Is LeBron really about to play two more seasons?

[michaelm]

Surely you didn't forget he joined a 73 win team that had already won a championship with it's core and barely missed winning a second?

Trashing KD gets old.
It's odd that you think Golden State wins two titles without KD. He also won FMVP both times.

Drafted by Seattle, invest in the community, charity work, buys a house, and is forced to move to OKC. He eventually gets his freedom to leave and he helped the Warriors to be even more successful.

Sure, it was KD and the Warriors right to join up and it's our right as fans to never forgive them.

I have no love for OKC and what Clay Bennett did to Seattle, but that's a different issue.

LeBron started an arms race without a SALT agreement in place, and had already bombed KD’s fledgling OKC team. Tough for him and his fans if they were unhappy with the response.

You are perhaps in a position to have an informed opinion about the taste of sour grapes though, something which we GSW fans are largely unfamiliar.

[makubesu]

I support Bron playing on as many max contracts as possible, the man has earned a lot of money for a lot of billionaires. But I think this is the last year, players just hate the rehab process.

[NbaAllDay]

This is strange because for most of his career it was pretty much universally accepted his game was boring. Now in the closing years people are trying to rewrite history and argue he was entertaining to watch lol. Insufferable man. Tick tock the clock is ticking.

Can you point to where the vast majority of people said this? Was this a thread created or your own head cannon?

There is also a difference between having a boring game, and having a game that isn't as aesthetically pleasing as someone else. Most of the 'people' you are likely referencing are those who directly compare him to MJ or Kobe. The stereotypical elite 2 Guard with footwork and a 'clean jumper' basically dominated a 20 year stretch of being the most aesthetically pleasing players to watch. Those 2 just did it better/as well as anyone else and had personalities people were drawn too.

You are welcome to find his game boring, you would find millions that would say otherwise and it's a pretty narrow take.

[michaelm]

This is strange because for most of his career it was pretty much universally accepted his game was boring. Now in the closing years people are trying to rewrite history and argue he was entertaining to watch lol. Insufferable man. Tick tock the clock is ticking.

Can you point to where the vast majority of people said this? Was this a thread created or your own head cannon?

There is also a difference between having a boring game, and having a game that isn't as aesthetically pleasing as someone else. Most of the 'people' you are likely referencing are those who directly compare him to MJ or Kobe. The stereotypical elite 2 Guard with footwork and a 'clean jumper' basically dominated a 20 year stretch of being the most aesthetically pleasing players to watch. Those 2 just did it better/as well as anyone else and had personalities people were drawn too.

You are welcome to find his game boring, you would find millions that would say otherwise and it's a pretty narrow take.

Exactly. It is a matter of aesthetics. I personally prefer a more ensemble game style, but the effectiveness of LeBron ball is completely undeniable.

[hauntedcomputer]

I can see him playing five more years easily if he wants to. He'd be way better than Vince Carter's long slow cling to a roster. He could play power forward and just shoot threes, or fill up a dunker spot.

The things that could stop him are the vanity of averaging single digits or needing to move into ownership. He can still make more money playing than not.

And don't worry, this egomaniac who put a crown on his own head will let us know THREE YEARS AHEAD OF TIME so he can get an endless retirement tour, then as I have said before, he will continue to hog the end-of-season ESPN talkies with "Will the King RETURN?!?!?" for another five seasons after that. ("The Decision 8.0")

We a long way from done.

[Optms]

We won't ever see a player at this age playing at this level. Ever. I just hope he can leave on his own terms and not due to an injury.

[BlzMwt]

LeBron is definitely the most boring MVP-winner I've ever seen. Its amazing he's played this long and still hasn't come up with a move yet. Or his fans tell me the "spin move" is his, but that's something even an uncoordinated novice can do... we all learn that move literally the first year we play organized basketball.

This feels like a comment that would have been a bad take in 2008.

Scoring points doesn't automatically make you entertaining.
I'm surprised I have to tell you this, everybody knows it...
Every sport has a boring player.

I never said that scoring points made him or anyone else exciting.

If with access to the internet and especially YouTube, you don't find LeBron exciting - I honestly don't think you're a legitimate basketball fan.

20+ years of any kind of highlight play or game you could imagine.

There's a difference between not liking him and not finding him exciting.

