Boston wants to move Simons, per Wiretap

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Re: Boston wants to move Simons, per Wiretap 

Post#61 » by SkyBill40 » Wed Jul 9, 2025 5:35 pm

ball_takes23 wrote:Phx for Grayson Allen

Boston sheds salary, Phx gets a Beal replacement


No thanks. I'd rather we keep Allen. There's no need to swap a player for more positional redundancy.
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Re: Boston wants to move Simons, per Wiretap 

Post#62 » by JujitsuFlip » Wed Jul 9, 2025 5:38 pm

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tamaraw08 wrote:Charlotte is probably interested because they badly need a guard.
Huh? Lamelo, Sexton, Mann, Dinwiddie, Connaughton, and heck even Josh Green.

I'd say guard is not a need at all for the Hornets lol


LOL put all those guys together and you get one guard for half a season
Ain't no way 6 guys are going to play only 6.8 games a piece lol
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Re: Boston wants to move Simons, per Wiretap 

Post#63 » by Froob » Wed Jul 9, 2025 5:42 pm

ball_takes23 wrote:Phx for Grayson Allen

Boston sheds salary, Phx gets a Beal replacement

Grayson Allen on the Celtics is perfect in so many ways. People would hate him more than ever.
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Re: Boston wants to move Simons, per Wiretap 

Post#64 » by Tacoma » Wed Jul 9, 2025 5:48 pm

sca wrote:
Wolveswin wrote:Tough to make salary work and need to wait until Simons can be aggregated, but…

White/Simons for Randle/DDV/Conley

Celtics need to add some value.

Why would the Celtics do this?


The guy's name being "Wolveswin" should provide a clue.
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Re: Boston wants to move Simons, per Wiretap 

Post#65 » by Anderson Hunt » Wed Jul 9, 2025 6:25 pm

Sixers in 4 wrote:More evidence this was a bad deal for Portland. If Boston wants to move Anfernee Simons afterwards that is straight up telling you they feel he has more value than Jrue around the NBA.

Depending on your definition of "value", that's not true. Simons doesn't have more value than Holiday..

"Value" to me means the ability to secure a positive return from said asset. In my opinion, even with Holiday's horrendous contract, you have a greater chance of securing a positive asset in return for him than Simons.

It just so happens that Boston isn't interested in positive assets. Their more concerned with clearing salary than acquiring "value".
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Re: Boston wants to move Simons, per Wiretap 

Post#66 » by hauntedcomputer » Wed Jul 9, 2025 7:13 pm

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JujitsuFlip wrote:Huh? Lamelo, Sexton, Mann, Dinwiddie, Connaughton, and heck even Josh Green.

I'd say guard is not a need at all for the Hornets lol


LOL put all those guys together and you get one guard for half a season
Ain't no way 6 guys are going to play only 6.8 games a piece lol


Was talking quality, not quantity
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Re: Boston wants to move Simons, per Wiretap 

Post#67 » by DusterBuster » Wed Jul 9, 2025 7:14 pm

Really hard to believe the Celtics can get a 1st for Simons anywhere. 2nd round picks is pretty much the going rate for most all player trades right now.
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Re: Boston wants to move Simons, per Wiretap 

Post#68 » by DusterBuster » Wed Jul 9, 2025 7:15 pm

Tacoma wrote:
sca wrote:
Wolveswin wrote:Tough to make salary work and need to wait until Simons can be aggregated, but…

White/Simons for Randle/DDV/Conley

Celtics need to add some value.

Why would the Celtics do this?


The guy's name being "Wolveswin" should provide a clue.


The funny part is, this deal doesn't even make any sense for the Wolves...
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Re: Boston wants to move Simons, per Wiretap 

Post#69 » by Wolveswin » Wed Jul 9, 2025 7:33 pm

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sca wrote:Why would the Celtics do this?


The guy's name being "Wolveswin" should provide a clue.


The funny part is, this deal doesn't even make any sense for the Wolves...

How’s that. White has been like #1 target for Wolves upgrade at PG. now you know.
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Re: Boston wants to move Simons, per Wiretap 

Post#70 » by Capn'O » Wed Jul 9, 2025 7:47 pm

Sixers in 4 wrote:More evidence this was a bad deal for Portland. If Boston wants to move Anfernee Simons afterwards that is straight up telling you they feel he has more value than Jrue around the NBA.


Shouldn't we wait until we see the deal, if one even materializes?
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Re: Boston wants to move Simons, per Wiretap 

Post#71 » by Upperclass » Wed Jul 9, 2025 7:51 pm

They arent moving him. He's 25ppg on 40/40/85+ on that team next season.
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Re: Boston wants to move Simons, per Wiretap 

Post#72 » by Celts17Pride » Wed Jul 9, 2025 8:07 pm

DusterBuster wrote:Really hard to believe the Celtics can get a 1st for Simons anywhere. 2nd round picks is pretty much the going rate for most all player trades right now.

