericks should have made it an open bidding war for Luka. But no.


Hey when you have the chance to get a broken down injury prone player 7 years older than you’re 25 year old superstar you have to do that every time.


This 25 year old sounds pretty down these last couple seasons. But no matter how you slice it, Anthony Davis alone is worth more Reeves/Hachimura/Vando/picks…..not to mention this is for a better player


Last couple seasons? Less than a year ago he dragged a bad Mavericks team to the finals.
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Post#69 » by Dan Z » Sat May 17, 2025 2:57 am

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MoreyWins wrote:That's why I said if. Unless the Bucks plan to trade Giannis behind his back, he will hand pick which team he wants to join. Overpaying for superstars in trades has an extremely high rate of failure at achieving the goal of a championship. You can look at the two examples you highlighted yourself. If Giannis doesn't want to go to your team then you're overpaying compared to what his desired team would have to pay. If he doesn't want to be a Rocket, then cool. We should keep building for the present and the future like we are now.


You make it sound like the Rockets will get Giannis at a discounted rate.

I hope you do better at reading comprehension in the future.


I read it. No need for insults.

Your point is that Houston has an advantage if he demands to go there and anyone else will have to overpay and it won't lead to a championship. Lots of trades don't lead to championships. I was just pointing out that he can demand to go to Houston, but that doesn't mean he'll necessarily end up there. Or that Milwaukee will have to take less to make that happen (hence my examples).
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Re: Rockets would be open to trading Alperen Sengun in Giannis Trade 

Post#70 » by GiannisAnte34 » Sat May 17, 2025 10:33 am

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GiannisAnte34 wrote:
TheRaptor! wrote:
I understand it hurts for you to read about this


Raptors fans have been trolling about this since 2019

I guess nothing better to do when your franchise cornerstone is Scottie Barnes


Scottie Barnes is about to be your franchise' corner stone LOL

Tell me why you would stay if you were Giannis and its obvious why the rumours are out there. When theres smoke there is fire

Your team's championship vets are old as hell, Dame is out for the year and hes done, your young talent is non existent, the draft picks are non existant, i literally do not see a way for your team to improve.

Good luck


In what universe is Scottie Barnes bringing back Giannis in a trade? Even Scottie Barnes and Brandon Ingram makes no sense

IQ, Poetl, and RJ are the only other players worth mentioning, so let’s not pretend the Raptors are brimming with young talent either
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Re: Rockets would be open to trading Alperen Sengun in Giannis Trade 

Post#71 » by FarBeyondDriven » Sat May 17, 2025 11:08 am

sp6r=underrated wrote:
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bkkrh wrote:It is, but scrolling 30 seconds through the article you can tell that it's just the usual pointless media trade fantasies. Of course there is the obligatory "The Lakers could build a draft around Reaves, Hachimura and a few smaller salaried players + some 1st rounders they magically aquire from a third team" :roll: .

Best part, while the Knicks have of course also not much to offer, the Lakers are according to the article in a better position to land Giannis than them :lol: .


Did you see the Luka trade? This is just facts. The league will step in and make a deal happen for the Lakers if they decide it needs to. Whatever assets the Lakers have are irrelevant


If you really believe this you should stop caring about NBA outcomes or become a lakers fan.


typical garbage reasoning. "Hey guys, yes things suck and are corrupt but why complain, just stop caring then these things about something you love won't bother you?!"
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Re: Rockets would be open to trading Alperen Sengun in Giannis Trade 

Post#72 » by Rustyman » Sat May 17, 2025 11:30 am

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:If I’m the Bucks I tell Houston the conversations start with Amen or kick rocks. Sengun is a joke of an offer as the main centerpiece.

And that goes without saying, same with OKC and JDub, same with the Spurs and Castle.

The opportunity to acquire a player like Giannis is literally generational.


I agree with this sentiment. If you trading for Giannis, you have to open the bag. I am a Spurs fan and my preference would be an offer based around the 2nd pick and future picks however, if the Bucks want Castle, I would drive him there myself.
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Re: Rockets would be open to trading Alperen Sengun in Giannis Trade 

Post#73 » by Rust_Cohle » Sat May 17, 2025 11:40 am

7seventynine9 wrote:I dunno. They'd be legit contenders for 5-6 years and still have pieces to make other moves.

Titles are really valuable, if you can give your team a legit chance at winning a title over a 5 year window, you take it.

