Javale McGee dominating the Australian league

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Re: Javale McGee dominating the Australian league 

Post#61 » by Loneshot » Sat Oct 4, 2025 2:50 pm

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LuDux1 wrote:Meanwhile/week ago, in Lithuania, Cam Reddish went 9-4-4 and 3/12 FG against Zalgiris (that just won In Monaco against Spanoulis/Mirotic/Theis/Mike James)

Never understood how the guy got a rep as a shooter. Didn't shoot in college, didn't shoot in the NBA and it seems to have followed him to Lithuania.

His shot "looks good", he got a rep from looking like a shooter, not from actually making shots at a high level.


That's crazy. Whoever advised drafting him based on that eye test should be never be consulted with again about basketball.
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Re: Javale McGee dominating the Australian league 

Post#62 » by Mirotic12 » Sat Oct 4, 2025 5:17 pm

durden_tyler wrote:People tend to underrate NBA scrubs (not really an insult, just that you are one of the worst players in the best basketball league in the world)
and people tend to overrate other leagues (nothing is really at the level of the NBA and these lower tier leagues are good developmental leagues in their own right but quality is just not there most times)


Really strange how so many NBA players are busts in Europe. If the worst player in the NBA is better than any player in any other league, it shouldn't be possible for so many NBA players to be bad players in Europe. Yet, it happens all the time. Odd.
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Re: Javale McGee dominating the Australian league 

Post#63 » by GrindCityHustle » Sat Oct 4, 2025 5:24 pm

He actually helped the Lakers win that bubble title and some with the Warriors but Shaq hates him for some reason so there's that. He got to Dallas and somehow must have been injured as he did nothing for them.

He was never great but came on late in his career like a Tyson Chandler where he figured out how to make a team impact. He is probably a smarter player than people realize so I am not surprised he is doing good overseas. I thought he was retired honestly though.
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Re: Javale McGee dominating the Australian league 

Post#64 » by Blame Rasho » Sat Oct 4, 2025 6:50 pm

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durden_tyler wrote:People tend to underrate NBA scrubs (not really an insult, just that you are one of the worst players in the best basketball league in the world)
and people tend to overrate other leagues (nothing is really at the level of the NBA and these lower tier leagues are good developmental leagues in their own right but quality is just not there most times)


Really strange how so many NBA players are busts in Europe. If the worst player in the NBA is better than any player in any other league, it shouldn't be possible for so many NBA players to be bad players in Europe. Yet, it happens all the time. Odd.


Not really when you realize that most NBA players that go over there go when they are out of their prime after they have already made it in the best league in the world.

What isn’t strange is that there are guys who suck in the NBA but are stars in Europe… esp since they miss their mommy. Guys who get cut from so many nba teams become MVP in a 5000 person arena.
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Re: Javale McGee dominating the Australian league 

Post#65 » by Mirotic12 » Sat Oct 4, 2025 7:18 pm

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durden_tyler wrote:People tend to underrate NBA scrubs (not really an insult, just that you are one of the worst players in the best basketball league in the world)
and people tend to overrate other leagues (nothing is really at the level of the NBA and these lower tier leagues are good developmental leagues in their own right but quality is just not there most times)


Really strange how so many NBA players are busts in Europe. If the worst player in the NBA is better than any player in any other league, it shouldn't be possible for so many NBA players to be bad players in Europe. Yet, it happens all the time. Odd.


Not really when you realize that most NBA players that go over there go when they are out of their prime after they have already made it in the best league in the world.


Not really. Many are in their primes and are busts.

And NBA players that are washed up don't really have much of a market in Europe. They go to Puerto Rico, China, Indonesia, Philippines, and more recently Australia.

They pretty much aren't even looked at by teams in Europe.
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Re: Javale McGee dominating the Australian league 

Post#66 » by Blame Rasho » Sat Oct 4, 2025 7:52 pm

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Really strange how so many NBA players are busts in Europe. If the worst player in the NBA is better than any player in any other league, it shouldn't be possible for so many NBA players to be bad players in Europe. Yet, it happens all the time. Odd.


Not really when you realize that most NBA players that go over there go when they are out of their prime after they have already made it in the best league in the world.


Not really. Many are in their primes and are busts.

And NBA players that are washed up don't have a market in Europe. They go to Puerto Rico, China, Indonesia, Philippines, more recently Australia.

They pretty much aren't even looked at by teams in Europe.


Do tell who are these great nba players in their prime who go to Europe who are busts…

I would love to laugh at you.
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Re: Javale McGee dominating the Australian league 

Post#67 » by og15 » Sat Oct 4, 2025 8:47 pm

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Bad Bart wrote:Never understood how the guy got a rep as a shooter. Didn't shoot in college, didn't shoot in the NBA and it seems to have followed him to Lithuania.

His shot "looks good", he got a rep from looking like a shooter, not from actually making shots at a high level.


That's crazy. Whoever advised drafting him based on that eye test should be never be consulted with again about basketball.

