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Re: Create the greatest offense of all time 

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Steph
Klay
KD
Lebron
Jokic

Or

Steph
Klay
KD
Lebron
Giannis

The three point shooting around peak LeBron would just be gamebreaking.


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Why Klay over Ray

Faster release than Ray and think was a better overall shooter than Ray. He also extremely clutch, good leader, and fits into a team concept. People don’t seem to like Ray (but that’s just extra reasoning).


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And better defensively
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Re: Create the greatest offense of all time 

Post#62 » by TheShow2021 » Mon Oct 6, 2025 11:22 am

Nash
Curry
Ray Allen
Bird
Jokic

I think Bird could easily evolve to an efficient high volume 3 point shooter in this era.

Alternate (Hard to predict): I think a Jokic / Wilt or Wemby pick and roll with 3 elite shooters could be unstoppable
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Re: Create the greatest offense of all time 

Post#63 » by Daddy 801 » Mon Oct 6, 2025 11:59 am

I misread the original post as fastest paced high offense which I meant to be a team that gets steals and plays fast plus I wanted to make them also
good at defense. If it’s just best starting five and we’re only worried about the offense with no concern for defense I would go…..

Steph, Jordan, KD, Lebron, Joker.
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Post#64 » by Haldi » Mon Oct 6, 2025 12:09 pm

Steph
Harden
KD
Lebron
Jokic

Everyone here can do everything, and is amazingly efficient at everything. There isn’t a single weakness where a guy gets the ball in a spot and is wide open, but hey, he only shoots like 22% from that spot. All of these guys except KD are also some of the best/the best passers and playmakers we’ve ever seen in the sport.
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Post#65 » by EmpireFalls » Mon Oct 6, 2025 12:55 pm

It’s gonna have Steph Jordan LeBron Jokic in it

And then I’m really caught between KD Bird and Magic. I could make equally good cases for all 3.
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Re: Create the greatest offense of all time 

Post#66 » by MMyhre » Mon Oct 6, 2025 1:01 pm

Curry Jordan LeBron Durant Jokic
Spacing, fastbreaks, free throws, rim pressure, passing skill, positional flexibility, efficiency etc..
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Post#67 » by prophet_of_rage » Mon Oct 6, 2025 1:29 pm

No ball stoppers allowed.

PG -- Steph deadly off the ball and constantly moves
SG -- Ray Allen coming off screens, stampeding the catch, attacking off a mismatch
SF -- Lebron James ... orchestrating the offence from the top
PF -- Michael Beasley ... Basically the go get a bucket dog but the guy who will accept being 5th in the offensive pecking order and still mismatch hell or a bucket if you double off him. If paychology isn't a problem then replace with KD.
C -- Nikola Jokic ... rollman, passer, perimeter threat and post up threat

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Post#68 » by Ol Roy » Mon Oct 6, 2025 7:07 pm

Here's a lineup using players from the Dream Team.

PG: Magic Johnson. For the quarterbacking role, I like his size/strength advantage over Nash and his speed advantage over Jokic. He's going to get the ball where it needs to go. Pretty fundamentally sound shooter, and I think he'd utilize that more today.

SG: Michael Jordan. Capable of being a great facilitator in his own right, but perhaps even more deadly as an off-ball scorer. Incredible rim pressure and midrange efficiency. He shot threes well when he increased his volume, I'd expect more of that from him.

SF: Chris Mullin. A smaller version of Larry Bird, see: Larry Bird.

PF: Larry Bird. Great all-around shooter and great connective passer. Works intuitively off ball. Does the little things to grease the wheels on offense.

C: David Robinson. Elite finisher and foul drawer. Generates his own rim pressure off the dribble. Very good passer and solid midrange ability. Can set great screens and runs the floor like a deer.
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Post#69 » by CodeBreaker » Tue Oct 7, 2025 5:16 am

Curry
Jordan
Bird
Durant
Jokic
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Post#70 » by CodeBreaker » Tue Oct 7, 2025 5:17 am

Haldi wrote:Steph
Harden
KD
Lebron
Jokic

Everyone here can do everything, and is amazingly efficient at everything. There isn’t a single weakness where a guy gets the ball in a spot and is wide open, but hey, he only shoots like 22% from that spot. All of these guys except KD are also some of the best/the best passers and playmakers we’ve ever seen in the sport.

