Luka AD trade thread Part II

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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#601 » by Camby_Bamby » Sun Feb 2, 2025 11:49 pm

KyRo23 wrote:
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Just like you can’t replace Luka. Imagine drafting one of the greatest players of all time and trading him before he hits his prime :lol:

One of these things is not like the other


You’re right - one of these guys has had to be the anchor of the defense and offense for 99% of his pro career. One guy weighs 270 pounds and is a human traffic cone on defense.


Okay, AD is better than Luka. You win


Hyperbolic little meltdown from you per usual.

Assuming one cares about both sides of this court, then yes - AD leaves a bigger impact on the game of basketball. That’s a LOT to assume from you though. Stat sheet can’t tell you everything. You’ll have to watch the games.
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#602 » by KyRo23 » Sun Feb 2, 2025 11:52 pm

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Camby_Bamby wrote:
You’re right - one of these guys has had to be the anchor of the defense and offense for 99% of his pro career. One guy weighs 270 pounds and is a human traffic cone on defense.


Okay, AD is better than Luka. You win


Hyperbolic little meltdown from you per usual.

Assuming one cares about both sides of this court, then yes - AD leaves a bigger impact on the game of basketball. That’s a LOT to assume from you though. Stat sheet can’t tell you everything. You’ll have to watch the games.


You’re just dishonest. I don’t even think you mean it, but here we’re are. You’re looking at the negatives of Luka and the positives of AD… you simply boil it down to AD is going to be the best offensive player and defensive player while Luka is fat and **** on D. Yeah solid argument man.

Lemme give it a go. AD is always injured and Luka lead his team to a finals appearance at age 25. He cannot be replaced now nor in the future by the Mavericks which is why everyone in the league is upset about this. It’s really just that simple
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#603 » by JujitsuFlip » Sun Feb 2, 2025 11:53 pm

G R E Y wrote:How is Luka going to pass physicals?
They can waive them.
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#604 » by Exp0sed » Sun Feb 2, 2025 11:53 pm

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Lebron playing the 4 is bad enough. Remember when Aaron Gordon scoring at will with Bron not even with 10 feet of him vs Nuggets.

Luka REALLY doesn’t give af about defense and his fans don’t care either. You essentially have two fanbases who doesn’t hold their favorite player accountable in the slightest. Who wins? The Slovenian boy wonder or Klutch Sports?


the Lakers don't care about this season, they weren't gonna win a 'chip anyway and they knew that

this is about the next decade, not about this season.the Lakers got offered a once in a life time deal they could never refuse (and shouldn't refuse), you say "hell yeah!" before Harrison regains his sanity and worry about the rest later


They definitely wont be competing now.

This is about LBJ and he signed off on this. Lakers are not making this move without his approval. Also, Luka can extend with whoever he wants. Supermax is off the table and LA can offer the same contract that any other team can. LBJ will be retired then and LA will be a team with no talent and maybe a HC still who's got no experience to navigate that situation.


I don't think that's true. yes, the supermax is off the table but they still retain his Bird rights with this trade which means they can offer more, no? regardless, Luka will sign a 1+1 deal with a player option where he can opt out after 10 years in the league and be eligible for that supermax again. he will do it knowing full well the Lakers are 100% committed and have no qualms whatsoever about giving him that payday

L.A is the right market for him, he's a Hollywood type with lots of flash and bravado. he's not going anywhere (sadly).
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#605 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Sun Feb 2, 2025 11:56 pm

KyRo23 wrote:
Camby_Bamby wrote:
KyRo23 wrote:
Just like you can’t replace Luka. Imagine drafting one of the greatest players of all time and trading him before he hits his prime :lol:

One of these things is not like the other


You’re right - one of these guys has had to be the anchor of the defense and offense for 99% of his pro career. One guy weighs 270 pounds and is a human traffic cone on defense.


Okay, AD is better than Luka. You win


And Lonnie is better than Bron

I win ?
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#606 » by Dan Z » Sun Feb 2, 2025 11:57 pm

The craziest thing to me is that the Mavs didn't shop Luka around the league and start a bidding war.

The Mavs are worth 4.7 billions. Imagine if they were another business (not sports) and they got rid of a guy who brings in 70% of the companies income, but didn't do their due diligence first...? That would get a long list of people fired.
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#607 » by Ballerhogger » Sun Feb 2, 2025 11:59 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:
G R E Y wrote:How is Luka going to pass physicals?
They can waive them.

Both of them had a muscle strain now both being traded hmm
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#608 » by Eyeamok » Mon Feb 3, 2025 12:06 am

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Camby_Bamby wrote:This HAS to be about the future and not right now. For the lakers, it’ll put ass in seats, but not Ws in the win column.


But what is it about for Dallas. They wanted to get ahead of confrontation!? Multi billion dollar business corporations are now afraid of confrontation?


