2016-17 MVP Discussion Thread

B-Ball Freak · Post #621 » by **B-Ball Freak** » Sun Nov 27, 2016 9:37 pm

James going for that 5th MVP, he keeps up with these stats and they get the best record in the league then it's probably him who wins it.

Tigersrule · Post #622 » by **Tigersrule** » Mon Nov 28, 2016 1:31 am

People really thought CP3 had a chance at winning MVP and he was ahead of James Lol...Hell to the NO

Impuniti · Post #623 » by **Impuniti** » Mon Nov 28, 2016 1:50 am

B-Ball Freak wrote:James going for that 5th MVP, he keeps up with these stats and they get the best record in the league then it's probably him who wins it.

He doesn't even need his team to have the best record for him to win. I'm getting more and more confident that he will end up MVP this year.

HotRocks34 · Post #624 » by **HotRocks34** » Mon Nov 28, 2016 4:33 am

Harden staying in the conversation as the Rockets win again.

Triples333 · Post #625 » by **Triples333** » Mon Nov 28, 2016 4:35 am

I'll break it down very simply fellas. MVPs by and large go to "special" seasons and/or storylines. A player like Harden has this in his favor. Lebron does not have this in his favor in any way.

treefi · Post #626 » by **treefi** » Mon Nov 28, 2016 4:54 am

If Russell averages 30/10/10 and ends up with the 10th best record in the league like they do right now, I think he is the MVP.

HeartBreakKid · Post #627 » by **HeartBreakKid** » Mon Nov 28, 2016 4:59 am

Triples333 wrote:I'll break it down very simply fellas. MVPs by and large go to "special" seasons and/or storylines. A player like Harden has this in his favor. Lebron does not have this in his favor in any way.

The MVP would be James further building up a resume to challenge Jordan as GOAT. If the Cavs totally dominate the RS and no one else puts together a good enough narrative, that would be more than enough for James to get the MVP. The media is not allergic to LBJ.

I don't think the Rockets will have a good enough record to get it by the time the season ends, but it is possible Harden gets it in a similar fashion to Nash.(I think the Rockets will have to be in the top 2 for him to have a serious chance)

Bertrob · Post #628 » by **Bertrob** » Mon Nov 28, 2016 5:22 am

What do you guys think Rondos MVP chances are? hes averaging 8/7/7 on a robust 37/27/63. I think his biggest roadblock is that the Bulls arent a top 2 seed, but I could see them get there by the end of the season. Am I giving him too much credit? I think he has a decent shot behind the frontrunners like Lebron or Durant or Curry

The High Cyde · Post #629 » by **The High Cyde** » Mon Nov 28, 2016 5:27 am

Oh Hae Young wrote:What do you guys think Rondos MVP chances are? hes averaging 8/7/7 on a robust 37/27/63. I think his biggest roadblock is that the Bulls arent a top 2 seed, but I could see them get there by the end of the season. Am I giving him too much credit? I think he has a decent shot behind the frontrunners like Lebron or Durant or Curry

...are you serious dude? :-?

Triples333 · Post #630 » by **Triples333** » Mon Nov 28, 2016 5:34 am

HeartBreakKid wrote:
Triples333 wrote:I'll break it down very simply fellas. MVPs by and large go to "special" seasons and/or storylines. A player like Harden has this in his favor. Lebron does not have this in his favor in any way.

The MVP would be James further building up a resume to challenge Jordan as GOAT. If the Cavs totally dominate the RS and no one else puts together a good enough narrative, that would be more than enough for James to get the MVP. The media is not allergic to LBJ.

I don't think the Rockets will have a good enough record to get it by the time the season ends, but it is possible Harden gets it in a similar fashion to Nash.(I think the Rockets will have to be in the top 2 for him to have a serious chance)

Your case for James was him challenging as GOAT? I don't follow. If the Cavs pull off an All Time Great season we can start an argument, but as is I doubt that happens.

HeartBreakKid · Post #631 » by **HeartBreakKid** » Mon Nov 28, 2016 5:36 am

Triples333 wrote:
HeartBreakKid wrote:
Triples333 wrote:I'll break it down very simply fellas. MVPs by and large go to "special" seasons and/or storylines. A player like Harden has this in his favor. Lebron does not have this in his favor in any way.

The MVP would be James further building up a resume to challenge Jordan as GOAT. If the Cavs totally dominate the RS and no one else puts together a good enough narrative, that would be more than enough for James to get the MVP. The media is not allergic to LBJ.

I don't think the Rockets will have a good enough record to get it by the time the season ends, but it is possible Harden gets it in a similar fashion to Nash.(I think the Rockets will have to be in the top 2 for him to have a serious chance)

Your case for James was him challenging as GOAT? I don't follow. If the Cavs pull off an All Time Great season we can start an argument, but as is I doubt that happens.

Well then what was Jordan's, Russell's and Kareem's narrative for winning their 5th mvps?

