Semi-OT: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread V (Read Post 1 & FAQ)

OkcSinceSGA · Post #601 » by **OkcSinceSGA** » Wed Mar 25, 2020 6:10 am

Holy ****. So new max for California goes from $450 to $1050 per week??? That's an insane boost. Good for all of us.

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robbie_886 · Post #602 » by **robbie_886** » Wed Mar 25, 2020 6:17 am

Seeing those unemployment insurance numbers...It's a bad time to be self-employed. Sucks, cuz I worked my ass off in full time jobs for a lot of my life, and some of them didn't even offer medical insurance or any paid holidays - coulda used it then.

Regardless, I'm glad it will help most Americans, and ultimately the economy.

Richfield · Post #603 » by **Richfield** » Wed Mar 25, 2020 6:24 am

Are they still going to make some folks in certain sectors go back to work before the four months is up?

Triples333 · Post #604 » by **Triples333** » Wed Mar 25, 2020 6:25 am

robbie_886 wrote:
ClipsFanSince98 wrote:

Read on Twitter

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So, will people still get their $1000 checks? I am self-employed, and have seen a large decline in my business due to "shelter in place".

It is very likely to include a $1200 check to all applicable adults (those that make less than 75K a year - who will likely receive a smaller check). I have not read the bill obviously, but that is what is being reported.

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-03-24/congress-white-house-stimulus-deal-coronavirus

Triples333 · Post #605 » by **Triples333** » Wed Mar 25, 2020 6:28 am

ClipsFanSince98 wrote:

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Holy ****. So new max for California goes from $450 to $1050 per week??? That's an insane boost. Good for all of us.

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Pretty incredible stimulus package. I just hope we now come through and get testing + equipment out immediately while the vast majority of American public has little to no excuse not to stay home.

I am a bit curious whether those who are eligible to bolster their unemployment benefits by up to 2X will ALSO get the stimulus check.

OkcSinceSGA · Post #606 » by **OkcSinceSGA** » Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:50 am

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OkcSinceSGA · Post #607 » by **OkcSinceSGA** » Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:53 am

Triples333 wrote:
ClipsFanSince98 wrote:

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Holy ****. So new max for California goes from $450 to $1050 per week??? That's an insane boost. Good for all of us.

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Pretty incredible stimulus package. I just hope we now come through and get testing + equipment out immediately while the vast majority of American public has little to no excuse not to stay home.

I am a bit curious whether those who are eligible to bolster their unemployment benefits by up to 2X will ALSO get the stimulus check.

Read on Twitter

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OkcSinceSGA · Post #608 » by **OkcSinceSGA** » Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:57 am

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Not good if true, BUT if unemployment is going up like 2.5x and we can get approved, I guess it balances.

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ClapForClippers · Post #609 » by **ClapForClippers** » Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:14 am

Get ready for the transition back to normalcy starting in a week #15daySocialDistancing

AdagioPace · Post #610 » by **AdagioPace** » Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:34 am

ClapForClippers wrote:Get ready for the transition back to normalcy starting in a week #15daySocialDistancing

Unfortunately epidemies don't have an expiration date and you can't schedule them to human's benefit
#KeepFighting

basketballRob · Post #611 » by **basketballRob** » Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:57 am

ken6199 wrote:OT of OT of OT of OT:

I am working with manufacturers in China on masks, sanitizers, and ventilators. If anyone of you are in the healthcare system and your site needs those equipment, PM me. No retail or individual purchase please.

One thing I can tell you is it's getting crazy in China. The phrases I am hearing is "the world is fighting for these resources". I was just talking to a representative from a local hospital here for a quote on 1000 KN95 masks, two hours later my contact in China told me 1) that $2 unit price is not available anymore 2) the minimum order goes from 1k to 10k.

Didn't Cuomo just say NY has 5k ventilators right now and they can't get hold of another 30k in two weeks it's game over? That's pretty scary stuff. We are working on ventilator deliveries as early as April 10th...

Call Cuomo

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spacemonkey · Post #612 » by **spacemonkey** » Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:18 am

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lakers2020 · Post #613 » by **lakers2020** » Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:28 am

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-18/99-of-those-who-died-from-virus-had-other-illness-italy-says

According to article roughly 1% of c19 deaths had 0 illnesses, 25% 1 illness, 25% 2 illnesses, and 49% three illnesses.

So despite the occasional anecdotal evidence, people overwhelmingly dying from this were sick to begin with.

lakers2020 · Post #614 » by **lakers2020** » Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:43 am

A couple virus experts have gone on record that the real death rate is well below 1%,
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium.MAGAZINE-israeli-expert-trump-is-right-about-covid-19-who-is-wrong-1.8691031?v=CDBFACA5662E8174BA824BAD929EA12B
Dr. Dan Yamin puts the range between 0.3 and 0.45%

Watch on YouTube

Amesh Adalja says the upper bound is 0.6%, the minimum being a little over the seasonal flu at 0.1%. (skip to 8:25)

The theory is it is highly likely that a much greater number of people have it than are recorded as confirmed cases. Many people, (especially those below 70 and healthy) show no symptoms and will never be tested.

Wagonband · Post #615 » by **Wagonband** » Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:43 am

lakers2020 wrote:https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-18/99-of-those-who-died-from-virus-had-other-illness-italy-says

According to article roughly 1% of c19 deaths had 0 illnesses, 25% 1 illness, 25% 2 illnesses, and 49% three illnesses.

So despite the occasional anecdotal evidence, people overwhelmingly dying from this were sick to begin with.

