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Re: Suns aggressively shopping Durant before draft 

Post#61 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Wed Jun 4, 2025 2:17 pm

I think NY makes a little too much sense.

Phoenix covets acquiring a center in any KD trade.

NY has one that’s reportedly available that conveniently is Devin Bookers best friend.

Salaries match almost perfectly.

NY is one alpha away from being real contenders.

KAT is probably the best single player Phoenix could trade Durant for.

Durant goes to the best team in the East (presumably) where it’s wide open.


If Im NY, Im doing everything possible to make that swap. Perfect player, perfect timing and perfect trade imo.
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Re: Suns aggressively shopping Durant before draft 

Post#62 » by Yank3525 » Wed Jun 4, 2025 2:17 pm

Knicks can straight up offer Kat for KD right? KD is old, but still an elite scorer and NY really needs that. Brunson is too athletic limited to be a number one option on a championship team.
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Re: Suns aggressively shopping Durant before draft 

Post#63 » by G R E Y » Wed Jun 4, 2025 2:21 pm

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G R E Y wrote:What would Suns fans want from/think is a fair deal with the Spurs?


I dunno why but I have this weird feeling he is going to end up here. Something like either Keldon or Barnes + Vassell and #14 plus either a future swap or protected 1st might get it done. I don't know how many teams would be willing to overpay for KD in this market. His salary makes things tricky for most teams

I think Keldon being with Klutch means he stays. If Suns want expirings and win now players and picks, then Barnes, Vassell with whatever they work out picks wise. I hope this doesn't include 14 and we give up more lower/future picks rather than a lotto pick.
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Re: Suns aggressively shopping Durant before draft 

Post#64 » by Bornstellar » Wed Jun 4, 2025 2:27 pm

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G R E Y wrote:What would Suns fans want from/think is a fair deal with the Spurs?


I dunno why but I have this weird feeling he is going to end up here. Something like either Keldon or Barnes + Vassell and #14 plus either a future swap or protected 1st might get it done. I don't know how many teams would be willing to overpay for KD in this market. His salary makes things tricky for most teams

I think Keldon being with Klutch means he stays. If Suns want expirings and win now players and picks, then Barnes, Vassell with whatever they work out picks wise. I hope this doesn't include 14 and we give up more lower/future picks rather than a lotto pick.

Kind of in the same boat. I wouldn't necessarily mind KD, as Wemby/Fox/KD is a solid big three for the next couple of years and should certainly help us get some PO experience. But I would also prefer they use that salary in a trade for someone younger and use the pick to either draft or trade for a backup C. Gonna be an interesting few weeks leading up to the draft
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Re: Suns aggressively shopping Durant before draft 

Post#65 » by G R E Y » Wed Jun 4, 2025 2:44 pm

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I dunno why but I have this weird feeling he is going to end up here. Something like either Keldon or Barnes + Vassell and #14 plus either a future swap or protected 1st might get it done. I don't know how many teams would be willing to overpay for KD in this market. His salary makes things tricky for most teams

I think Keldon being with Klutch means he stays. If Suns want expirings and win now players and picks, then Barnes, Vassell with whatever they work out picks wise. I hope this doesn't include 14 and we give up more lower/future picks rather than a lotto pick.

Kind of in the same boat. I wouldn't necessarily mind KD, as Wemby/Fox/KD is a solid big three for the next couple of years and should certainly help us get some PO experience. But I would also prefer they use that salary in a trade for someone younger and use the pick to either draft or trade for a backup C. Gonna be an interesting few weeks leading up to the draft

Yeah I'm on the keeping 14 and acquiring one of Murphy III, Herb Jones, NAW train, but ok with KD depending on cost, and of course Giannis IF he wants to be here and is ok with not being *the* guy to be built around. I don't think GA is there yet. That's his right, he's an amazing player, proven it at the highest level; nevertheless, this is Wemby's team.
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Re: Suns aggressively shopping Durant before draft 

Post#66 » by SkyBill40 » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:01 pm

G R E Y wrote:
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G R E Y wrote:What would Suns fans want from/think is a fair deal with the Spurs?