It's like when I see Spurs fans saying they wouldn't trade Castle in a deal for Giannis. That's fine. I'm sure your GM would though.


Not if it is for castle and the #2 pick and another top 6 player on the team. A straight up swap castle for giannis? Sure, but that would never happen
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Re: Rockets would be open to trading Alperen Sengun in Giannis Trade 

Post#74 » by sp6r=underrated » Sat May 17, 2025 4:38 pm

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sp6r=underrated wrote:
Effigy wrote:
Did you see the Luka trade? This is just facts. The league will step in and make a deal happen for the Lakers if they decide it needs to. Whatever assets the Lakers have are irrelevant


If you really believe this you should stop caring about NBA outcomes or become a lakers fan.


typical garbage reasoning. "Hey guys, yes things suck and are corrupt but why complain, just stop caring then these things about something you love won't bother you?!"


Some problems can be fixed. The NBA had a problem where the game had become too tilted towards defenses so they changed the rules post-2004 and the game became more balanced. MLB had a problem where games were becoming too long so they introduced a pitch clock. Game time has gone down significantly since the change.

But other problems are unfixable. The Conspiracy Theory about the NBA is that the owners working through the commissioner manipulates trades and the draft to ensure the Lakers are a perpetual contender and also other preferred teams selectively benefit.

If this conspiracy is true the NBA's current owners, commissioner, former owners, key management personnel and business partners have engaged in a multi-decade conspiracy to defraud customers. The conspirators are so powerful they've managed a multi-decade conspiracy without any evidence for the conspiracy leaking out.

If this is true the NBA is unfixable because the entire institution of the NBA is corrupt. So if you believe in the conspiracy you shouldn't care about the NBA.

Spoiler:
The conspiracy isn't true. And most believers suffer from low social trust.
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Re: Rockets would be open to trading Alperen Sengun in Giannis Trade 

Post#75 » by TheAlchemist » Sat May 17, 2025 5:13 pm

Wait , am I missing something?

If the rockets have to give up Sengun and Green + picks, what would they really have left? Amen Thompson, Fred Van Vleet, Dillon Brooks and Giannis? Is that even enough?

A trade of Sengun + Green for Giannis + Portis works. Just think that's a lot to give up man.
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Re: Rockets would be open to trading Alperen Sengun in Giannis Trade 

Post#76 » by MavsDirk41 » Sat May 17, 2025 5:25 pm

sp6r=underrated wrote:
FarBeyondDriven wrote:
sp6r=underrated wrote:
If you really believe this you should stop caring about NBA outcomes or become a lakers fan.


typical garbage reasoning. "Hey guys, yes things suck and are corrupt but why complain, just stop caring then these things about something you love won't bother you?!"


Some problems can be fixed. The NBA had a problem where the game had become too tilted towards defenses so they changed the rules post-2004 and the game became more balanced. MLB had a problem where games were becoming too long so they introduced a pitch clock. Game time has gone down significantly since the change.

But other problems are unfixable. The Conspiracy Theory about the NBA is that the owners working through the commissioner manipulates trades and the draft to ensure the Lakers are a perpetual contender and also other preferred teams selectively benefit.

If this conspiracy is true the NBA's current owners, commissioner, former owners, key management personnel and business partners have engaged in a multi-decade conspiracy to defraud customers. The conspirators are so powerful they've managed a multi-decade conspiracy without any evidence for the conspiracy leaking out.

If this is true the NBA is unfixable because the entire institution of the NBA is corrupt. So if you believe in the conspiracy you shouldn't care about the NBA.

Spoiler:
The conspiracy isn't true. And most believers suffer from low social trust.



Thanks Dr. Phil great job. Lol you actually think Nico Harrison trading Luka to LA for an aging Anthony Davis, Max Christie, and a draft pick years from now was a solid move? Come on man
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Re: Rockets would be open to trading Alperen Sengun in Giannis Trade 

Post#77 » by sp6r=underrated » Sat May 17, 2025 5:28 pm

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sp6r=underrated wrote:
FarBeyondDriven wrote:
typical garbage reasoning. "Hey guys, yes things suck and are corrupt but why complain, just stop caring then these things about something you love won't bother you?!"


Some problems can be fixed. The NBA had a problem where the game had become too tilted towards defenses so they changed the rules post-2004 and the game became more balanced. MLB had a problem where games were becoming too long so they introduced a pitch clock. Game time has gone down significantly since the change.

