WCQF: P1 | (4) OKC Thunder vs Utah Jazz (5) | Utah wins 4-2

[lakerz12]

when was the last time a fouled was called in the last 5 sec of a playoff game?

There were over 20 seconds on the clock.

[ISayshowmee]

It may or may not be a foul but they call it 95% of the time.

If that were not the case, PG would never attempt to draw that foul.

Was it dumb for him to rely on the officials in that situation? Yes.

But what we ask from officials is consistency, and that's not consistency. When we see guys do worse "lean-ins" all the time and get the whistle.

Bam boom right on the money ---- "Consistency'.

Refs should call this kind of play against the player who initiated the contact....in this case it was PG13.

[lakerz12]

It may or may not be a foul but they call it 95% of the time.

If that were not the case, PG would never attempt to draw that foul.

Was it dumb for him to rely on the officials in that situation? Yes.

But what we ask from officials is consistency, and that's not consistency. When we see guys do worse "lean-ins" all the time and get the whistle.

Bam boom right on the money ---- "Consistency'.

Refs should call this kind of play against the player who initiated the contact....in this case it was PG13.

In many cases I agree with you. But do you ever see them call offensive fouls in these scenarios? How is this consistency:

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[BBallchallenged]

It may or may not be a foul but they call it 95% of the time.

If that were not the case, PG would never attempt to draw that foul.

Was it dumb for him to rely on the officials in that situation? Yes.

But what we ask from officials is consistency, and that's not consistency. When we see guys do worse "lean-ins" all the time and get the whistle.

Bam boom right on the money ---- "Consistency'.

Refs should call this kind of play against the player who initiated the contact....in this case it was PG13.

In many cases I agree with you. But do you ever see them call offensive fouls in these scenarios? How is this consistency:

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NBA officials need to quit calling that lateral shooting motion a foul on the defender. Nobody moves like that when making a jump shot and it's ridiculous.

[lakerz12]

Bam boom right on the money ---- "Consistency'.

Refs should call this kind of play against the player who initiated the contact....in this case it was PG13.

In many cases I agree with you. But do you ever see them call offensive fouls in these scenarios? How is this consistency:

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NBA officials need to quit calling that lateral shooting motion a foul on the defender. Nobody moves like that when making a jump shot and it's ridiculous.

Agreed. No one leans 4 feet forward either.

But both get called all the time. So how's PG supposed to know his time will be the exception?

Don't put the game in the hands of the refs with 20 seconds left I suppose.

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[KingCurry]

so,in the end, OKC's highly anticipated high ceiling was basically " when Westbrook gets hot...once in a while"

hot must be pretty relative considering Westbrook shot 40% or below 4 times this series and his best game was 43.6%

[Jkam31]

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NBA determined that PG13 invaded Gobert's space in order to create contact, not the other way around. Sounds about right.

This is absolutely bull **** love and harden do way worse and get FTs out of it. I’ve seen Love literally take 3 steps to the side to get contact on a defender who blew by him


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Not in the last year you haven't, try to keep up with the the rule changes.

Then why is it called every time a player does it


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[Cappy_Smurf]

I can't believe people are actually bitching about refs not calling a foul on Gobert after George initiated contact by jumping to the side.

In all honesty, that is supposed to be called an offensive foul.

The real travesty is that the league ever called that kind of play a foul in the first place. I'm not much of an Adam Silver fan, but he deserves credit for finally changing the rules that allowed that poor excuse for a basketball play. Any play where players are trying for a foul instead of actually playing basketball is a detriment to the game.

[anthony00]

Love you?

no foh

Dude what's foh stand for?






Both teams played hard. I like the win, I don't like the no calls all that much but that'll change going against Harden and Paul next series I reckon.

can't say it already got a strike

[Cappy_Smurf]

Seriously as a Jazz fan, the constant hate of Westbrook is getting tiring. The guy had another epic night and the other two so called stars were a no-show.

I agree with this. I saw Westbrook on ESPN talking about our fans being disrespectful and I hope the league takes steps to tone things down. For example, any asshat who puts a phone in somebody's face after they just lost a series should be banned.

It's one thing to heckle players, and I've done it myself, but there is no excuse for some of the hateful behavior from NBA fans. I'd like to see more fans getting ejected from games when they cross the line.

At one point in this series, the crowd was chanting westbrook sucks, and these dummies just never learn their lesson. They used to taunt Kobe like that, only to have Kobe heat up so that they'd have to watch their team lose. Westbrook wasn't able to do that this time, but it's a pretty good bet that he'll get another chance at some point.

Not to mention that Utah isn't exactly a preferred destination for free agents. Making enemies with players around the league is just plain dumb. Good win for the team, but our fans are somewhat of an embarrasment sometimes for their lack of anything resembling a brain.

[anthony00]

so,in the end, OKC's highly anticipated high ceiling was basically " when Westbrook gets hot...once in a while"

hot must be pretty relative considering Westbrook shot 40% or below 4 times this series and his best game was 43.6%

get off his nuts bandwagon

[Rauxcee]

At one point in this series, the crowd was chanting westbrook sucks, and these dummies just never learn their lesson. They used to taunt Kobe like that, only to have Kobe heat up so that they'd have to watch their team lose. Westbrook wasn't able to do that this time, but it's a pretty good bet that he'll get another chance at some point.

Not to mention that Utah isn't exactly a preferred destination for free agents. Making enemies with players around the league is just plain dumb. Good win for the team, but our fans are somewhat of an embarrasment sometimes for their lack of anything resembling a brain.

So? I have a hard time understanding why this matters. Is it any more disrespectful than chanting pushoff p? Refs you suck? *insert team name* sucks? Booing a specific opposing player? I mean its just saying something sucks. It's hardly disrespectful or classless. It's not even an insult really. It's equivelant of coming back at someone with "your mom!" It's tame and mild and all fans do it. There is no way any player would be insulted by that as its hardly an insult.