I dunno why but I have this weird feeling he is going to end up here. Something like either Keldon or Barnes + Vassell and #14 plus either a future swap or protected 1st might get it done. I don't know how many teams would be willing to overpay for KD in this market. His salary makes things tricky for most teams

I think Keldon being with Klutch means he stays. If Suns want expirings and win now players and picks, then Barnes, Vassell with whatever they work out picks wise. I hope this doesn't include 14 and we give up more lower/future picks rather than a lotto pick.


Talks likely won't even start unless they're including one of those lottery picks. Let's be serious now: Ishbia clearly isn't concerned with the tax liability and cutting costs. He wants to win now and continue winning after. It's also going to take more than just one pick even though it's being reported that PHX has supposedly lowered their cost on him.
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Re: Suns aggressively shopping Durant before draft 

Post#67 » by The Master » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:04 pm

I bet that some people will be surprised how little is value of 37yo in contract year on a +50 million deal. Old teams don't have interesting assets and young teams would be hesitant to include these assets in trade for a 37yo who doesn't match timeline of their young stars.
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Post#68 » by liquidswords » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:11 pm

Knicks, Wolves and Nuggets make the most sense
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Post#69 » by SkyBill40 » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:12 pm

Yank3525 wrote:Knicks can straight up offer Kat for KD right? KD is old, but still an elite scorer and NY really needs that. Brunson is too athletic limited to be a number one option on a championship team.


No, they cannot. They are over the first apron and only $53k away from the second. It would work going to PHX as Towns makes less, but it would not work going to NY for Durant without some additional working towards moving ~ $1.5M.
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Re: Suns aggressively shopping Durant before draft 

Post#70 » by tamaraw08 » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:25 pm

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:I think NY makes a little too much sense.

Phoenix covets acquiring a center in any KD trade.

NY has one that’s reportedly available that conveniently is Devin Bookers best friend.

Salaries match almost perfectly.

NY is one alpha away from being real contenders.

KAT is probably the best single player Phoenix could trade Durant for.

Durant goes to the best team in the East (presumably) where it’s wide open.


If Im NY, Im doing everything possible to make that swap. Perfect player, perfect timing and perfect trade imo.


Why can't NY go for a younger and much better defender like Giannis? How many FRP's can they offer?
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Re: Suns aggressively shopping Durant before draft 

Post#71 » by HMFFL » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:27 pm

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doogie_hauser wrote:Best fit for him would be Minnesota imho


For Randle plus…?
Suns going to make more mistakes by extending Randle?

Taking on the trash of other teams seems to be their thing.
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Re: Suns aggressively shopping Durant before draft 

Post#72 » by Bornstellar » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:47 pm

G R E Y wrote:
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G R E Y wrote:I think Keldon being with Klutch means he stays. If Suns want expirings and win now players and picks, then Barnes, Vassell with whatever they work out picks wise. I hope this doesn't include 14 and we give up more lower/future picks rather than a lotto pick.

Kind of in the same boat. I wouldn't necessarily mind KD, as Wemby/Fox/KD is a solid big three for the next couple of years and should certainly help us get some PO experience. But I would also prefer they use that salary in a trade for someone younger and use the pick to either draft or trade for a backup C. Gonna be an interesting few weeks leading up to the draft

Yeah I'm on the keeping 14 and acquiring one of Murphy III, Herb Jones, NAW train, but ok with KD depending on cost, and of course Giannis IF he wants to be here and is ok with not being *the* guy to be built around. I don't think GA is there yet. That's his right, he's an amazing player, proven it at the highest level; nevertheless, this is Wemby's team.

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Re: Suns aggressively shopping Durant before draft 

Post#73 » by Effigy » Wed Jun 4, 2025 4:13 pm

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Magic_Johnny12 wrote:I think NY makes a little too much sense.

Phoenix covets acquiring a center in any KD trade.

NY has one that’s reportedly available that conveniently is Devin Bookers best friend.

Salaries match almost perfectly.

NY is one alpha away from being real contenders.

KAT is probably the best single player Phoenix could trade Durant for.

Durant goes to the best team in the East (presumably) where it’s wide open.


If Im NY, Im doing everything possible to make that swap. Perfect player, perfect timing and perfect trade imo.


Why can't NY go for a younger and much better defender like Giannis? How many FRP's can they offer?


They can go for him, but the Bucks have to want to trade him and I don't think they're there yet. And even if they are, the Knicks are unlikely to have the best offer. Durant is actually obtainable though.