[bonita_the_frog]

This feels like a comment that would have been a bad take in 2008.

Scoring points doesn't automatically make you entertaining.
I'm surprised I have to tell you this, everybody knows it...
Every sport has a boring player.

I never said that scoring points made him or anyone else exciting.

If with access to the internet and especially YouTube, you don't find LeBron exciting - I honestly don't think you're a legitimate basketball fan.

20+ years of any kind of highlight play or game you could imagine.

There's a difference between not liking him and not finding him exciting.

Well I only like entertaining players.

Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, are entertaining.
LeBron just lacks their creativity, and their grace.

And there are other qualities that make a player entertaining, for example Giannis is not creative or graceful, but he's unique.
Whereas LeBron, is like a bland version of Magic Johnson.
LeBron is more of a dunker than Magic Johnson, but Magic Johnson is entertaining on the perimeter and in the post and in transition.

Even today's players are a lot more entertaining than LeBron, for example just of the high-scoring players I find these more entertaining than LeBron: Edwards, Durant, Giannis, Jokic, Curry, Mitchell, Booker.
And Booker isn't even a player I'd bother watching, but he's entertaining to a degree.

[JonFromVA]

Trashing KD gets old.
It's odd that you think Golden State wins two titles without KD. He also won FMVP both times.

Drafted by Seattle, invest in the community, charity work, buys a house, and is forced to move to OKC. He eventually gets his freedom to leave and he helped the Warriors to be even more successful.

Sure, it was KD and the Warriors right to join up and it's our right as fans to never forgive them.

I have no love for OKC and what Clay Bennett did to Seattle, but that's a different issue.

LeBron started an arms race without a SALT agreement in place, and had already bombed KD’s fledgling OKC team. Tough for him and his fans if they were unhappy with the response.

You are perhaps in a position to have an informed opinion about the taste of sour grapes though, something which we GSW fans are largely unfamiliar.

I'm certainly fine with ripping LeBron for running off to Miami, by all means say what you will; but he didn't join a team that would have won a second title in a row if not for you know that minor miracle which wrecked what would have otherwise been held up as the greatest season ever.

[JonFromVA]

Scoring points doesn't automatically make you entertaining.
I'm surprised I have to tell you this, everybody knows it...
Every sport has a boring player.

I never said that scoring points made him or anyone else exciting.

If with access to the internet and especially YouTube, you don't find LeBron exciting - I honestly don't think you're a legitimate basketball fan.

20+ years of any kind of highlight play or game you could imagine.

There's a difference between not liking him and not finding him exciting.

Well I only like entertaining players.

Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, are entertaining.
LeBron just lacks their creativity, and their grace.

And there are other qualities that make a player entertaining, for example Giannis is not creative or graceful, but he's unique.
Whereas LeBron, is like a bland version of Magic Johnson.
LeBron is more of a dunker than Magic Johnson, but Magic Johnson is entertaining on the perimeter and in the post and in transition.

Even today's players are a lot more entertaining than LeBron, for example just of the high-scoring players I find these more entertaining than LeBron: Edwards, Durant, Giannis, Jokic, Curry, Mitchell, Booker.
And Booker isn't even a player I'd bother watching, but he's entertaining to a degree.

Oh, LeBron was very much a one of one player that was constantly making jaw dropping plays on both ends of the floor with both his talent and his BBIQ; but he was often methodical and repetitive in how he dissected defenses and you're certainly free to like what you like.

[bonita_the_frog]

I never said that scoring points made him or anyone else exciting.

If with access to the internet and especially YouTube, you don't find LeBron exciting - I honestly don't think you're a legitimate basketball fan.

20+ years of any kind of highlight play or game you could imagine.

There's a difference between not liking him and not finding him exciting.

Well I only like entertaining players.

Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, are entertaining.
LeBron just lacks their creativity, and their grace.

And there are other qualities that make a player entertaining, for example Giannis is not creative or graceful, but he's unique.
Whereas LeBron, is like a bland version of Magic Johnson.
LeBron is more of a dunker than Magic Johnson, but Magic Johnson is entertaining on the perimeter and in the post and in transition.