A huge % of the population are "sick", having an illness that requires medication. You can add to that smokers and obese people, and suddenly the at risk group becomes much worse than old people.

I was just listening to a Joe Rogan podcast where he mentions Micheal Yo got it, and it was so bad where he was sure he was going to die... And he said he is a guy that's in shape and far from being a risk group.

So really guys, stay inside... The more people that are smart here, the shorter the impact of this will be

lakers2020 · Post #616 » by **lakers2020** » Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:51 am

Wagonband wrote:
lakers2020 wrote:https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-18/99-of-those-who-died-from-virus-had-other-illness-italy-says

According to article roughly 1% of c19 deaths had 0 illnesses, 25% 1 illness, 25% 2 illnesses, and 49% three illnesses.

So despite the occasional anecdotal evidence, people overwhelmingly dying from this were sick to begin with.

A huge % of the population are "sick", having an illness that requires medication. You can add to that smokers and obese people, and suddenly the at risk group becomes much worse than old people.

I was just listening to a Joe Rogan podcast where he mentions Micheal Yo got it, and it was so bad where he was sure he was going to die... And he said he is a guy that's in shape and far from being a risk group.

So really guys, stay inside... The more people that are smart here, the shorter the impact of this will be

Your source is anecdotal evidence. My source is Italy's National Health Authority. Please follow the rules from the first post in the thread.

Richfield · Post #617 » by **Richfield** » Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:59 am

lakers2020 wrote:A couple virus experts have gone on record that the real death rate is well below 1%,
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium.MAGAZINE-israeli-expert-trump-is-right-about-covid-19-who-is-wrong-1.8691031?v=CDBFACA5662E8174BA824BAD929EA12B
Dr. Dan Yamin puts the range between 0.3 and 0.45%

Watch on YouTube

Amesh Adalja says the upper bound is 0.6%, the minimum being a little over the seasonal flu at 0.1%. (skip to 8:25)

The theory is it is highly likely that a much greater number of people have it than are recorded as confirmed cases. Many people, (especially those below 70 and healthy) show no symptoms and will never be tested.

If you multiply 0.6% times just the US population that comes out to almost 2 million deaths.

Letting this take this course and not doing everything we can to fight it is tantamount to suicide or genocide (take your pick).

AdagioPace · Post #618 » by **AdagioPace** » Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:00 am

lakers2020 wrote:A couple virus experts have gone on record that the real death rate is well below 1%,
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium.MAGAZINE-israeli-expert-trump-is-right-about-covid-19-who-is-wrong-1.8691031?v=CDBFACA5662E8174BA824BAD929EA12B
Dr. Dan Yamin puts the range between 0.3 and 0.45%

Watch on YouTube

Amesh Adalja says the upper bound is 0.6%, the minimum being a little over the seasonal flu at 0.1%. (skip to 8:25)

The theory is it is highly likely that a much greater number of people have it than are recorded as confirmed cases. Many people, (especially those below 70 and healthy) show no symptoms and will never be tested.

I'm sure all these best case scenarios estimates (because we're talking about this...nothing more nothing less :roll:

based on the number of hypothetical submerged asymptomatics ) don't offer much to those doctors/nurses fighting for their sanity in Italy, Spain etc..and those thousand people that lost relatives. It only offers relief to irresponsible people trying to find excuses to go on normally with their lives.

Slacktard · Post #619 » by **Slacktard** » Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:10 am

lakers2020 wrote:
Wagonband wrote:
lakers2020 wrote:https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-18/99-of-those-who-died-from-virus-had-other-illness-italy-says

According to article roughly 1% of c19 deaths had 0 illnesses, 25% 1 illness, 25% 2 illnesses, and 49% three illnesses.

So despite the occasional anecdotal evidence, people overwhelmingly dying from this were sick to begin with.

A huge % of the population are "sick", having an illness that requires medication. You can add to that smokers and obese people, and suddenly the at risk group becomes much worse than old people.

I was just listening to a Joe Rogan podcast where he mentions Micheal Yo got it, and it was so bad where he was sure he was going to die... And he said he is a guy that's in shape and far from being a risk group.

So really guys, stay inside... The more people that are smart here, the shorter the impact of this will be

Your source is anecdotal evidence. My source is Italy's National Health Authority. Please follow the rules from the first post in the thread.

In your link I think posting this part would have shed more light on those statistic

More than 75% had high blood pressure, about 35% had diabetes and a third suffered from heart disease.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2019/01/31/heart-disease-nearly-half-u-s-adults-have-it-study-finds/2729955002/
http://www.measureuppressuredown.com/PR/highBPStats_pr.asp
https://www.diabetes.org/resources/statistics/statistics-about-diabetes

1/3 of American adults(77mil to 78mil) have High Blood pressure and 20% don't even know it.
34.2mil American adults(10.5% of the population) have diabetes and several million are undiagnosed
According to the study from the American Heart Association, 121.5 million Americans, or about 48.5 percent, dealt with heart or blood vessel disease as of 2016.

homecourtloss · Post #620 » by **homecourtloss** » Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:19 am

lakers2020 wrote:https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-18/99-of-those-who-died-from-virus-had-other-illness-italy-says

According to article roughly 1% of c19 deaths had 0 illnesses, 25% 1 illness, 25% 2 illnesses, and 49% three illnesses.

So despite the occasional anecdotal evidence, people overwhelmingly dying from this were sick to begin with.

ClipsFan98 gonna counter with a rando tweet about a 21 year MMA fighter/marathon runner with a degree in bio-astrophysics who’s not doing so well.