Maybe they saw the storm a mile away and didn’t wanna lose leverage. Smart for them. I honestly think Luka peaked already


You are right absolutely I get that, get ahead of a problem. But then to trade him for pennies on the dollar. To me that is just crazy.
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#609 » by JujitsuFlip » Mon Feb 3, 2025 12:07 am

Michael Lucky wrote:Dont get why AD is so obsessed with playing the 4. It will make him a less productive player nor has he really improved his range.
Plus PJ has shown he is a better 4 than 3, so it makes no sense.
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#610 » by Big Dog Yank » Mon Feb 3, 2025 12:08 am

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Ballerhogger wrote:Luka has big chip on his shoulders I’m sure he wants to prove mavs and world wrong


Needs to lose weight first.


Yeah, he has the whole cookie on his shoulder.
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#611 » by JustBuzzin » Mon Feb 3, 2025 12:11 am

Dan Z wrote:The craziest thing to me is that the Mavs didn't shop Luka around the league and start a bidding war.

The Mavs are worth 4.7 billions. Imagine if they were another business (not sports) and they got rid of a guy who brings in 70% of the companies income, but didn't do their due diligence first...? That would get a long list of people fired.

There was no bidding war. This move was made behind the scenes. The NBA is a business and the ratings were down. How do you improve the ratings make a trade that nobody thought was possible and put him in the major market and probably the most popular franchise in the league in the Lakers.

Look at social media and the topics on this board. This move created headlines they literally just talked about this trade on World News. The NBA had to make a power move and Luka was that move.
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#612 » by JustBuzzin » Mon Feb 3, 2025 12:12 am

It's amazing the Lakers pull off these major moves and people act surprised every time. Like the Lakers haven't been doing this for decades.

It's a business folks and the Lakers have to get the best of the best. It makes the NBA a lot of money.
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#613 » by Jadoogar » Mon Feb 3, 2025 12:13 am

I apologize to Lakers fans that I've laughed at when they proposed delusion trades. They have the right to propose random trades because they seem to get what they want anyways

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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#614 » by Eyeamok » Mon Feb 3, 2025 12:14 am

With all this chaos has anyone checked on the health of Mark Cuban. :lol: He would have never made this trade!
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#615 » by Jazz9 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 12:15 am

Maybe blame the Mavs instead of the Lakers...
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#616 » by Synciere » Mon Feb 3, 2025 12:16 am

NyKnicks1714 wrote:I made a thread saying I understood why Dallas made this trade, and from a pure basketball standpoint I don't think it's that bad at all, especially if he's really out of shape. AD is a legitimate top-10 player and there have been more lopsided trades for sure. What makes it really bad is the PR nightmare they've created. Trading the homegrown superstar and face of the franchise is just such a bad look, even if the concerns about his conditioning in the long run are valid. Luka is better than Tatum and Edwards, but I don't think Boston or Minny pulls the trigger on that trade, for that very same reason. Let's say something weird happens and Denver decides to trade Jokic. He's by far and away the best player in the league, but I guarantee you OKC doesn't trade Shai for him.

The Kyrie/AD duo is going to have to come out of the gate hard to mitigate some of this blowback.


I’ve spent the past few pages and threads stating I think this trade is fine from a Dallas perspective but I agree wholeheartedly with you in that fair trade or not, I wouldn’t have created this PR nightmare willingly. I’d have waited until the last possible moment, which I think is probably still a year away or this summer. I’d have done something similar to the Zion contract with weight and body fat restrictions. Let him lose some of that luster by refusing to show up in shape before demanding 350 million. Leaked some footage of him getting hung on the rim trying to dunk in practice.. SOMETHING! To appease my fanbase.
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#617 » by Wolfgang630 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 12:17 am

Why tf is collusion allowed?
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#618 » by NyKnicks1714 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 12:21 am

Camby_Bamby wrote:
KyRo23 wrote:
Camby_Bamby wrote:
You’re right - one of these guys has had to be the anchor of the defense and offense for 99% of his pro career. One guy weighs 270 pounds and is a human traffic cone on defense.


Okay, AD is better than Luka. You win


Hyperbolic little meltdown from you per usual.

Assuming one cares about both sides of this court, then yes - AD leaves a bigger impact on the game of basketball. That’s a LOT to assume from you though. Stat sheet can’t tell you everything. You’ll have to watch the games.


Luka is better than AD. Stop. Offensive greatness and defensive greatness are not worth the same. AD can't consistently take over and win games down the stretch the way Luka can. That's special and rare. Peak Dwight was pretty damn good and efficient offensively while winning 3 DPOYs in a row, but no one in their right mind is going to take him over peak Curry, who was also a bad defender.
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#619 » by Milenkovic » Mon Feb 3, 2025 12:24 am

It will be really interesting to see what the Lakers do now for a big.

Nurkic is probably the only one they can get?
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#620 » by TeamTragic » Mon Feb 3, 2025 12:26 am

Milenkovic wrote:It will be really interesting to see what the Lakers do now for a big.

Nurkic is probably the only one they can get?


What do you mean? They can get anyone they want.

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