But other problems are unfixable. The Conspiracy Theory about the NBA is that the owners working through the commissioner manipulates trades and the draft to ensure the Lakers are a perpetual contender and also other preferred teams selectively benefit.

If this conspiracy is true the NBA's current owners, commissioner, former owners, key management personnel and business partners have engaged in a multi-decade conspiracy to defraud customers. The conspirators are so powerful they've managed a multi-decade conspiracy without any evidence for the conspiracy leaking out.

If this is true the NBA is unfixable because the entire institution of the NBA is corrupt. So if you believe in the conspiracy you shouldn't care about the NBA.

Spoiler:
The conspiracy isn't true. And most believers suffer from low social trust.



Thanks Dr. Phil great job. Lol you actually think Nico Harrison trading Luka to LA for an aging Anthony Davis, Max Christie, and a draft pick years from now was a solid move? Come on man


I think Nico Harrison was acting in what he felt was the best interests of the Mavericks. He was really bad at his job.

If you believe the trade was made because Nico secretly wanted to help the lakers due to Nike. You should stop following the Mavericks. IF you think he made the trade because Silver forced him to and in return gave him Flagg you should stop following the NBA since it isn't a real sports league.
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Re: Rockets would be open to trading Alperen Sengun in Giannis Trade 

Post#78 » by G R E Y » Sat May 17, 2025 5:33 pm

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52-12-7 wrote:Milwaukee needs to trade Giannis this off season. There could be a bidding war between teams like Houston, San Antonio, and OKC (if they lose in the playoffs), and they could get a king's ransom. They would be foolish to pass up this opportunity, and Giannis isn't getting younger.


They can't rebuild for ages, so they can't just sell him for a king's ransom right now. If they move him they're likely gunna try to stay competitive-ish until their pick debt is paid.

They can if teams that hold Bucks picks can be involved into parting with them. If Bucks get some win now talent back, those picks lose kotto value anyway. So there's a lot of options at play.
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Re: Rockets would be open to trading Alperen Sengun in Giannis Trade 

Post#79 » by Black Jack » Sat May 17, 2025 5:41 pm

Sengun isn't good enough to be a trader centerpiece for Giannis

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Re: Rockets would be open to trading Alperen Sengun in Giannis Trade 

Post#80 » by MavsDirk41 » Sat May 17, 2025 5:43 pm

sp6r=underrated wrote:
MavsDirk41 wrote:
sp6r=underrated wrote:
Some problems can be fixed. The NBA had a problem where the game had become too tilted towards defenses so they changed the rules post-2004 and the game became more balanced. MLB had a problem where games were becoming too long so they introduced a pitch clock. Game time has gone down significantly since the change.

But other problems are unfixable. The Conspiracy Theory about the NBA is that the owners working through the commissioner manipulates trades and the draft to ensure the Lakers are a perpetual contender and also other preferred teams selectively benefit.

If this conspiracy is true the NBA's current owners, commissioner, former owners, key management personnel and business partners have engaged in a multi-decade conspiracy to defraud customers. The conspirators are so powerful they've managed a multi-decade conspiracy without any evidence for the conspiracy leaking out.

If this is true the NBA is unfixable because the entire institution of the NBA is corrupt. So if you believe in the conspiracy you shouldn't care about the NBA.

Spoiler:
The conspiracy isn't true. And most believers suffer from low social trust.



Thanks Dr. Phil great job. Lol you actually think Nico Harrison trading Luka to LA for an aging Anthony Davis, Max Christie, and a draft pick years from now was a solid move? Come on man


I think Nico Harrison was acting in what he felt was the best interests of the Mavericks. He was really bad at his job.

If you believe the trade was made because Nico secretly wanted to help the lakers due to Nike. You should stop following the Mavericks. IF you think he made the trade because Silver forced him to and in return gave him Flagg you should stop following the NBA since it isn't a real sports league.



If Nico Harrison acted in the best interests of the Mavericks he would have shopped Luka around to a few teams that could have offered a better return. Only calling Pelinka cause you just have to have Davis? No i dont think he is that incompetent, or “bad at his job.” I think there was some stuff behind closed doors that we will never know. LA got a generational talent to lead the franchise and James another star sidekick. Mavs got Flagg in return. No need for you to get so defensive lol

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