Even if the league wants to fix Giannis to the Knicks, Phoenix doesn't have their own first round pick for years, so they can't get a 'surprise' number one pick. :lol:
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Re: Suns aggressively shopping Durant before draft 

Post#74 » by AlexanderRight » Wed Jun 4, 2025 4:20 pm

Sixers in 4 wrote:Austin Reeves + Knecht salary filler plus a first round pick and a couple of swaps seems like a more than fair deal.

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Re: Suns aggressively shopping Durant before draft 

Post#75 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Wed Jun 4, 2025 4:21 pm

tamaraw08 wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:I think NY makes a little too much sense.

Phoenix covets acquiring a center in any KD trade.

NY has one that’s reportedly available that conveniently is Devin Bookers best friend.

Salaries match almost perfectly.

NY is one alpha away from being real contenders.

KAT is probably the best single player Phoenix could trade Durant for.

Durant goes to the best team in the East (presumably) where it’s wide open.


If Im NY, Im doing everything possible to make that swap. Perfect player, perfect timing and perfect trade imo.


Why can't NY go for a younger and much better defender like Giannis? How many FRP's can they offer?


Well they can definitely try, but NY doesn’t have the assets to acquire a player like Giannis and I’m not totally sure they need to.
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Post#76 » by Optms » Wed Jun 4, 2025 4:26 pm

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G R E Y wrote:
Bornstellar wrote:Kind of in the same boat. I wouldn't necessarily mind KD, as Wemby/Fox/KD is a solid big three for the next couple of years and should certainly help us get some PO experience. But I would also prefer they use that salary in a trade for someone younger and use the pick to either draft or trade for a backup C. Gonna be an interesting few weeks leading up to the draft

Yeah I'm on the keeping 14 and acquiring one of Murphy III, Herb Jones, NAW train, but ok with KD depending on cost, and of course Giannis IF he wants to be here and is ok with not being *the* guy to be built around. I don't think GA is there yet. That's his right, he's an amazing player, proven it at the highest level; nevertheless, this is Wemby's team.

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Sleeper team but that would be a low key contender team. May be even champions depending if Wemby takes another step.
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Re: Suns aggressively shopping Durant before draft 

Post#77 » by Fo-Real » Wed Jun 4, 2025 4:31 pm

doogie_hauser wrote:Best fit for him would be Minnesota imho


His best fit basketball wise is the Spurs.
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Re: Suns aggressively shopping Durant before draft 

Post#78 » by Woodsanity » Wed Jun 4, 2025 4:31 pm

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Denver badly needs a talent upgrade but the pairing of Durant and Jokic hits me as a disaster on the defensive end. And on the offensive end Durant wouldn't maximize Jokic's passing given the ambivalence he showed for Golden State's motion offense at the end of his tenure there.

Well Nuggets have MPJ and Murray and neither of them can guard a garbage can. Durant is 100x better than MPJ and isnt as bad defensively.
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Re: Suns aggressively shopping Durant before draft 

Post#79 » by phanman » Wed Jun 4, 2025 4:34 pm

tamaraw08 wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:I think NY makes a little too much sense.

Phoenix covets acquiring a center in any KD trade.

NY has one that’s reportedly available that conveniently is Devin Bookers best friend.

Salaries match almost perfectly.

NY is one alpha away from being real contenders.

KAT is probably the best single player Phoenix could trade Durant for.

Durant goes to the best team in the East (presumably) where it’s wide open.


If Im NY, Im doing everything possible to make that swap. Perfect player, perfect timing and perfect trade imo.


Why can't NY go for a younger and much better defender like Giannis? How many FRP's can they offer?

They don't have any after trading 5 away for Bridges. They technically own their 26 and 30 but they can't trade those due to the Stepien Rule.
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Re: Suns aggressively shopping Durant before draft 

Post#80 » by UglyBugBall » Wed Jun 4, 2025 4:35 pm

Durant feels like fool's gold at this point. He can still score, but he doesn't really impact games in a meaningful way anymore. To me, he's not even a real second option, no matter what the scoring numbers say. And if he's your third option, you're probably giving up too much on defense, especially since your top two guys usually aren't strong defenders either, with a few exceptions. He's too good to come off the bench, but honestly, that might be the role that fits best if you're trying to win a title. So I'm not sure that Durant really has a realistic spot on a title team right now. He's both too good and too bad to fit into where he needs to be.

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