Even today's players are a lot more entertaining than LeBron, for example just of the high-scoring players I find these more entertaining than LeBron: Edwards, Durant, Giannis, Jokic, Curry, Mitchell, Booker.
And Booker isn't even a player I'd bother watching, but he's entertaining to a degree.

Oh, LeBron was very much a one of one player that was constantly making jaw dropping plays on both ends of the floor with both his talent and his BBIQ; but he was often methodical and repetitive in how he dissected defenses and you're certainly free to like what you like.

Well LeBron is a very boring passer compared to Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird and a very long list after that too.
LeBron is closer to John Stockton's passing, than he is to Magic Johnson's passing.

Nobody's questioning LeBron's IQ, just his entertainment value.
Even LeBron's shooting motion is boring... dribbling too.

Whereas there are some players so entertaining that even their posture or way of holding the ball in their hand is aesthetically pleasing.
Kobe Bryant and Chris Mullin, for example, were entertaining with even the most minor of movements.

[Ito]

I think he gon over do it and retire in a year that he already started playing which would prolly be the worse way to do it retiring mid season type shyt .. I mean the obvious way to do it would be to play a season or two or he should just get the feeling through the season and call it quits at the end of it and it’s LeBron it’s not like he’s going to be going through a slump and know it’s time to quit how many slumps has he even had during his career

[PistolPeteJR]

Well I only like entertaining players.

Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, are entertaining.
LeBron just lacks their creativity, and their grace.

And there are other qualities that make a player entertaining, for example Giannis is not creative or graceful, but he's unique.
Whereas LeBron, is like a bland version of Magic Johnson.
LeBron is more of a dunker than Magic Johnson, but Magic Johnson is entertaining on the perimeter and in the post and in transition.

Even today's players are a lot more entertaining than LeBron, for example just of the high-scoring players I find these more entertaining than LeBron: Edwards, Durant, Giannis, Jokic, Curry, Mitchell, Booker.
And Booker isn't even a player I'd bother watching, but he's entertaining to a degree.

Oh, LeBron was very much a one of one player that was constantly making jaw dropping plays on both ends of the floor with both his talent and his BBIQ; but he was often methodical and repetitive in how he dissected defenses and you're certainly free to like what you like.

Well LeBron is a very boring passer compared to Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird and a very long list after that too.
LeBron is closer to John Stockton's passing, than he is to Magic Johnson's passing.

Nobody's questioning LeBron's IQ, just his entertainment value.
Even LeBron's shooting motion is boring... dribbling too.

Whereas there are some players so entertaining that even their posture or way of holding the ball in their hand is aesthetically pleasing.
Kobe Bryant and Chris Mullin, for example, were entertaining with even the most minor of movements.

Now this is one I haven’t heard before in the LeBron vs Jordan debate. Keep trolling lol.

[ciueli]

I’m sure he’s planning on playing at least one more season after this one right now, but I think this sciatica is going to be more debilitating than he thinks, both in terms of declining performance after a rough season last year, and in terms of just how it makes his body feel. I would guess some time between now and the end of the season, he’ll decide that this is enough.

Yep, unless he's just making this up so he can appease the league and the TV networks.

Sciatica itself is a mystery diagnosis of leg pain that typically turns in to a diagnosis of a spinal injury (such as a herniated disc) once tests are run.

If that's what it is, he can play through the pain, but then is continuing to play still fun / worth the bother / risks of more damage?

Yeah, not enough people are talking about his Sciatica, if it's severe it's actually possible that he's already played his final real season in 2024-25. There's always the possibility he's faking or exaggerating it in some way just to force a trade in the wake of the new Lakers ownership and willingness to move on from him, but if he isn't there's a serious chance he never plays this season and ends up retiring, especially if the Lakers struggle most of the regular season and aren't in position to make the playoffs.

[bonita_the_frog]

Oh, LeBron was very much a one of one player that was constantly making jaw dropping plays on both ends of the floor with both his talent and his BBIQ; but he was often methodical and repetitive in how he dissected defenses and you're certainly free to like what you like.

Well LeBron is a very boring passer compared to Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird and a very long list after that too.
LeBron is closer to John Stockton's passing, than he is to Magic Johnson's passing.

Nobody's questioning LeBron's IQ, just his entertainment value.
Even LeBron's shooting motion is boring... dribbling too.