Harden ain't doing sht without the ball in his hands.
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Post#71 » by SpreeS » Tue Oct 7, 2025 5:55 am

Curry
Miller (Allen/Klay)
Jordan
Lebron
Jokic

or

Curry
Jordan
Lebron
Bird
O'Neal

For all time squads don't need real PG or ballhog (Magic/Nash/Paul/Doncic/Harden)
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Re: Create the greatest offense of all time 

Post#72 » by Matt15 » Tue Oct 7, 2025 7:05 am

G-Stephen Curry
G-Michael Jordan
F-Lebron James
F-Larry Bird
C-Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
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Re: Create the greatest offense of all time 

Post#73 » by Daddy 801 » Tue Oct 7, 2025 7:34 am

Looking through everyone’s list and thinking about it compared to mine the only players I think I would possibly switch out were Bird for Durant and Shaq for Joker. Looking up the stats and thinking about fit I feel pretty confident keeping Joker over Shaq but the head to head comparison of Bird vs Durant I think Bird wins out. So I’m changing mine to

Steph, Jordan, LeBron, Bird, Joker.

The extra passing of Bird is going to really open up the team to even more dynamic play. LeBron, Bird, and Joker handling the ball with the greatest shooter ever and Jordan the best scorer ever….I don’t see how you beat that. They can play fast if needed with Jordan, LeBron, and Steph running the floor on fast breaks with Bird and Joker handing out full court passes, and once it slows down you can play 5 out with Jordan having an open lane to the hoop at will. How do you stop that?? If an opposing team plays a drop big it will eventually leave Steph open or a guy trying to stop LeBron and Jordan attacking the rim. No way that’s being stopped. The best defensive players are not better than the best offensive players. Too much firepower.

Only chance of beating that team is having Shaq on the other team and his two point field goal percentage is so high and the opposing team has an off night of shooting. I wouldn’t count on a combination of Steph, Jordan, LeBron, Bird, and Joker having too many collective off nights when it comes to shooting.
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Re: Create the greatest offense of all time 

Post#74 » by DCasey91 » Tue Oct 7, 2025 10:39 am

2016 Steph
1991 Micheal Jordan
Finals MVP 2014/2015 Kawhi
2013 LeBron
2025 Jokic

Just way too many potential attacks and decoys sets to cover, still get 10+ c&s. I dont actually like KD for best all time because I want the majority of ball in better decision makers hands. Very strong on the boards too

They've all played with a version of others at their most succesful point only this time it's hyper upgraded

Murray into Steph
Green into LeBron
Paxson into Steph (Yes you can go check Paxson to Jordan or Jordan to Pax was straight best offense in NBA)
Pippen into LeBron
Wade into Jordan

The offense is just too streamlined.
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Re: Create the greatest offense of all time 

Post#75 » by Haldi » Tue Oct 7, 2025 9:40 pm

CodeBreaker wrote:
Haldi wrote:Steph
Harden
KD
Lebron
Jokic

Everyone here can do everything, and is amazingly efficient at everything. There isn’t a single weakness where a guy gets the ball in a spot and is wide open, but hey, he only shoots like 22% from that spot. All of these guys except KD are also some of the best/the best passers and playmakers we’ve ever seen in the sport.

Harden ain't doing sht without the ball in his hands.


Harden is running your offense, as he always does. Steph is playing your 2 guard. I guess I should’ve switched them around to not confuse. Harden/Jokic pick n roll is gonna pick apart any defense. Harden is a great catch and shoot shooter as well but we barely ever see it so most people that don’t really watch games thinks he can’t. He’s not gonna be running around screens like Steph though, if that’s what you meant then you’re right

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