The better question is what can the Celtics get for Simons the player, his expiring contract and a Celtics 1st round pick?
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Re: Boston wants to move Simons, per Wiretap 

Post#73 » by JujitsuFlip » Wed Jul 9, 2025 8:37 pm

hauntedcomputer wrote:
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hauntedcomputer wrote:
LOL put all those guys together and you get one guard for half a season
Ain't no way 6 guys are going to play only 6.8 games a piece lol


Was talking quality, not quantity
Hmm, not sure i agree.
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Re: Boston wants to move Simons, per Wiretap 

Post#74 » by magee » Wed Jul 9, 2025 8:38 pm

Boston might try and find situations where they get expiring deals in a package for him, like Chicago's Kevin Huerter and Jevon Carter. They save a little bit, it doesn't affect the Bulls' cap space next year, and might be able to move Carter or Huerter separately to duck the Luxury Tax.
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Re: Boston wants to move Simons, per Wiretap 

Post#75 » by Bad-Thoma » Wed Jul 9, 2025 9:38 pm

Wolveswin wrote:Tough to make salary work and need to wait until Simons can be aggregated, but…

White/Simons for Randle/DDV/Conley

Celtics need to add some value.


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Re: Boston wants to move Simons, per Wiretap 

Post#76 » by HMFFL » Wed Jul 9, 2025 9:47 pm

Capn'O wrote:
Sixers in 4 wrote:More evidence this was a bad deal for Portland. If Boston wants to move Anfernee Simons afterwards that is straight up telling you they feel he has more value than Jrue around the NBA.


Shouldn't we wait until we see the deal, if one even materializes?
Sixers In 4 apparently doesn't realize that it's easier to move $27m than is to move $70m, which will be over $100m if the player option is accepted.

Portland has a direction now. Mulitple starting positions are set for long-term while Bostons new ownership looks clueless. The exception is that they want money off their books.
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Re: Boston wants to move Simons, per Wiretap 

Post#77 » by 7seventynine9 » Wed Jul 9, 2025 10:34 pm

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Sixers in 4 wrote:More evidence this was a bad deal for Portland. If Boston wants to move Anfernee Simons afterwards that is straight up telling you they feel he has more value than Jrue around the NBA.


I’m still pretty sus on the Portland deal as well, but that being said, we should wait to see what / if anything, they get for Simons.

Also, this could just be them calling to get an idea about his value. They likely don’t want to resign him, so this is more likely the Celtics calling to get a baseline idea of his trade value for a potential deadline move. If they know what teams already have interest, they can reach back out to them in-season.

As for trade value, Simons should be much easier to move than Jrue, they got lucky Portland was actually motivated and interested in taking him on since they are hoping to replicate the CP3 in OKC situation for Scoot. But Simons expiring deal likely will hamper his value as he’s likely just a rental for most teams.

The Celtics need to find a team who’s motivated to trade for AND resign him (or work a extend and trade) to get the best value.

Simons is an interesting test case imo. He's kind of in the middle class that’s getting killed with the new CBA. He's has an elite scoring talent and can shoot from anywhere, but he’s not proven to be a near All Star caliber player. This 20-25mil is probably what he should stay at, but he’s probably going to expect more in the 30 range, which pushes him into overpaid. Not sure who’s out there that wants to foot that bill for a guy who’s a elite shooter, decent passer, piss-poor defender and somewhat injury prone.


I'd guess he struggles to get even 20. There are so many guys like him in the league.
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Re: Boston wants to move Simons, per Wiretap 

Post#78 » by Sixers in 4 » Wed Jul 9, 2025 10:44 pm

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Sixers in 4 wrote:More evidence this was a bad deal for Portland. If Boston wants to move Anfernee Simons afterwards that is straight up telling you they feel he has more value than Jrue around the NBA.


Shouldn't we wait until we see the deal, if one even materializes?
Sixers In 4 apparently doesn't realize that it's easier to move $27m than is to move $70m, which will be over $100m if the player option is accepted.

Portland has a direction now. Mulitple starting positions are set for long-term while Bostons new ownership looks clueless. The exception is that they want money off their books.


I am waffling on your post it seems sarcastic at first but then it doesn't at the end.

I don't get Portland's direction at all. Jrue is 35; he is only going to continue to decline as a player as Portland should be getting better, they are on two completely different timelines the trade makes no sense at all for them, and I stand by my initial assessment.
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Re: Boston wants to move Simons, per Wiretap 

Post#79 » by dballislife » Wed Jul 9, 2025 11:58 pm

bos being smart, trade everyone...sit and rest the ones that stay all season...go full on tank for one year as tatum rest and hopefully get lucky with a stacked top 3 next draft
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Re: Boston wants to move Simons, per Wiretap 

Post#80 » by John Murdoch » Thu Jul 10, 2025 12:01 am

Beasly replacement in Detroit?
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