Fellow Mavs fans, why not tank?

[Bob8]

It can't be that the man who coached the team into WCF in 22 and Finals in 24 is now a bad coach, the problem is the roster, not the coach.
Not Kidd's biggest fan, but he's not the problem.

He never coached much, he accidentally had the best half court player in his roster. Now he should develop some kind of a system, plays, which he can't. You can't play with this roster like you played with Luka's.

The best half court player didn't take a roster of Brunson/Bullock/Luka/DFS/Powell and bench of Kleber and Dinwiddie to 6th best defense in the league, and when he got the right personnel in 24 he had the best defense.
Kidd has proven 2 things in his time in Dallas, with the right pieces he can overperform, and with the wrong pieces he can underperform, sometimes out of spite.
Yes, Luka covered a lot of Kidd's offensive limitations, but Kidd rewarded him with being able to build elite defenses around him.

Yes, Kidd's D was always solid, but D isn't a problem this year either, offense is. Mavs roster is not that bad to have 29th offense in the league.

[Mavrelous]

He never coached much, he accidentally had the best half court player in his roster. Now he should develop some kind of a system, plays, which he can't. You can't play with this roster like you played with Luka's.

The best half court player didn't take a roster of Brunson/Bullock/Luka/DFS/Powell and bench of Kleber and Dinwiddie to 6th best defense in the league, and when he got the right personnel in 24 he had the best defense.
Kidd has proven 2 things in his time in Dallas, with the right pieces he can overperform, and with the wrong pieces he can underperform, sometimes out of spite.
Yes, Luka covered a lot of Kidd's offensive limitations, but Kidd rewarded him with being able to build elite defenses around him.

You're talking about 2 games sample size. And he basically had a a smaller Luka clone in Brunson then.

Yes, Kidd's D were always solid, but D isn't a problem this year, offense is. Mavs roster is not that bad to have 29th offense in the league.

What 2 games sample? I'm talking about the 22 and 24 seasons...

[Bob8]

The best half court player didn't take a roster of Brunson/Bullock/Luka/DFS/Powell and bench of Kleber and Dinwiddie to 6th best defense in the league, and when he got the right personnel in 24 he had the best defense.
Kidd has proven 2 things in his time in Dallas, with the right pieces he can overperform, and with the wrong pieces he can underperform, sometimes out of spite.
Yes, Luka covered a lot of Kidd's offensive limitations, but Kidd rewarded him with being able to build elite defenses around him.

You're talking about 2 games sample size. And he basically had a a smaller Luka clone in Brunson then.

Yes, Kidd's D were always solid, but D isn't a problem this year, offense is. Mavs roster is not that bad to have 29th offense in the league.

What 2 games sample? I'm talking about the 22 and 24 seasons...

I edited my response. I read to quickly and believed you're talking about playoffs series against Utah.

[TheAlchemist]

Best to pretend to compete and then flip players.

At the deadline AD, some of the Center/ power forwards , Klay, will be looking really good to other teams. Straight out tanking right now might not be good.

[Mavrelous]

You're talking about 2 games sample size. And he basically had a a smaller Luka clone in Brunson then.

Yes, Kidd's D were always solid, but D isn't a problem this year, offense is. Mavs roster is not that bad to have 29th offense in the league.

What 2 games sample? I'm talking about the 22 and 24 seasons...

I edited my response. I read to quickly and believed you're talking about playoffs series against Utah.

Well, he's being forced to play DLo to run the offense and he's clearly reluctant, I wouldn't blame him, JJ Reddick last year was also driven crazy by DLo despite having similarly great on/off, if 2 coaches are giving up on you, then there is probably a problem with you.
The roster has no guards and Klay is having the worst stretch of his career, this roster was setup to fail, the problem is in the one with the "vision".

[Bob8]

What 2 games sample? I'm talking about the 22 and 24 seasons...

I edited my response. I read to quickly and believed you're talking about playoffs series against Utah.

Well, he's being forced to play DLo to run the offense and he's clearly reluctant, I wouldn't blame him, JJ Reddick last year was also driven crazy by DLo despite having similarly great on/off, if 2 coaches are giving up on you, then there is probably a problem with you.
The roster has no guards and Klay is having the worst stretch of his career, this roster was setup to fail, the problem is in the one with the "vision".

One thing is not being competitive against the best teams. Roster is constructed wrong to do that. That's Nico's fault. Something completely different is to have one of the worst offenses in the league. That's on Kidd. Kidd just signed long extension so he should be in line with Nico's plan.

Nobody is saying that Dlo is great, but he's obviously a lot better than playing without Pg. Not only his on/off is great, his +/- is + 13.4. His worst +/- was against Spurs -4, in every other game lineups with him were positive. Flagg on the other hand had only in 1 game positive +/-. That tells you that Kidd's is using wrong lineups, maybe because his trolling Nico or whatever. And even, if you decide to play without Pg, you still can play some plays, which make life easier for your players.

Saying that your coach is not guilty for his team being awful in offense is bizarre. We're not talking about tanking team here.

[Wolveswin]

Mavs could accomplish both with Heat - tank trade and get Nico a star (semi star anyway).

To Heat: AD/Klay (and/or other win-now player(s))
=Nico sends vet AD+ to great spot for a trade-optics win.

To Hornets: Ware (and other potential player(s))
=Ware is worth Mavs 1st back at least.

To Mavs: Herro/Jaku/Rozier (buyout if not FBI related salary relief)/Own Mavs 2027 1st (and maybe more from Hornets)/What maybe 2x Heat 1sts (one for sure)
=Niko gets to sell fans he isn’t tanking with star-lite Herro. Herro sits however and slow slow comeback with Irving side by side. Mavs get a young develop-with-Flagg-guard in Jaku plus draft capital and what should be a pretty good 2026 1st.