Yea, some guys look good with form and also make shots well in drills, but since he only had one college season, he could get the excuse of it being a bad/outlier year.

I wouldn't love that excuse personally for a 6'8 guy shooting 36/33 in college, but that's me. He definitely got a pass on his shooting numbers due to shot selection and got a boost for athleticism, physical tools, competing on defense and having some versatile skills. So one could justify improvement potential since they would say, "form is good just has to work on consistency and shot selection" kind of stuff.
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Re: Javale McGee dominating the Australian league 

Post#68 » by sisibilio » Sun Oct 5, 2025 1:14 am

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LuDux1 wrote:Meanwhile/week ago, in Lithuania, Cam Reddish went 9-4-4 and 3/12 FG against Zalgiris (that just won In Monaco against Spanoulis/Mirotic/Theis/Mike James)


Probably one of most overrated nba prospects in terms of actual production vs expetations.

He sucked at college. Got drafted 10th.
He sucked as a rookie. Got promoted into starter.
Than he got even worst in second year.

Guy has pretty face, probably should have been actor that plays pro athletes in movies. ( like Juancho Hernangómez, who is bench warmer in Panathinaikos)

it is kind a fascinating how much time nba teams waste on terrible "prospects". My Magic wasted half of a decade on Fultz :banghead:

Hernangómez was a key player in Panathinaikoslast season.
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Re: Javale McGee dominating the Australian league 

Post#69 » by sisibilio » Sun Oct 5, 2025 1:18 am

pepe1991 wrote:
NO-KG-AI wrote:
TheCage4 wrote:McGee didn't have the mental fortitude to make it in the NBA. I believe there was a story where his mom contacted Shaq and asked him to stop making fun of her son :lol:


He made it in the NBA though. Had a very long, lucrative career. Contributor to 3 NBA title teams.


His career would still probably look lot different if he wasn't on that sorry Wizards with Nick Young, without any vet mentorship with some of biggest clowns nba has ever seen.

Arenas, rookie McGee, Andrey Blatche, Nick Young and Antonio Daniels on same team ? :D

He was Shaqtin' a fool mascot for a reason.
From running transition on defense while his team still had possession, being upset on own taemmates because he was chasing triple double while down like 40 points , him and Nick Young almost choking to death in youtube challenge ( eating spoon of cinnamon ).

In same time, his athletic profile was just out of this world. One of most athletic, agile bigs i have ever watched. I will forever remember that Nuggets vs Lakers series in 2012, his rim protection was elite, and that was probably moment when league & fans changed their mind about him.

Peak shaqtin was when he went for the FT line dunk with a guy in front of him.
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Re: Javale McGee dominating the Australian league 

Post#70 » by Mirotic12 » Sun Oct 5, 2025 3:03 pm

sisibilio wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
LuDux1 wrote:Meanwhile/week ago, in Lithuania, Cam Reddish went 9-4-4 and 3/12 FG against Zalgiris (that just won In Monaco against Spanoulis/Mirotic/Theis/Mike James)


Probably one of most overrated nba prospects in terms of actual production vs expetations.

He sucked at college. Got drafted 10th.
He sucked as a rookie. Got promoted into starter.
Than he got even worst in second year.

Guy has pretty face, probably should have been actor that plays pro athletes in movies. ( like Juancho Hernangómez, who is bench warmer in Panathinaikos)

it is kind a fascinating how much time nba teams waste on terrible "prospects". My Magic wasted half of a decade on Fultz :banghead:

Hernangómez was a key player in Panathinaikoslast season.


Not really. He's a guy Panathinaikos fans like to promote because he's a favorite of the ownership. So he will be pushed by the fans no matter what (Dimitris Diamantidis was the perfect example of that - although he was way better than Juancho is).

In reality, Juancho is a defensive specialist that doesn't quite make it to the level of a 3 and D player, since his ability to knock down open 3s off the ball is extremely inconsistent.

In EuroLeague, Juancho is basically a poor man's version of Antonis Fotsis, or even maybe a homeless man's version of Fotsis, if we compare him to peak Fotsis.

Alex Samodurov would be in college if he was American, and it's clear that he's already a much more talented and skilled power foward than Junacho is. So Juancho isn't even really the best player at his own position, on Panathinaikos.
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Re: Javale McGee dominating the Australian league 

Post#71 » by Blame Rasho » Sun Oct 5, 2025 9:51 pm

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Mirotic12 wrote:
Blame Rasho wrote:
Not really when you realize that most NBA players that go over there go when they are out of their prime after they have already made it in the best league in the world.


Not really. Many are in their primes and are busts.

And NBA players that are washed up don't have a market in Europe. They go to Puerto Rico, China, Indonesia, Philippines, more recently Australia.

They pretty much aren't even looked at by teams in Europe.


Do tell who are these great nba players in their prime who go to Europe who are busts…

I would love to laugh at you.


So I am still waiting… and it is cute that you cut off my quote by the way.

Hahaha.

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