Is this a travel in the NBA ?

[Nuzzo]

No, it's not a travel.
There is a travel, foul, out of bounds, basket+foul or technical foul only when the ref calls it.

[Frosty]

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This is him doing the step back move. As of right now he has just picked up his dribble and is about to land on his left foot (picking up his right foot in the process) to establish a LEFT FOOT PIVOT.

You are absolutely 100% wrong on this.

So I'll give you the left pivot foot switch. (see d bolded below

"Section XIV-Traveling
a. A player who receives the ball while standing still may pivot, using either foot as the pivot foot.
b. A player who receives the ball while he is progressing or upon completion of a dribble, may use a two-count rhythm in coming to a stop, passing or shooting the ball.
The first count occurs:
(1) As he receives the ball, if either foot is touching the floor at the time he receives it.
(2) As the foot touches the floor, or as both feet touch the floor simultane- ously after he receives the ball, if both feet are off the floor when he receives it.
The second occurs:
(1) After the count of one when either foot touches the floor, or both feet touch the floor simultaneously.
c. A player who comes to a stop on the count of one may pivot, using either foot as the pivot foot.
d. A player who comes to a stop on the count of two, with one foot in advance of the other, may pivot using only the rear foot as the pivot foot.
e. A player who comes to a stop on the count of two, with neither foot in advance of the other, may use either foot as the pivot foot.
f. In starting a dribble after (1) receiving the ball while standing still, or (2) coming to a legal stop, the ball must be out of the player's hand before the pivot foot is raised off the floor.
g. If a player, with the ball in his possession, raises his pivot foot off the floor, he must pass or shoot before his pivot foot returns to the floor. If he drops the ball while in the air, he may not be the first to touch the ball.
h. A player who falls to the floor while holding the ball, or while coming to a stop, may not gain an advantage by sliding.
i. A player who attempts a field goal may not be the first to touch the ball if it fails to touch the backboard, basket ring or another player.
PENALTY: Loss of ball. The ball is awarded to the opposing team at the sideline, nearest spot of the violation but no nearer the baseline than the foul line extended.""

Of course it's clear he didn't release the shot before his pivot foot contacted the floor again.

Travel

Thanks for making it so clear

[tracey_nice]

lol, I really can't believe some of you are trying to argue it's not a travel. I am huge Kobe fan, but that is clearly a travel; mind you I didn't catch it ,until pointed out for me, but still a TRAVEL.

[The Notic]

[quote="Frosty"

Of course it's clear he didn't release the shot before his pivot foot contacted the floor again.

Travel

Thanks for making it so clear [/quote]

Yep, the pivot hitting the floor again was what made the play a travel.

[Blame Rasho]

not even close to being a travel. that play has been replayed 1000 times on tv and no analyst has a problem with it. sheesh, the nba even uses it in its commercials for the playoffs. the nba wouldn't use a play where a player travels.

Really? Lebron's James Traveling game winner vs Washington?

[Moon Walk]

Yes it's an obvious travel, but it's Kobe, he can get away with anything.

So can Duncan with is Air Jordan dunk

[Bgil]

I think it's a travel. The NBA traveling rules are so screwed up the refs were probably too confused to make the right call.

[PPAW4Life]

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This is him doing the step back move. As of right now he has just picked up his dribble and is about to land on his left foot (picking up his right foot in the process) to establish a LEFT FOOT PIVOT.

You are absolutely 100% wrong on this.

Clearly even if you believe he stepped back then that makes his right foot the pivot foot.

He can do whatever he wants with his left foot as long as his right foot is on the ground and stationary.

[tracey_nice]

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Clearly even if you believe he stepped back then that makes his right foot the pivot foot.

He can do whatever he wants with his left foot as long as his right foot is on the ground and stationary.

wtf are you talking about?

I really didn't think a travel that has video evidence was so hard to see. His left foot was his pivot foot, he lifted his left, with-out shooting the ball........you can figure out the rest, maybe?

[PPAW4Life]

[quote="Frosty"][/quote]

Again you can do whatever you want with your feet while you're dribbling. You can even jump and land...then jump again.

Kobe stops his dribble after his last move - the jump stop/step back or whatever you want to call it. He moves his left foot first which makes his right foot the pivot foot.

He then steps forward with his left foot and jumps off both feet so it's not a travel.

The only reason it appears to be a travel is because it doesn't look natural from the camera angle from behind.

No ordinary player does this move so to the average fan it looks awkward and appears to be a travel.

From the 2nd shot - the over head camera angle you can see there is no travel... just a good fake and a step forward and shot.

[PPAW4Life]

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wtf are you talking about?

I really didn't think a travel that has video evidence was so hard to see. His left foot was his pivot foot, he lifted his left, with-out shooting the ball........you can figure out the rest, maybe?

Why do you think his left foot is the pivot foot?

[Simplicity0]

You nubes need to watch it again and carefully.

Kobe stops his dribble and fakes a shot and the first foot and only foot he moves is his left foot.

His pivot foot is always his right.

At this point I'm 100% certain you guys are picking on the refs just to be "cool".

I agree completely. The first shot has a better angle and it shows that he clearly didn't travel.

Also, lol at writerman jealous because players have better handles and footwork now.

edit- actually, I didn't see the part where he made a jump. It looks like a travel.

Isn't that perfectly allowed though? You can do that many steps provided that he takes the shot?

[tracey_nice]

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Why do you think his left foot is the pivot foot?

On his step back, you'll clearly see that his left foot lands first, hence, making it his pivot foot.

[Frosty]

As he picks up his dribble he pulls his right foot back.

[jazzfan1971]

Looks like a blatant travel to me.

Then again I learned what a travel was in 3rd grade. So my definitions are a little more simplistic that what the NBA allows.

For instance, I see guys take two steps then land on both feet, then go up for a shot. I cannot for the life of me understand how that isn't a travel.

I also can't see how this isn't a travel.

On the other hand, I constantly see guys get called for travels when making a quick move to dribble from the 3 point line. The announcers always think it's a good call, 'Got to put the ball on the floor first', but, I never see the same call for a guy who's starting his quick move from under the 3 point line. It kinda baffles me.

[tracey_nice]

^^so? frosty

[Frosty]

It's referred to as good footwork these days...

[Simplicity0]

g. If a player, with the ball in his possession, raises his pivot foot off the floor, he must pass or shoot before his pivot foot returns to the floor. If he drops the ball while in the air, he may not be the first to touch the ball.

So, I guess I was right. Completely legal. It doesn't matter if he stepped on his left foot as long as he shot it before landing back on his right.

[PPAW4Life]

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On his step back, you'll clearly see that his left foot lands first, hence, making it his pivot foot.

Yes he does step back but he is still dribbling.

His dribble stops when he puts both hands on the ball and up fakes.

At this time both his left and right foot are on the ground he has YET to establish which foot is his pivot foot.

From this point on he only moves his left foot.

It's still NOT a travel.

[Frosty]

No the dribble stops when he takes it up with his left hand, not when he brings it to both hands. He was still moving.

His rear foot would be the pivot as defined by the rules.