Whereas there are some players so entertaining that even their posture or way of holding the ball in their hand is aesthetically pleasing.
Kobe Bryant and Chris Mullin, for example, were entertaining with even the most minor of movements.

Now this is one I haven’t heard before in the LeBron vs Jordan debate. Keep trolling lol.

Jordan's big hands made him one of the most entertaining passers of all-time.
I guess you never saw Jordan play, other than scoring highlights...
Everything Jordan did was graceful and creative, and his passing was full of deception.
I don't need to troll, because I watch basketball, and at home we have hundreds of Jordan games...

[Roscoe Sheed]

I think he should make this his final year as the nagging injuries are very likely to increase with age. He still plays at a high level, but as the chronic injuries continue to creep up it will limit his availability and effectiveness

[JinKaz69]

Well LeBron is a very boring passer compared to Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird and a very long list after that too.
LeBron is closer to John Stockton's passing, than he is to Magic Johnson's passing.

Nobody's questioning LeBron's IQ, just his entertainment value.
Even LeBron's shooting motion is boring... dribbling too.

Whereas there are some players so entertaining that even their posture or way of holding the ball in their hand is aesthetically pleasing.
Kobe Bryant and Chris Mullin, for example, were entertaining with even the most minor of movements.

Now this is one I haven’t heard before in the LeBron vs Jordan debate. Keep trolling lol.

Jordan's big hands made him one of the most entertaining passers of all-time.
I guess you never saw Jordan play, other than scoring highlights...
Everything Jordan did was graceful and creative, and his passing was full of deception.
I don't need to troll, because I watch basketball, and at home we have hundreds of Jordan games...

Jordan's passing ability is criminaly underrated.
Here is a good video showing Jordan's passing skills :

Watch on YouTube

I can't count how many times he feeded Grant for an easy lay-up.
Big hands + hang time + quick vision + laser passing and a bit of no look made him a very creative passer.

Also people should not forget that when he played as a point guard and was the primary ballhandler for a short stretch he put huge numbers during 89 season.

He could absolutely fill the LeBron role if needed.

[vagelis]

Lebron James was always a fast tank but he was a straight line player.
He never did fancy dribbles because he has not the direction change.

He is a sf and not a pf but his game has some similarities with Karl Malone imo(fast strong guys who run in open court) but Lebron is better and has some guard skills in addition.

Jordan was always more pleasant to watch.

[infinite11285]

Well LeBron is a very boring passer compared to Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird and a very long list after that too.
LeBron is closer to John Stockton's passing, than he is to Magic Johnson's passing.

Nobody's questioning LeBron's IQ, just his entertainment value.
Even LeBron's shooting motion is boring... dribbling too.

Whereas there are some players so entertaining that even their posture or way of holding the ball in their hand is aesthetically pleasing.
Kobe Bryant and Chris Mullin, for example, were entertaining with even the most minor of movements.

Now this is one I haven’t heard before in the LeBron vs Jordan debate. Keep trolling lol.

Jordan's big hands made him one of the most entertaining passers of all-time.
I guess you never saw Jordan play, other than scoring highlights...
Everything Jordan did was graceful and creative, and his passing was full of deception.
I don't need to troll, because I watch basketball, and at home we have hundreds of Jordan games...

This is the kind of comment that sounds like normal basketball talk at first but ends up feeling more like low-key trolling. It’s not just saying Jordan or Magic were flashier — it’s written to provoke anyone who likes LeBron.

Calling LeBron a “boring passer” or saying even his shooting motion is boring isn’t real analysis — it’s just meant to get a rise out of people. You can prefer Jordan’s or Magic’s style without pretending LeBron’s passing is somehow dull. The guy’s one of the best in history at reading defenses and creating looks nobody else sees.

And the whole “I don’t need to troll, I just watch basketball” thing from before pretty much gives it away — it’s that passive-aggressive “I know more than you” tone. It’s not about the game anymore, it’s about flexing taste and authority.

So yeah, it’s classic disguised trolling: opinion mixed with ego, designed to look insightful but really just baiting people into arguing. It’s the reason you're on your 5th or 6th account.

[JujitsuFlip]

I support Bron playing on as many max contracts as possible, the man has earned a lot of money for a lot of billionaires. But I think this is the last year, players just hate the rehab process.

He himself is now a billionaire lol