Totally agree about the phone in the face though. That's not cool.

[anthony00]

At one point in this series, the crowd was chanting westbrook sucks, and these dummies just never learn their lesson. They used to taunt Kobe like that, only to have Kobe heat up so that they'd have to watch their team lose. Westbrook wasn't able to do that this time, but it's a pretty good bet that he'll get another chance at some point.

Not to mention that Utah isn't exactly a preferred destination for free agents. Making enemies with players around the league is just plain dumb. Good win for the team, but our fans are somewhat of an embarrasment sometimes for their lack of anything resembling a brain.

So? I have a hard time understanding why this matters. Is it any more disrespectful than chanting pushoff p? Refs you suck? *insert team name* sucks? Booing a specific opposing player? I mean its just saying something sucks. It's hardly disrespectful or classless. It's not even an insult really. It's equivelant of coming back at someone with "your mom!" It's tame and mild and all fans do it. There is no way any player would be insulted by that as its hardly an insult.

Totally agree about the phone in the face though. That's not cool.

the fans were throwing things on the court

[og15]

In many cases I agree with you. But do you ever see them call offensive fouls in these scenarios? How is this consistency:

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NBA officials need to quit calling that lateral shooting motion a foul on the defender. Nobody moves like that when making a jump shot and it's ridiculous.

Agreed. No one leans 4 feet forward either.

But both get called all the time. So how's PG supposed to know his time will be the exception?

Don't put the game in the hands of the refs with 20 seconds left I suppose.

He didn't, but you answered the question, if you are playing the refs instead of playing to make the shoot in that scenario, you open yourself up to this happening. I have seen that play called an offensive foul at times, but there is no consistency. Still, that's not the type of foul draw you want to place in the refs hands to end a game.

[WestbrookGOATed]

Let's see if the kid can back it up. I hope so. That kind of comeback can demoralize a team. But I'm sure he, Quin, and Rudy will have the team ready.

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That was a pretty dumb thing to say. He better hope Russ and PG don't hear about that, which they probably already have. He sounds worried. I guess I would be too if I just blew a 25 point lead with the chance to close out a series. Kid thinks he's MJ already.

Yeah, he better hope Westbrook doesn't hear about it. He'll "shut that **** down". He guarantees it.

Enjoy getting swept by Houston.

[Stoked]

That was a pretty dumb thing to say. He better hope Russ and PG don't hear about that, which they probably already have. He sounds worried. I guess I would be too if I just blew a 25 point lead with the chance to close out a series. Kid thinks he's MJ already.

Yeah, he better hope Westbrook doesn't hear about it. He'll "shut that **** down". He guarantees it.

Enjoy getting swept by Houston.

Enjoy the after taste of getting dominated by a team you feel is about to get swept.

See y’all next year.

[WestbrookGOATed]

Yeah, he better hope Westbrook doesn't hear about it. He'll "shut that **** down". He guarantees it.

Enjoy getting swept by Houston.

Enjoy the after taste of getting dominated by a team you feel is about to get swept.

See y’all next year.

Since when is winning a series by 5 points in 6 games dominating? Hold your horses little buddy. We're about to see a replay of last years playoffs, Jazz over achieve in the 1st round then get swept by a far superior team in the 2nd round.

[Stoked]

Enjoy getting swept by Houston.

Enjoy the after taste of getting dominated by a team you feel is about to get swept.

See y’all next year.

Since when is winning a series by 5 points in 6 games dominating? Hold your horses little buddy. We're about to see a replay of last years playoffs, Jazz over achieve in the 1st round then get swept by a far superior team in the 2nd round.

Lol, whatever you have to tell yourself homes. Fact is the Jazz dismantled your team, ended their season and moved on. Ended the OKC3 before it began.

Have fun watching the Jazz, I will.

[Cappy_Smurf]

At one point in this series, the crowd was chanting westbrook sucks, and these dummies just never learn their lesson. They used to taunt Kobe like that, only to have Kobe heat up so that they'd have to watch their team lose. Westbrook wasn't able to do that this time, but it's a pretty good bet that he'll get another chance at some point.

Not to mention that Utah isn't exactly a preferred destination for free agents. Making enemies with players around the league is just plain dumb. Good win for the team, but our fans are somewhat of an embarrasment sometimes for their lack of anything resembling a brain.

So? I have a hard time understanding why this matters. Is it any more disrespectful than chanting pushoff p? Refs you suck? *insert team name* sucks? Booing a specific opposing player? I mean its just saying something sucks. It's hardly disrespectful or classless. It's not even an insult really. It's equivelant of coming back at someone with "your mom!" It's tame and mild and all fans do it. There is no way any player would be insulted by that as its hardly an insult.

Totally agree about the phone in the face though. That's not cool.

Westbrook is the reigning MVP. Regardless of what anyone thinks of his game, he pretty obviously doesn't suck, and it makes our crowd seem like a bunch or dumbasses who don't know their ass from a hole in the ground.

Other than that, I think I've already explained why I find it assinine. That kind of thing just motivates players on that level. Westbrook didn't have teammates around him to get things done, but I've seen my share of losses to the Lakers after our dumbass fans lit a fire under Kobe's ass, and it wasn't a 1 or 2 time thing. Just because it didn't bite us in the ass this time, doesn't mean it won't potentially cost the team a playoff series at some point. I'm all for some good natured heckling of players, but there's a point when fans become hateful, and I think that kind of behavior should be reserved for players who quit on their teammates and ran to the east because they knew they'd never be an all-star in the west again.

It's bush league, and all it does is add one more player to the list who would never consider signing in Utah as a free agent.