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Bertrob · Post #632 » by **Bertrob** » Mon Nov 28, 2016 5:36 am

The High Cyde wrote:...are you serious dude?

let me down easy buddy

miman15 · Post #633 » by **miman15** » Mon Nov 28, 2016 5:50 am

Triples333 wrote:I'll break it down very simply fellas. MVPs by and large go to "special" seasons and/or storylines. A player like Harden has this in his favor. Lebron does not have this in his favor in any way.

We get it. Your obsession of harden and hatred for lebron is undeniable.

While the rest of the world has Lebron as one of the top contender as of the moment. You keep reiterating that he has no shot.

People made a valid point that houston might not have the record to warrant Hardens mvp case, which is a good point.

Triples333 · Post #634 » by **Triples333** » Mon Nov 28, 2016 6:12 am

miman15 wrote:
Triples333 wrote:I'll break it down very simply fellas. MVPs by and large go to "special" seasons and/or storylines. A player like Harden has this in his favor. Lebron does not have this in his favor in any way.

We get it. Your obsession of harden and hatred for lebron is undeniable.

While the rest of the world has Lebron as one of the top contender as of the moment. You keep reiterating that he has no shot.

People made a valid point that houston might not have the record to warrant Hardens mvp case, which is a good point.

its fun to make up fake arguments to strengthen your point, eh? Unfortunately I live in reality. Come back at me if you want to join a valid argument and possibly use some quotes and or facts to back up your Stance.

Tigersrule · Post #635 » by **Tigersrule** » Mon Nov 28, 2016 8:04 am

Triples333 wrote:
miman15 wrote:
Triples333 wrote:I'll break it down very simply fellas. MVPs by and large go to "special" seasons and/or storylines. A player like Harden has this in his favor. Lebron does not have this in his favor in any way.

We get it. Your obsession of harden and hatred for lebron is undeniable.

While the rest of the world has Lebron as one of the top contender as of the moment. You keep reiterating that he has no shot.

People made a valid point that houston might not have the record to warrant Hardens mvp case, which is a good point.

its fun to make up fake arguments to strengthen your point, eh? Unfortunately I live in reality. Come back at me if you want to join a valid argument and possibly use some quotes and or facts to back up your Stance.

Lol you keep saying "fake arguement" bla bla bla everytime someone calls you out on how much you hate on Lebron...its unreal really. Do you have a life lol? Every single comment of you is discrediting Lebrons play this year so far, and how far your D is up James Hardens ass lmao..

miman15 · Post #636 » by **miman15** » Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:04 am

Tigersrule wrote:
Triples333 wrote:
miman15 wrote:
We get it. Your obsession of harden and hatred for lebron is undeniable.

While the rest of the world has Lebron as one of the top contender as of the moment. You keep reiterating that he has no shot.

People made a valid point that houston might not have the record to warrant Hardens mvp case, which is a good point.

its fun to make up fake arguments to strengthen your point, eh? Unfortunately I live in reality. Come back at me if you want to join a valid argument and possibly use some quotes and or facts to back up your Stance.

Lol you keep saying "fake arguement" bla bla bla everytime someone calls you out on how much you hate on Lebron...its unreal really. Do you have a life lol? Every single comment of you is discrediting Lebrons play this year so far, and how far your D is up James Hardens ass lmao..

You said it... His continuous discredit of Lebron is sickening...

I dont know if he knows the history of mvp, but stats dont matter if you dont put enough wins on the board. We have seen Lebron , Wade and kobe did that before. Even putting up better stats than harden.

ThePersianFreak · Post #637 » by **ThePersianFreak** » Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:24 am

If the Cavs continue to be dominant and LeBron keeps producing at this level, He'll get the MVP no matter what guys like Triples333 say. It's a dream senario for LeBron. He's reminded everybody that he's by far the best player in the world just a few months ago. He's playing at 70% and still putting up great numbers while being the best player on a top 2 team in the league. It's hard to argue against his case so far.

Benedict_Boozer · Post #638 » by **Benedict_Boozer** » Mon Nov 28, 2016 2:25 pm

Cavs have a tough slate of games coming up here with a bunch of road games. Should start to tell the story on whether it will be a coast into a top 1-2 seed in the east type season or a challenge for the best overall record type of season.

For James to get it I think he has to be within a few games of the top overall seed (Spurs, Warriors).

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MisterHibachi · Post #639 » by **MisterHibachi** » Mon Nov 28, 2016 2:28 pm

Triples333 wrote:I'll break it down very simply fellas. MVPs by and large go to "special" seasons and/or storylines. A player like Harden has this in his favor. Lebron does not have this in his favor in any way.

Are you trying to argue with a straight face that Harden has a narrative advantage over LeBron?

Gil · Post #640 » by **Gil** » Mon Nov 28, 2016 2:37 pm

Harden has been better than LeBron no question about it. Bron is playing with 2 All Stars & a well coached team.

Harden on the other hand is carrying a team that wasn't even projected to make the playoffs by many to a Top 4 seed in the West. He's doing this with role players, Wizards/Pelicans rejects & a coach that's largely derided by most NBA fans/media.